Cylinder Question

whitelightrider

Hi folks,

I currently have a 300 litre solar cylinder in my house. Only problem is we dont have solar panels. When we run out of oil (twice so far) we've had to put on the immersion, and that takes up to 4 hours to heat the tank.

Im thinking of taking it out for a standard cylinder with the immersion and that would heat the cylinder in about 30 minutes - well enough for a shower anyway.

How much would it cost to do this?

Davy

Seems like a backwards step to me... are you getting tubes/panels in the near future? Have you considered an electric shower?

Joey the lips

You can also temp have a plumber run the coils together meaning the cylinder will heat twice as fast....

The cost of this will be far less than your first consideration...


because it is solar and takes so long to heat i am guessing its a 300 ltr. I would not get rid of this. In the future you can connect a 3 bar pump to it and have wonderful showers....

whitelightrider

Davy wrote: »

Seems like a backwards step to me... are you getting tubes/panels in the near future? Have you considered an electric shower?

Hi Davy, lets not even go there I was told by an all knowing friend that we didnt need an electric shower, even though my wife said to put one in. We didnt, and Im hearing about it now!!!
Have no plans to put tubes or panels in yet as we just dont have the cash.

whitelightrider

Joey the lips wrote: »

You can also temp have a plumber run the coils together meaning the cylinder will heat twice as fast....

The cost of this will be far less than your first consideration...


because it is solar and takes so long to heat i am guessing its a 300 ltr. I would not get rid of this. In the future you can connect a 3 bar pump to it and have wonderful showers....

Hi Joey, what dya mean by running the coils together? Is this something that can be done now?

Yep its a 300 ltr. We have a pump running off it for pressure into the house and it is damn nice.

Sparkpea

he means to tee off the flow and return from the oil fired going into one coil to make it go into the coil where the solar pipes would go, it means the oil fired is heating 2 coils rather than one to heat it faster.

though your original post was if you ran out of oil... so that wouldn't help you in that instance, your cheapest bet is just not to run out of oil tbh

I don't see any point at all in changing the cylinder

whitelightrider

Sparkpea wrote: »

he means to tee off the flow and return from the oil fired going into one coil to make it go into the coil where the solar pipes would go, it means the oil fired is heating 2 coils rather than one to heat it faster.

though your original post was if you ran out of oil... so that wouldn't help you in that instance, your cheapest bet is just not to run out of oil tbh

I don't see any point at all in changing the cylinder

Oh right. Ill have to get one of those tank monitors to make sure this doesnt happen again or Ill end up divorced.
Its just annoying that the immersion cant heat the cylinder fast enough.

Sparkpea

whitelightrider wrote: »

Oh right. Ill have to get one of those tank monitors to make sure this doesnt happen again or Ill end up divorced.
Its just annoying that the immersion cant heat the cylinder fast enough.

if your immersion is internal (which it sounds like) you could get a willis type (external) which will heat water for a shower in 30mins or so..

read this thread from last week

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056073510

whitelightrider

Sparkpea wrote: »

if your immersion is internal (which it sounds like) you could get a willis type (external) which will heat water for a shower in 30mins or so..

read this thread from last week

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056073510

That sounds like what I need!! Are they expensive? And would it work in my setup? If I posted pics would you be able to tell?

Sparkpea

if you posted pics it would help

£40 would cover the cost of the willis immersion
installing it and altering pipework could be about £100-200 depending on whether you have a spare boss for the immersion or if you need an essex flange.

I reackon theres prob a boss with a drain in it, if the tank was drained down they could use it and tee it off for a drain valve.

whitelightrider

Sparkpea wrote: »

if you posted pics it would help

£40 would cover the cost of the willis immersion
installing it and altering pipework could be about £100-200 depending on whether you have a spare boss for the immersion or if you need an essex flange.

I reackon theres prob a boss with a drain in it, if the tank was drained down they could use it and tee it off for a drain valve.

Here you go. Photos from a while back. The tanks are in the garage.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055541476&highlight=water&page=3

Sparkpea

I'm not that familiar with that cylinder and the tappings so I'll leave someone else to answer the question.

Looking at your grundfos pump there.. how old is it roughly and where did you get it? Is it a jetpaq (or something similar)? I'm looking for a replacement for a b&b I do work for but so far I've been told they aren't made anymore..

whitelightrider

Sparkpea wrote: »

I'm not that familiar with that cylinder and the tappings so I'll leave someone else to answer the question.

Looking at your grundfos pump there.. how old is it roughly and where did you get it? Is it a jetpaq (or something similar)? I'm looking for a replacement for a b&b I do work for but so far I've been told they aren't made anymore..

No bother.
Leave it with me on the grundfos and Ill check with the plumber this evening and get back to you.