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Extravagance in HSE Ambulance Service ?

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  • 31-10-2010 9:01pm
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    From todays Independent......... something seems very wrong here ......



    Senior HSE officers get €33,000 cars for work

    Ambulance managers given new Vehicles to work nine-to-five hours


    THE HSE has been accused of "incredible extravagance" after it emerged that dozens of senior ambulance managers were bought company cars to drive to and from work.
    The revelation comes amid worsening ambulance response times, according to official HSE reports -- and news that 200 new recruits hired within the past 18 months are not being deployed properly due to budget restrictions, with many being used for office administrative work.
    Senior ambulance officers across the country have been provided with State-funded cars -- Hyundai Sante Fes and Ford Mondeos, which cost between €25,000 and €33,000 brand new -- but such staff do not work out of hours, except in "very exceptional circumstances".
    Officers are required to use the vehicles as part of their contract of employment -- but it has emerged that this is only during normal office hours.
    The majority work Monday to Friday, nine to five, depending on the region they are in -- but most, if not all, do not work at night or at weekends because there is "no provision for an on-call system".
    It has also emerged that many of the cars are fitted with satellite navigation equipment, while many of the country's frontline ambulances are making do with "out-dated ordinance survey maps".
    According to an official HSE report, ambulance response times fell in the last six months of 2009, where just 24 per cent of call-outs were responded to within the standard of eight minutes.
    This compared with 29 per cent the previous July. Irish response times compare poorly to the UK, where 75 per cent are responded to within eight minutes.
    Fine Gael's spokesman on waste in the public sector, Brian Hayes, said this represents an "incredible profligacy we can no longer afford".
    Mr Hayes said: "Given that 200 new recruits were brought in and are not being used properly and the standard of service to the public is worsening, such stories of excess are incredible. We can no longer afford such extravagance."
    Responding to our queries, a HSE spokeswoman said the cars are provided as part of the officers' terms of contract. She said that it would be "unacceptable" for them to use their own cars for their work.
    "Officers are required to be available to respond to serious and untoward incidents during duty hours.
    "It would be unacceptable to the HSE and the gardai for officers to do so in their personally owned vehicles," the spokeswoman added.
    "Various measures are in place around the country regarding out-of-hours arrangements. Officers respond, on a goodwill basis, out of hours where no arrangements exist," she continued.
    According to the spokeswoman, the purchase of vehicles is based on an assessment of need, available budget, planned use (for example, to move trailers or off-road capability or to carry equipment) and are purchased in compliance with HSE and public procurement policy.
    The HSE said it makes significant annual savings by not paying travel expenses for officers using personally owned cars and all vehicles purchased are basic models only, similar to the gardai and other emergency service vehicles.
    - DANIEL McCONNELL Chief Reporter
    Sunday Independent


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    delancey42 wrote: »
    She said that it would be "unacceptable" for them to use their own cars for their work.

    "Officers are required to be available to respond to serious and untoward incidents during duty hours.

    "It would be unacceptable to the HSE and the gardai for officers to do so in their personally owned vehicles," the spokeswoman added.

    Still waiting for delivery of mine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Tango Alpha 51


    First of all paper never refused ink & journos will write anything to sell papers. In saying that, some officers do respond after hours. It is ad hoc & there should be a directive from up high in relation to this. Bear in mind that they were getting paid nearly 2 euro a mile in expenses so over the course of the lifetime of these vehicles savings will be made


  • Registered Users Posts: 923 ✭✭✭coolmoose


    Some merit to what it says, but officers do respond in any area I've worked in...Indo is a desperate rag these days anyway!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭dfbemt


    Absolute crap story.... and I wouldn't be the greatest lover of the EHB.

    These officers need these cars as they cannot respond in their own. If they do not provide an on call service and bring them home well that is another story but if they are on call, then they are needed.

    Chief, ACFO's and 3rd's can use their own cars in DFB and I would know of some who have been stopped by AGS before. Mileage is a big issue of course.

    Indo really is becomming an anti Public Sector rag these days. Funny to see some of the lads in the control room refusing to read it because of bad press in the past. Thank God for the Irish Times so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Rialtas


    dfbemt wrote: »
    Absolute crap story.... and I wouldn't be the greatest lover of the EHB.

    These officers need these cars as they cannot respond in their own. If they do not provide an on call service and bring them home well that is another story but if they are on call, then they are needed.

    That's fair enough, but if they are not expected to respond to calls out of hours as per a contract stipulation, why are the vehicles not pooled at base and used by other NAS personnel at night / weekends? I mean, Gardai of similar rank don't get personal vehicles and they would be expected to respond to and manage a lot of the same incidents - RTA's etc. A lot of the US forces use marked up supervisor vehicles for example.

    I agree that the Indo is a pure rag, but it does seem like more of the usual grade inflation and associated gold plating that goes on in the higher echelons of the HSE / civil service.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭dfbemt


    Rialtas wrote: »
    That's fair enough, but if they are not expected to respond to calls out of hours as per a contract stipulation, why are the vehicles not pooled at base and used by other NAS personnel at night / weekends? I mean, Gardai of similar rank don't get personal vehicles and they would be expected to respond to and manage a lot of the same incidents - RTA's etc. A lot of the US forces use marked up supervisor vehicles for example.

    The gardai of similar rank do not want personal vehicles as they get mileage and car allowances. the same applies to Senior Fire Officers who have lights and sirens covertly installed in their cars to allow them respond to calls. Every mile driven is worth money and there is an additional allowance available for the lights and radio.

    The Ambulance Officers do not get this, none of it. They are supplied with a vehicle instead.

    Lets say these Hyundais cost €40k. Kept for 10 years, that is €4k per year. Average mileage and other allowances is greater than €4k.

    Using this system saves the HSE money. Again, this is the Indo stirring things up with a piece of unresearched tabloid journalism.

    Things are getting bad when I'm supporting the EHB!!!!! But the truth has to be known.


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