Bird id

marlin vs

Can anyone id this bird as it was shot thinking in flight it was a wigeon.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7173/20101031duck0019medium.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6958/20101031duck0020medium.jpg

It's second from the left in the next picture, the bird on it's lft is a pinkfoot goose, on it's right is a duck mallard, then a pair of teal and a snipe.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9748/20101031duck0027medium.jpg

Warning: the links are images of birds that have been shot

cuddlycavies

Pochard?

Feargal as Luimneach

A tricky one: possibly a juvenile wigeon. You can see some chestnut markings on flank. Short stubby bill gray. Dark feet. Undertail coverts have dark markings
Any chance of a photo of an extended wing?

Where did you shoot the Pink-footed goose?

marlin vs

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

A tricky one: possibly a juvenile wigeon. You can see some chestnut markings on flank. Short stubby bill gray. Dark feet. Undertail coverts have dark markings
Any chance of a photo of an extended wing?

Where did you shoot the Pink-footed goose?

Definatly not a wigeon, I was thinking myself that it might be a gadwall,but i'm not sure.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5938/20101031duck0035medium.jpg

The underside.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8359/20101031duck0036medium.jpg

And the rump.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6685/20101031duck0038medium.jpg

Warning: the links are images of birds that have been shot

Feargal as Luimneach

marlin vs wrote: »

Definatly not a wigeon, I was thinking myself that it might be a gadwall,but i'm not sure.

Some wigeon especially juvenile can have hardly any chestnut markings on flank.
Gadwall has yellow feet, this bird has dark feet.

On wing pattern you can see a narrow whitish patch on inner secondaries. That looks like a female/juvenile wigeon wing pattern. A young Gadwall can have a similar pattern but that legs do not fit.

The tail is pointed, which wigeons have. A female/ecilpse/juvenile pintail also have a pointed tail, but they have a broad white trailing edge on wings and have a long bill (lacking in this bird)

Rainbowsend

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Please, I have no issue with this. There are very knowledgeable folk here with regard to bird ID.
Stay on topic of OP, that is the ID of the bird

Report if you have issue.

marlin vs

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

A tricky one: possibly a juvenile wigeon. You can see some chestnut markings on flank. Short stubby bill gray. Dark feet. Undertail coverts have dark markings
Any chance of a photo of an extended wing?

Where did you shoot the Pink-footed goose?

The goose was shot in Perth & Kinnross Scotland last week and was shot legally.

Feargal as Luimneach

A similar looking wigeon:

Marlin, what specific id features lead you to think it's not a wigeon?

marlin vs

It seemed darker than normal,I got an answer back from birdwatch and it is indeed a juvinile wigeon, in flight although it was dusk I was sure it was a flock of wigeon, but when the dog brought it back I was having doubts, since I wasn't sure I had to find out.

Feargal as Luimneach

Your bird was tricky, the plumage was faded.

marlin vs

I'm just after getting another answer from another birdwatching site that think's it could be a juvinile female Widgeon or Pintail, so nothing really definate.

Feargal as Luimneach

Immature female pintail: note broad white trailing edge to wing.






Immature female american wigeon (american and eurasian wing pattern virtually identical). Note lack of broad white trailing edge and narrow white patch on inner secondaries. This wing is most similar to your bird.

Also note stubby bill on your bird while pintail has narrow long bill. Both species have the pointed tail.

marlin vs

Fergal i'm going with you and birdwatch, thank's.