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(Independent.ie) - Crisis could see us become a colony again

  • 30-10-2010 11:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    (From Independent.ie)

    If Ireland does not help herself out of this economic crisis she is doomed to revert to being a colony after, if we are lucky, a century of independence.

    The country is currently locked into a vicious cycle: ridden with debt; deprived of political autonomy; and with an ever-increasing rate of emigration of the best of the talented youth, leaving her poorer every year.

    If the Irish people are not able to prevent this from happening with their own efforts, there will be no other option but to become a protectorate of the larger European powers (UK), or perhaps even, as has been suggested in this paper recently, the United States.

    There is precedent for this.

    During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Newfoundland, a self-governing British colony, found itself so inept at handling an economic crisis that the people of the colony surrendered all their political autonomy to the mother country.

    It is absolutely critical that the Irish people demand of their government that spending cuts on excessive salaries, pensions and bonuses are implemented immediately, as well as taxes raised from those who can afford it. It is criminal to reduce spending on schools and hospitals to maintain a high standard of living for a few elites in the public sector when the whole country must tighten its belt.

    It is good that Ireland is not being wracked by rioting based on anger against the Government like France is, but an attitude of defeatism, as seems to have permeated the government, is just as bad, if not worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    RobitTV, TV3 News, Ballina.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Newfoundland was still in the commonwealth we are not so frankly GTFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    It is absolutely critical that the Irish people demand of their government that spending cuts on excessive salaries, pensions and bonuses are implemented immediately

    I think there are other things that need demanding first :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    From: The Rag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    tl;dr? If so flyton5 can help.

    Translation of article: Today was a slow news day and they needed to fill column space so they made up a load of ****e.

    The Indo. Where everyday is April 1st.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    New foundland had a lot of Irish people. oh ****.. we;re not very good at running countries...:eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Newfoundland had a lot of Irish people. oh ****.. we;re not very good at running countries...:eek::eek:

    Newfies have Irish accents!


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why the fuck would the UK want us back!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭thenutflush


    Look OP, as individuals we simply can't change how the country or the world is run.
    Okay, theoretically we could, but I'm not prepared to waste my precious life trying to change the world.

    What will happen will happen, and if anybody out there wants to waste their only life getting riled up by corrupt politicians or giving out about how the rich aren't taxed enough or how the dole is too much or trying to precisely work out their own personal economic doctrine of choice, well fine by me.

    I can't help but pity the poor souls obsessed with the government, the budget, pointless debate about stuff that in reality we have no influence over.

    Even if we did go back to being a colony of Britain, which we wont by the way, why not just get on with it when it happens? Same as the IMF.

    Budget cuts and tax rises reduce our incomes. We wont starve or die from lack of medical care. So who gives a shít. When your lying on your deathbed, you'll be sorry you wasted your time even caring about politics or any of that shít.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,764 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Become a colony of another superpower, so. Any objections to China?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Become a colony of another superpower, so. Any objections to China?

    Maybe Roman Abramovich will have us.

    We could become Roman citizens.

    /gets coat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Does this mean we can get a colonoscopy to get rid of all the shite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    Ireland is already a de facto colony of Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Maybe Roman Abramovich will have us.

    We could become Roman citizens.

    /gets coat.
    Don't let the door smack your arse on the way out.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,764 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Maybe Roman Abramovich will have us.

    We could become Roman citizens.

    /gets coat.

    He's only got 11 billion. Still 4 billion short. We need to aim higher.

    At least we wouldn't be Roman Catholics any more.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Newfies have Irish accents!

    And eat fish heads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    angela merkel=Titler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    From the independent is it?
    Blow it out the back end of your bolloc*s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭weiland79


    RobitTV wrote: »
    (From Independent.ie)

    If Ireland does not help herself out of this economic crisis she is doomed to revert to being a colony after, if we are lucky, a century of independence.

    The country is currently locked into a vicious cycle: ridden with debt; deprived of political autonomy; and with an ever-increasing rate of emigration of the best of the talented youth, leaving her poorer every year.

    If the Irish people are not able to prevent this from happening with their own efforts, there will be no other option but to become a protectorate of the larger European powers (UK), or perhaps even, as has been suggested in this paper recently, the United States.

    There is precedent for this.

    During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Newfoundland, a self-governing British colony, found itself so inept at handling an economic crisis that the people of the colony surrendered all their political autonomy to the mother country.

    It is absolutely critical that the Irish people demand of their government that spending cuts on excessive salaries, pensions and bonuses are implemented immediately, as well as taxes raised from those who can afford it. It is criminal to reduce spending on schools and hospitals to maintain a high standard of living for a few elites in the public sector when the whole country must tighten its belt.

    It is good that Ireland is not being wracked by rioting based on anger against the Government like France is, but an attitude of defeatism, as seems to have permeated the government, is just as bad, if not worse.

    Hey do you not think people have enough to worry about at the moment without spouting this kind of boll1x.
    Give it a rest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Can someone ban the OP? Getting tired of his shitty anti-everything threads.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    RobitTV wrote: »
    (From Independent.ie)

    If Ireland does not help herself out of this economic crisis she is doomed to revert to being a colony after, if we are lucky, a century of independence.

    The country is currently locked into a vicious cycle: ridden with debt; deprived of political autonomy; and with an ever-increasing rate of emigration of the best of the talented youth, leaving her poorer every year.

    If the Irish people are not able to prevent this from happening with their own efforts, there will be no other option but to become a protectorate of the larger European powers (UK), or perhaps even, as has been suggested in this paper recently, the United States.

    There is precedent for this.

    During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Newfoundland, a self-governing British colony, found itself so inept at handling an economic crisis that the people of the colony surrendered all their political autonomy to the mother country.

    It is absolutely critical that the Irish people demand of their government that spending cuts on excessive salaries, pensions and bonuses are implemented immediately, as well as taxes raised from those who can afford it. It is criminal to reduce spending on schools and hospitals to maintain a high standard of living for a few elites in the public sector when the whole country must tighten its belt.

    It is good that Ireland is not being wracked by rioting based on anger against the Government like France is, but an attitude of defeatism, as seems to have permeated the government, is just as bad, if not worse.

    1) Is it possible for you to give a precise url when you post information allegedly from another site?

    2) Independent Newspapers is a collection of awful, awful, dreadfully trashy rags.

    3) If Ireland were to become a British colony again, we can be sure that the loudest cheers would be coming from this particular newspaper group, with Harris, Dudley Edwards and Arnold being particularly enthusiastic about impressing their boss, Sir AJF O Reilly.

    It really, really is trash, bought by trash.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Sure we're already a province of Poland...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    *joins the real ira*

    LULZ!


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gyalist wrote: »
    Ireland is already a de facto colony of Germany.
    Only until the inevitable currency collapse, then we'll be free!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Nala Silly Coroner


    UK is already in trouble of its own ,why would it want us anyway

    All this scaremongering is a load of BS, did they spout this crap in the 80s too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    RobitTV wrote: »
    (From Independent.ie)

    If Ireland does not help herself out

    Ireland has a vagina?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    I'm now getting the bizarre image of our bemused German overlords staring at NAMA wondering how stupid some people actually are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Ireland has a vagina?

    It's somewhere near the **** hole we call Dail Eireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Independent is becoming more of a rag by thee day.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    OisinT wrote: »
    Independent is becoming more of a rag by thee day.

    it was ever reputable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Chorizo


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Ireland has a vagina?

    The Sally gap. Its slippery when wet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    The English would prob tell us to GFYS jees they have been trying to get out of NI only for the weird guys with the bowler hats stopping them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    Ich begrüße unsere Deutsch Oberherren


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    This same paper had an article titled "How you could have been a millionaire 4 years ago" or somesuch.

    And all it involved was selling your house (worth €760,000 in 2006) in the average part of Dublin, Deansgrange(!) and then investing it in Apple, precious metals among others while you live in the street (presumably) for those four years til you a millionaire!

    ****, why did they not just print last week's lotto numbers and write an artilce on that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    When you voted yes to lisbon a second time we lost what independence we had!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    maxxie wrote: »
    When you voted yes to lisbon a second time we lost what independence we had!

    ObviousTroll.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    maxxie wrote: »
    When you voted yes to lisbon a second time we lost what independence we had!

    I rather Merkel or Sarkozy than Cowen or FF to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    The Agogo wrote: »
    I rather Merkel or Sarkozy than Cowen or FF to be honest!

    Especially if it came with German beer prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    it was ever reputable?
    My point is that it's getting worse. Which is unreal lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    What the country needs is a good dictator. Someone to just get things done quickly.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    ValJester wrote: »
    ObviousTroll.jpg

    your aulone :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    OisinT wrote: »
    My point is that it's getting worse. Which is unreal lol

    did you really laugh out loud?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Yes, when I read that article I chuckled.

    Are you enjoying this trolling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    notice how the article doesnt blame Fianna Fail at all, the only solution according to the article is cutting wages and pensions in the PS.

    Typical BS from the FF/indo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    skelliser wrote: »
    notice how the article doesnt blame Fianna Fail at all, the only solution according to the article is cutting wages and pensions in the PS.

    Typical BS from the FF/indo
    Typical BS from the PS?


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