Fathers rent allowance entitlements ??

kirstyor123

Hi all
Am posting this question on behalf of a friend of mine

He is working part time and down as casual worker with the welfare.
He has a baby girl and a baby on the way and wants to know if he is entitled to rent allowance so he can take his kids overnight

Any help appreciated

analbeads

where is he living at the moment?
is he renting?
has he being renting for more than 6 months?
is he on the list for local authority housing?
how many nights a month will he be having the children overnights? dose he have an access order to back him up if he needs to prove it?

kirstyor123

analbeads wrote: »

where is he living at the moment?
is he renting?
has he being renting for more than 6 months?
is he on the list for local authority housing?
how many nights a month will he be having the children overnights? dose he have an access order to back him up if he needs to prove it?

He is renting with his friend at the moment and will be staying there till the least is up next june. He doesnt get to take the first baby overnight because theres no room so thats why when lease is up he wants his own place so he can take the kiddies overnight.
He isnt on housing list yet but he is going on it

djrlittleton

just saying unemployed dad here also, i moved back in to my old mans house for these reasons, i was renting paying mait and going to collage daughter every 2nd weekend and, leaving on beans on toast by the times the bills were paid not easy situation at all,

in my experience i got the same as a single fella, but i am genuinely involved in my daughters life and do my best for her. i do think the government and housing authoritys are very weary of fellas espically when in irish society the mother seams to have all the rights! now this week i had my daughter the entire week while i was off from the books its great

if you can give a pm with the outcome of this i just want to say my current situation is not ideal but cert it is better from where i was

regards

djr

analbeads

its very hard to say.
he should apply for local authority housing now as some people have had to wait months to be assesed. it is harder for men to get rent allowance for a property with 2/3 bedrooms than it is to get rent allowance for a single room mainly because the child is living with the mother (usually) and he needs to prove that he is taking the child overnights and needs a bigger property to do so.
also if he is taking the child for only one night a week he might be rejected, some welfare officers wouldnt justify giving double maybe more rent allowance to rent a whole house for the sake of one overnight a week.
maybe himself and the childs mother could put together a written contract over access times/ overnights/ maintenance to prove that he is infact involved in the childs life. welfare officers have men (and women) not involved in their kids lives trying to scam/claim rent allowance for these same reasons everyday so they need to be tough

is your friend still in a relationship with his childs mother?

meathroyal

Hi all ive just been reading some of the messages and there is some great advice there ,i know its difficult but the child is the one that will suffer by all these this! anybody know by how much they will cut the allowance ??

10green bottles

ts very hard to say.
he should apply for local authority housing now as some people have had to wait months to be assesed. it is harder for men to get rent allowance for a property with 2/3 bedrooms than it is to get rent allowance for a single room mainly because the child is living with the mother (usually) and he needs to prove that he is taking the child overnights and needs a bigger property to do so.
also if he is taking the child for only one night a week he might be rejected, some welfare officers wouldnt justify giving double maybe more rent allowance to rent a whole house for the sake of one overnight a week.
maybe himself and the childs mother could put together a written contract over access times/ overnights/ maintenance to prove that he is infact involved in the childs life. welfare officers have men (and women) not involved in their kids lives trying to scam/claim rent allowance for these same reasons everyday so they need to be tough

That advice is totaly mis leading.Forget any advice you are being given here (bar mine of course:pac:)

Contact citizens advice in the 1st instance
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories

Im on jobseekers allowance,live in rented accom in Dundalk.

Rent per week =€140

Rent allowance per week = €84

Diffrence =€56

And worth every penney(single dad,kids stay over)

analbeads

10green bottles wrote: »

That advice is totaly mis leading.Forget any advice you are being given here (bar mine of course:pac:)

Contact citizens advice in the 1st instance
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories

Im on jobseekers allowance,live in rented accom in Dundalk.

Rent per week =€140

Rent allowance per week = €84

Diffrence =€56

And worth every penney(single dad,kids stay over)

which part of my post was mis leading?
i know men that heve tried to get full rent allowance for a 2bed apartment (same as the childs mother did) and had to prove that they did indeed have a child and were actually taking the child for a number of nights a month while the childs mother was aproved straight away.

your situation is different as you are not working while ops friend works part time but cant aford to rent a larger place (without sharing with other renters) so he can have his kids over night.

shizzel

I have been trying to get rent allowance for myself and my kids for the past 2 years.. I have joint custody and was refused by the welfare on the basis that the kids mother is already in social housing. so I took it to the Minister for social protection and recieved a statement from their office stating that i should not be precluded from recieving benifits just because the kids mother is. so then when I appealed again with this statement they said that i was living too near the kids (3 miles) and that the court order granting me joint costudy gave no stipilation as to having accommodation.. this just goes to show that they will make up any excuse and move the goalposts just to not give it if they dont like the cut of your jib... it is important to note that i Know people im my situation without joint costudy that are getting rent allowance for their kids .. this country is not about wheather you are entitled to anything its about who you know.