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Job Interview 6 months pregnant

  • 28-10-2010 7:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭


    Hi all

    I got a job interview and im so excited about it as im sick of being unemployed frown.gif
    The only thing is im six months pregnant rolleyes.gif

    I know i dont have to tell them in the interview but i know that if i do get the job i will have to tell them and i dont want them to be totally pissed when they find out the person they just hired for full time work is about to have a baby in 3 months!!!!!!!!!
    I know they cant fire me over it as it is illegal but i cant help feeling like im tricking them into giving me a job.

    Has anyone else ever been in the exact same position where they were pregnant and got the job but was due a baby in a few months ??


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Tilt Gone


    Personally i thnik it's bull**** that you DONT have to inform your employer. Surely you can understand that no employer wants to take someone on just for them to be out in £ months for 14 weeks or whatever it is.

    Dont really have anything of use to add. Hope you get the job but would be pretty raging if I was your employer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭decies


    Yes you should tell your potential employer , although as it's an interview your not guaranteed to get the job pregnant or not anyway. I wish you well and hope you get the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    Yes i can totally understand that the employer will be pissed but i didnt want to ruin my chances i am desperate for a job :(

    I went for my interview today and didnt tell the interviewer it was just a short quick interview.

    Now i dont know what to do if i get a offered the job....

    Do i not take it because im pregnant or do i take it and tell him straight away ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭mr.interested


    I think there's always room for negotiation if you like the job--perhaps you can agree to start immediately, and in three months take an unpaid leave for two or three months?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭leedsfan88


    if i was the employer you wouldn't get the job, because of the time you'll miss and having to replace you after 3 months


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    Well lets say you are the employer and offer me the job not knowing im pregnant ?

    What would you do then when i told you eh ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    this is an ethical thing, everyone needs money, but a woman who is pregnant and lets face it, 6 months is pretty well into the lifecycle.

    i dont think you should be looking for work at all, tbh. you have a baby to tend to ffs. If you were pregnant and had an accident or a slip at work, god forbid

    not to menton the days off work and stuff. I doubt you would get very far if you got the job and told them you were pregnant, they might reimburse you something but i dont think they would take you on full time for reasons mentioned before


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    After looking at some of the comments i suppose i should wait till baby arrives before going back to work, at least that way i could have a fresh start with the employer and not have to drop that bombshell on them..

    Thanks everyone for there opinions on this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    After looking at some of the comments i suppose i should wait till baby arrives before going back to work, at least that way i could have a fresh start with the employer and not have to drop that bombshell on them..

    Thanks everyone for there opinions on this

    Im surprised it took you so long to come to that decision tbh.

    you need rest and so forth, not a bleedin job..!

    hope things work out
    good luck!

    *tell them you are preggers and dont think it is right to go ahead with it, they will think of you for future roles no doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    op glad to hear you're not going ahead with the interview.
    Personally if I were an employer I'd sooner go to jail than pay someone for maternity when they only started a month or 2 before.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    op glad to hear you're not going ahead with the interview.
    Personally if I were an employer I'd sooner go to jail than pay someone for maternity when they only started a month or 2 before.

    I actually did go ahead with the interview:D
    It went pretty well actually lol

    No call back yet but if i do i will tell them and if he wants to offer the job to somebody else thats fine :) Wouldnt say i will though, my bump was out there for him to see lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    Ooops, misread your post . just skimmed it :L


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    op glad to hear you're not going ahead with the interview.
    Personally if I were an employer I'd sooner go to jail than pay someone for maternity when they only started a month or 2 before.

    You don't have to pay any maternity pay as an employer (yet). You have to allow the time off and have the job, or an equivalent one, waiting upon their return. It could still be a massive pain in the arse for a smaller business though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Smoggy


    I actually did go ahead with the interview:D
    It went pretty well actually lol

    No call back yet but if i do i will tell them and if he wants to offer the job to somebody else thats fine :) Wouldnt say i will though, my bump was out there for him to see lol

    I beleive that once they have offered you the job, they can't take it back on the grounds of pregnancy (discrimination) - it should have been told up front.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    By law, you have to inform the company you are pregnant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Kate10


    Am very surprised at how harsh some of the responses are here. Yes it would be very rough on the employer (I was one so I know what its like) but the OP has a right to work and earn a living for her family! I absolutely would not disclose her pregnancy (although I am quite sure that it is self-evident and she will not be offered the job as a result). If offered the job the employer is not obliged to pay her full salary. Yes its tough on employers having to re-hire to fill the maternity leave, but it would be harder if no-one had babies!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    NickDrake wrote: »
    By law, you have to inform the company you are pregnant.
    link?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    link?

    I was wrong. I thought I read something last year. May have been a different jurisdiction.

    She does not have to inform them she is pregnant in interview.

    Really is tough on employers if someone suddendly just takes off first day into the job.

    No law against it but I am sure the company would not be impressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    Speaking as a pregnant woman and someone in charge of h&s in our workplace; while you prob don't have to disclose your pregnancy at interview stage you do have to inform your employer that you're pregnant on h&s grounds as they will have to risk assess your duties.

    While an an employer cannot rescind an offer bases in pregnancy they can terminate employment within the probationary period for any reason. You aren't protected by legislation on unfair dismissal until you're in a company for 12 consecutive months.

    Also I don't see the logic in starting a job at 6 months pregnant. I'm 6onths now and wishing the next two months away as I find working full time exhausting. You probably won't receive maternity benefit as you're cuurently out of work and I can't see any
    employer being generous enough to pay your salary if you've only been
    there for 2-2.5 months when they'd have to go through the hiring
    process all over again and pay another salary for your replacement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Speaking as a pregnant woman and someone in charge of h&s in our workplace; while you prob don't have to disclose your pregnancy at interview stage you do have to inform your employer that you're pregnant on h&s grounds as they will have to risk assess your duties.

    While an an employer cannot rescind an offer bases in pregnancy they can terminate employment within the probationary period for any reason. You aren't protected by legislation on unfair dismissal until you're in a company for 12 consecutive months.

    Also I don't see the logic in starting a job at 6 months pregnant. I'm 6onths now and wishing the next two months away as I find working full time exhausting. You probably won't receive maternity benefit as you're cuurently out of work and I can't see any
    employer being generous enough to pay your salary if you've only been
    there for 2-2.5 months when they'd have to go through the hiring
    process all over again and pay another salary for your replacement.

    sorry you are wrong on one point... you can't be dismissed for being pregnant or anything related at any time... the one year rule does not apply.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    "Service

    Normally you must have at least 12 months' continuous service with your employer in order to bring a claim for unfair dismissal. However there are important exceptions to this general rule. If you have less than 12 months' continuous service you may bring a claim for unfair dismissal if you are dismissed for:

    Trade union membership or activity
    Pregnancy, giving birth or breastfeeding or any matters connected with pregnancy or birth
    Availing of rights granted by the Maternity Protection Acts 1994 and 2004, the Adoptive Leave Acts 1995 and 2005, the National Minimum Wage Act 2000, the Parental Leave Acts 1998 and 2006 and the Carer's Leave Act 2001*
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    3DataModem wrote: »
    sorry you are wrong on one point... you can't be dismissed for being pregnant or anything related at any time... the one year rule does not apply.

    Exactly. A HR person who is not familar with employment laws. No change their then.

    Honestly is their any HR person who actually knows anything??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    Where did she say she was in HR? H&S usually means health and safety.
    The point is the employer can dismiss for any reason within the first 12 months. All they have to say is she wasn't up to the job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    +1 rubberdiddies
    An employer cannot let you go for brung pregnant but you can be let go or made redundant while you are pregnant for other reasons. I know because it looked possible for me a couple of months ago and I got hr and legal advice on it.

    Within your probationary period an employer can and is entitled to let you go for lots of reasons although NOT specifically for being pregnant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,581 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    Kate10 wrote: »
    If offered the job the employer is not obliged to pay her full salary.


    during her maternity leave? no they don't. Your only statutory entitlement is via the state. They are required to leave the job open for you. Your role can be made redundant during maternity leave, but nothing comes of it until your due to return to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    The point is the employer can dismiss for any reason within the first 12 months.

    No. Read my post again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    3DataModem wrote: »
    No. Read my post again.


    Read it again. Point being?
    I 100% stand by what I've written because an employer can simply say an employee isn't performing in the first 12 months and (after some formalities) let them go

    Edit: ok slightly crossed wires. I did mean any reason bar the ones you quoted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    The point is the employer can dismiss for any reason within the first 12 months.

    They can't. It's against the law for some specific reasons. What they CAN do is decide to sack you because you are pregnant, but lie and say it's for another reason. Also against the law, and regularly challenged in the EAT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    Erm, you went for an interview at 6 months pregnant...are you telling us that they did not see you were pregnant?

    Am I the only one astounded at this?

    If you said 3-4, Id say fair enough, but 6 months?

    Yes, there are ladies with "tidy" bumps, but you can still tell.

    Is it not weird that you think they couldnt tell?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I'm not even convinced that it's inappropriate for her to be looking for the job.

    Maybe it's inconvenient for the employer, maybe it's not: depends on how big the company is, and how long it takes to train someone into the job, and what risks are involved - and how long the OP is planning to be off work for after the birth. None of which we know anything about.

    The suggestion that someone who's six months gone is not able for work and needs to be resting all the time is just rubbish: pregnancy is a totally normal state, and most pregnant women can easily work until 8 months with no problems. (Unless the woman has some medical issues, of course, but again, we don't know). And as for suggesting that she shouldn't work 'cos she might slip: I reckon the risk is lower than if she was going out of her mind with boredom at home.


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