Avatar 2 and 3 on the way

Zardoz

Hopefully Cameron can concentrate on writing a decent script for the next two films .
The first film was all style and no substance

A tweet from 20th Century Fox's corporate communications account confirmed that the filmmaker "has agreed to make AVATAR 2 and 3 as his next films (sic)".

A further update on the Fox social networking site added: "Cameron, who always viewed AVATAR as creation of new world and mythology, will begin writing in early 2011 with eye towards late 2011 start."

Cameron had earlier revealed that he was considering making another movie before embarking on the next Avatar films.

Sony's Angelina Jolie-led Cleopatra was a project Cameron had expressed an interest in helming.

Avatar 2 will be released in December 2014, followed by Avatar 3 in December 2015.

Josey Wales

I know the first one gets a lot of criticism but I thought it was a great experience watching it in 3D at an IMAX screen. So I'm looking forward to more.

Lukker-

Ugh.

geoffraffe

Josey Wales wrote: »

I know the first one gets a lot of criticism but I thought it was a great experience watching it in 3D at an IMAX screen. So I'm looking forward to more.

I have to agree. The story wasn't mind blowing, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching it on the big screen. It's not often that you get to see something completely new.

Bring on the next part I say.

abouttobebanned

Bored the arse off me. A mixture between dances with wolves, The smurfs and the Matrix. Awful.

geoffraffe

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Bored the arse off me. A mixture between dances with wolves, The smurfs and the Matrix. Awful.

So I suppose you think it was about as original as your post then.

The Smurfs? That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.

abouttobebanned

Steady on sir. I didn't like the film, I didn't say I thought your girlfriend was ugly.

Minstrel27

If the story telling is as poor as the first film then I will be avoiding these like the plague. I was bored for most of it. Zardoz tells it perfectly in the opening post. All style and no substance.

geoffraffe wrote: »

So I suppose you think it was about as original as your post then.

The Smurfs? That wasn't even funny the first time I heard it.

How dare someone criticise Avatar!!!! Call the police!!!!

indough

and so the thread descends into yet another avatar bashing w*nkfest

indough

sorry i meant abadah

ricero

It was a good film better then most **** that's been made in the last decade leave it to cameron he is a cinematic god

Sanjuro

Avatar was very entertaining. Was it a cinematic masterpiece? No. It was a fair-ground ride. And I look forward to seeing what Cameron does with the Avatar universe next.

Minstrel27

indough wrote: »

and so the thread descends into yet another avatar bashing w*nkfest

The thread was doing ok until someone was offended by people not liking the film.

Hank_Jones

indough wrote: »

and so the thread descends into yet another avatar bashing w*nkfest

And so it should and so it should.

Cameron could single handedly destroy the film industry, 3D me arse, I've seen a fair few of them and there's nothing in them that really made me believe it was the future of cinema.

Plus we have to wear those feckin glasses...

Duggy747

IMAX should be the future, not bloody 3D.

Avatar had a shìt story but I was visually entertained. Some parts of the 3D worked well and I liked it but to say it's the future of cinema is a bit naff.

The future of marketing more like :pac:

PirateShampoo

Still find it funny people think 3D isnt the future.

humanji

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Still find it funny people think 3D isnt the future.

Not in it's current form, it's not.

Avatar was a great experience, as said above. But it's little else than that. If Cameron can get a good story together then it could be really good, but I'm expecting more of the same.

Scuid Mhór

i honestly am not looking forward to this. i think it'd be better if they just left it as a stand alone movie. turning it into a trilogy sounds like an awful idea unless they let it take place hundreds of years after what happened or they focused on other characters. just don't bring us back to what we had to endure the first time round.

jaykhunter

Zardoz wrote: »

Hopefully Cameron can concentrate on writing a decent script for the next two films . The first film was all style and no substance

Agreed, although my hopes are in the toilet. I imagine he'll spend two weeks on the script and 5 years on the 3D/CGI.

I originally thought the 2nd film would set up the third (much like Pirates 2) so it'd be plot heavy = i.e. could be the best of the three, but on the IGN daily update the guy said 2 and 3 would both be self-contained stories, part of an overarching story of the three. (try not to snicker! :pac:)

I'd be the first one to bash Avatar for being style and CGI over substance but I know if Avatar 2 comes out in 2D i'll watch it. I saw two 3D films over the last few months and I'm really sick of it, and preferred Avatar in 2D. The picture was brighter and sharper and was less "ooh! look at that!" distracting 3D. If I could see it in an IMAX dome in 3D (and it was developed for that) then I'd definitely see that.

Hank_Jones

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I think he can be given some slack considering he has made some of the best action movies of all time.

He's also been pretty much the driving force behind films being changed to 3D in post production.

He's made some great films, not light shows....films.

stylie

jaykhunter wrote: »

If I could see it in an IMAX dome in 3D (and it was developed for that) then I'd definitely see that.

Watched it in 3D at that big IMAX in Sydney..not much better tbh

My best experience in 3D so far is with a samsung series 8 tv and those expensive classes...

However it looks like Avatar will only be released on the panasonic 2 screen 3d

jaykhunter

stylie wrote: »

Watched it in 3D at that big IMAX in Sydney..not much better tbh. My best experience in 3D so far is with a samsung series 8 tv and those expensive classes...However it looks like Avatar will only be released on the panasonic 2 screen 3d

Was that iMAX a big flat screen or the dome screen?

Is that the "shutter" glasses 3D? when i see it, the 3D is good but i notice the flickering. What did u see in 3D on the TV?

Zardoz

Hank_Jones wrote: »

He's also been pretty much the driving force behind films being changed to 3D in post production.

He's made some great films, not light shows....films.

Yes but its well over 15 years since his last great film .
I think Cameron has become too obsessed with the technical side of film making and has taken his eye off the actual storytelling.
Titanic and Avatar are fantastic accomplishments on the technical side,sets,cgi,innovation but on a script level ,i.e plot ,characters ,even suspense they are woefully lacking.
By the time Avatar 2 and 3 some around in 4 years time the 3D fad may be worn out and the novelty of furry blue aliens will surely be worn off.

stylie

jaykhunter wrote: »

Was that iMAX a big flat screen or the dome screen?

Is that the "shutter" glasses 3D? when i see it, the 3D is good but i notice the flickering. What did u see in 3D on the TV?

Its the IMAX by Darling harbour, the screen is curved but by no means a dome like some other IMAXes I have seen.

Have had the series 8 for two weeks now, watching Sky 3D, Rugby is really good, Soccer gives us head aches, the Ryder cup was pretty good. They have a simple bugs 3d promo show and to me its the best 3 d out there, its really like looking at them in a box at the zoo. Some of the other 3D stuff on Sky is very good.

I have only watched Monster V Aliens and the effect was better on the tv than in the cinema

Sanjuro

Hank_Jones wrote: »

And so it should and so it should.

Cameron could single handedly destroy the film industry, 3D me arse, I've seen a fair few of them and there's nothing in them that really made me believe it was the future of cinema.

Plus we have to wear those feckin glasses...

Exaggerate much?

First of all, Cameron did 3D right. But Avatar was one of only a handful of films that did it right. Now, I'm no fan of 3D. If given a choice between a 2D film and a 3D film, I'll take 2D every time. But blaming Cameron for the slew of incredibly crap 3D films is completely wrong. He made a 3D film that was incredibly successful. It's every single Hollywood producer that decides a 3D should be shoe-horned into films that weren't designed to be shown in 3D that is responsible for crap 3D.

And as for 'could single handedly destroy the film industry'? Come off it. The film industry started it's decline way before Avatar came out. In fact, there's argument to be made that George Lucas and his merchandising of the original Star Wars movies began the decline of cinema. But that's an argument for a different thread.

jaykhunter

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Still find it funny people think 3D isnt the future.

Well we'll have to wait 5 years to see if it's still around in it's current volume but I can't imagine it will be.

I think it was Mark Kermode that said that Toy Story 3 in 2D actually outsold 3D

Soby

What they need to do is enforce some law/rule where you need to shoot your film in 3d or a certain % of the film needs to be 3D. Havent seen a decent 3d film since Avatar.

Kashkai

So long as you have to wear those annoying glasses AND pay a hefty premium for 3D over 2D, then its not going to "be the future of cinema".

I saw Avatar in 3D and I enjoyed the movie for what it was, a movie about greedy developers and their heavies ruining a beauty spot and then they get their comeuppance when the locals rise up to take back what was rightfully theirs - holy jebus, Cameron has ripped off modern day Irish history

As for the Avatar bashing, this movie is supposed to be about entertainment and not a factual drama. Some of the best films of the past 40 years, i.e. Jaws, Alien/Aliens, Terminator/T2, Abyss etc were pure entertainment to be enjoyed for what they were. Why get so caught up in the minutae? If you want historical factual period drama, then go watch Alexander............., er on second thoughts, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy :eek::D

Handsome Bob

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Still find it funny people think 3D isnt the future.

I don't see how, when really it's only action/sci fi/whatever films that benefit from it. Furthermore, they'll only benefit if done properly (Avatar) as opposed to Clash of the Titans (strapped on). The truth is that what Cameron did required a ridiculous budget, how many times are studios going to stump up the cash for proper 3D? Also, I think the general audience will eventually wise up to ****ty 3D like Clash of the Titans.

Savman

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

i honestly am not looking forward to this.

Is there a gun to your head forcing you to see it? Don't be such a drama queen for jaysis sake.

Visually Avatar was just stunning, story was meh but not a film I regret watching at all. I, for one, will be very interested in seeing what Cameron can do but expectation for the storyline are pretty much zilch.

Who cares anyway, 3d chewing gum for the mind and an excuse for the buttered popcorn.

norrie rugger

Hank_Jones wrote: »

He's also been pretty much the driving force behind films being changed to 3D in post production.

He's made some great films, not light shows....films.

How is it his fault that other film makers/studios are doing a bad job?

jaykhunter

I wonder if there's a way I can see Avatar 2 without paying money to see it and feeling dirty about it. Like free ticket giveaways or something.

Galvasean

jaykhunter wrote: »

I wonder if there's a way I can see Avatar 2 without paying money to see it and feeling dirty about it. Like free ticket giveaways or something.

If we run a competition you'll be the first to know.

Raedwald

Looking forward to these have to say. I liked the first film from a visual perspective, was not the best storyline but then again when are action films ever noted for their compelling storyline? Very rare imo.

Have to say don't get people who complain about the first one. You paid to go see it, you do have the option of leaving the cinema at any time if you don't like what you are watching. It's not like their is a gun being held to your head making you watch the film.

TonyD79

jaykhunter wrote: »

Well we'll have to wait 5 years to see if it's still around in it's current volume but I can't imagine it will be.

I think it was Mark Kermode that said that Toy Story 3 in 2D actually outsold 3D

Toy Story 3s target audience is parents bringing their kids/groups of them to see it. Considering the price of a 3D ticket compared to the standard 2d its not surprising they actually outsold it.