Qashqai

littletiger

We need a new car and my wife likes the Qashqai because of the extra height: I don't particularly like it.

How do people rate the Qashqai and any suggestions for a good alternative?

OldmanMondeo

My wife has a Qashqui, I drive a Mondeo. To be honest I find the Qashaui very nice to drive. Feels very stable for a higher style car. 1.6 petrol gets around 7l per 100klms. Nippy enough, not supercar speeds, but quick enough off the light. Standard equipement is very good, alloys, fogs, Bluetooth stero. Good size boot.

littletiger

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

My wife has a Qashqui, I drive a Mondeo. To be honest I find the Qashaui very nice to drive. Feels very stable for a higher style car. 1.6 petrol gets around 7l per 100klms. Nippy enough, not supercar speeds, but quick enough off the light. Standard equipement is very good, alloys, fogs, Bluetooth stero. Good size boot.

Is there much legroom in the back?
I know the +2 has no legroom

KamiKazi

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

minotour

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

same argument applies to the stupid cnut in the normal size car that crashes into you, at least your well protected.

colm_mcm

I don't think there's anything out there to rival it in terms of price vs appeal,

It's miles better looking than a skoda yeti, bigger than a terios, more modern than a vitara and far cheaper than a kuga, rav4, tiguan etc.

KIA Have a new sportage out which looks quite smart. Ive driven its Hyundai Ix35 cousin and its a lot more powerful than the 1.5 quashqai and bigger too.

If you're looking used, its hard to beat the Nissan for sheer choice.

Idleater

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

Nah she's just admitting that she can't park a normal car because her spatial awareness is vertically calibrated as opposed to horizontal.

3DataModem

Wife has one, a very nice drive. Fits double buggy in boot plus shopping no prob.

Idleater

minotour wrote: »

at least your well protected.

lolTypical of the reasoning behind the Xover vehicles. I have to protect myself at the cheapest price because there are too many other loo laas out there. :rolleyes:

Just buy the Range Rover and be done with it.

colm_mcm

To be fair the quashqai is only scenic sized and isn't a big lumbering tank.

phill106

Test drove a +2, liked it. seemed nippy, good range of options etc.
If we had the money, would buy one tomorrow.

Alun

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

What, you mean a "normal" size car like, for example, a Ford Focus? If you care to look up the figures, the Quashqai is shorter, narrower and only 10.6cm higher than the Focus .. it's all a cunning sleight of hand that it looks bigger than it really is, which I guess is all part of the appeal.

littletiger

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don't think there's anything out there to rival it in terms of price vs appeal,

It's miles better looking than a skoda yeti, bigger than a terios, more modern than a vitara and far cheaper than a kuga, rav4, tiguan etc.

KIA Have a new sportage out which looks quite smart. Ive driven its Hyundai Ix35 cousin and its a lot more powerful than the 1.5 quashqai and bigger too.

If you're looking used, its hard to beat the Nissan for sheer choice.

I drove an IX35 myself and liked it. The 2L is supposed to be heavy on juice about 42mpg? Not sure about the new 1.7L.
I would be worried it I bought a Hyundai that I would be stuck with it?

Also Agree with ALUN the Qashqai is not a big car, just a bit taller

bazz26

The Qashqai is not an SUV. It is basically a Focus/Golf size crossover that has been designed to have a higher ground clearance, higher driving position and added SUV body type parts such as flared wheel arches and bumpers. It replaced the Almera in most markets of the compact hatchback segment except in the likes of Ireland who got the Tiida too.

Mr.David

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

And you in your 'normal' car - who cares about the poor b4stard in the supermini car you hit in an accident

Your argument makes no sense!

EPM

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yea get a nice big car.

who cares about the poor b4stard in the normal size car you hit in an accident.

Why even bother replying, especially when you are obviously unfamiliar with the reality of the car. It's just a small, tall car. Makes it handy when struggling with baby seats and all that lark. Hardly a fcekin Landcruiser Amazon or something:rolleyes:

Mc Love

Why not go for an S-max?

Zubeneschamali

Mc Love wrote: »

Why not go for an S-max?

Much bigger and better than a Qashqai, but much dearer too.

colm_mcm

Isn't an s max about 10k more and a lot bigger?


What's your budget OP?

Mc Love

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Much bigger and better than a Qashqai, but much dearer too.

C-MAX then? Its slightly smaller than an S-MAX

OldmanMondeo

littletiger wrote: »

Is there much legroom in the back?
I know the +2 has no legroom

It has a small bit more legroom than the +2. other wise probably the same as say a Focus.

Also Mitsibushi just brought out hte ASW, (I think that is the name). Read a review on it, it is to take on the Qashqui in terms of size etc, but might be a bit cheaper.

KamiKazi

EPM wrote: »

Why even bother replying, especially when you are obviously unfamiliar with the reality of the car. It's just a small, tall car. Makes it handy when struggling with baby seats and all that lark. Hardly a fcekin Landcruiser Amazon or something:rolleyes:

It's not all about physical size, it's also where the weight is.

It's taller than your average car and will do a lot more damage in a collision with a normal family saloon.

Fifth gear did a test a while back proving this, in work ATM so can't find it on Youtube.

pippip

KamiKazi wrote: »

It's not all about physical size, it's also where the weight is.

It's taller than your average car and will do a lot more damage in a collision with a normal family saloon.

Fifth gear did a test a while back proving this, in work ATM so can't find it on Youtube.

Scores the same as a mondeo on ENCAP test results against pedestrians

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/ford_mondeo_2007/299.aspx

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_qashqai_2007/290.aspx

Idleater

pippip wrote: »

Scores the same as a mondeo on ENCAP test results against pedestrians

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/ford_mondeo_2007/299.aspx

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_qashqai_2007/290.aspx

I noticed that too, but I think the argument KamiKazi is putting forward is that while both score similarly at 30kph, the more over that the worse damage inflicted by the Crossover will be.

We can let this argument descend into driver training, the manner in which the driver attitude changes when behind the wheel of a large object as opposed to a smaller one, and the actual need for these vehicles.

In reality most 4x4s get off-road to mount a kerb (badly parked) and most 2x4s are 4x4 imitations whose prime market is those who see the safety aspect of a big car but want it without the expense of the RangeRover.

I mean, is it really that difficult to pack up an estate car as opposed to a Crossover?

swe_fi

Have not owned a Quashqaui but i rented one a couple of times, kind of liked it
but did not like the seats, they were a bit small for me (6"1)

What impressed me most was the fuel consumption, i had a Diesel 1.7 or 1.9 or something (don't know what size it is) but it took 23L (=0.55 ish L/10km) Diesel return to Dublin Airport doing 120-130 all the way. I remember it because i was surprised, I thought that was pretty good for this size car. Was only me in the car though so might not be that good in "proper" use

The engine was a bit weird as in power band, good punch but faded very quickly, I know most diesels do but this was a bit exceptional. Not that you buy one to race but...The car was pretty quiet and the quality feel was Ok/Japanese car.

Mr.David

Surprised to see no one has mentioned the Skoda Yeti?

Has gotten rave reviews and was COTY from a number of magazines.

Havent driven one, but sat in one and was impressed. I'd imagine the 2.0tdi is a really good buy.

colm_mcm

nobody in their right mind would buy something like a focus estate over a similarly priced crossover if they have kids. A high roof makes lifting kids in and out easier, and the kids love being that bit higher up. Estates are generally quite long ane harder to park too.
Running costs are the same, tax is the same, resale on estates is bad, and if you're buying with both head and heart who wants a focus/astra estate? (Apart from photocopier salesmen/plumbers)

Granted I have made the argument for estate cars previously, but in this case I can't see the case for one.
I know my missus would prefer a kuga to a Mondeo, a Tucson to an i30sw or a rav4 to an avensis tourer

Damie

What about the new Toyota Urban Cruiser? Not a clue what they are like, just seen one today on the road, didn't even know they existed tbh.....

edit: I was behind it when I seen it and it looked 'dainty', just had a look up on the toyota site.....tis a yaris on steroids...yuch

Idleater

colm_mcm wrote: »

Granted I have made the argument for estate cars previously, but in this case I can't see the case for one.
I know my missus would prefer a kuga to a Mondeo, a Tucson to an i30sw or a rav4 to an avensis tourer

Personally, there are nicer estates to the ones you mention, but you raise valid points.

I'd go for a Volvo estate over xover any day, and as regards style, surely the 159 estate has to be nicer to look at never mind drive compared to a kumquat

-Corkie-

Skoda Yeti would be a better car. Way better diesel engine and they have a great spec as well imo.

EPM

-Corkie- wrote: »

Skoda Yeti would be a better car. Way better diesel engine and they have a great spec as well imo.

€26k is for a full spec one isn't to be sniffed at. I admire the oddball looks too though

-Corkie-

EPM wrote: »

€26k is for a full spec one isn't to be sniffed at. I admire the oddball looks too though

You will buy them cheaper than that. 26k will get you all the toys like a panaramic sunroof etc. They are much better looking than a Cash cow aswell imo.

Absurdum

colm_mcm

The yeti is awful looking though.

EPM

colm_mcm wrote: »

The yeti is awful looking though.

Yeah, but at least it's different. I'd respect a car more for that. Beats a blandbox!

colm_mcm

That's not enough reason to buy one. The ssangyong rodius is different, The Nissan juke is different too.

There are ways of making a car stand out without making it ugly.

EPM

But it's a decent car behind it too. Can't really make a jeep-ish thing look good really anyway. To me functional is good.

colm_mcm

Behind the ugliness is the vw tiguan, which is a decent looking car but pricey.
It's as if vw engineered in bad styling to protect its own version.


Same thing happened with the superb IMO

littletiger

Yeti is nice with a 2L Audi Engine but there is no boot space.
I would prefer to have an estate and the superb is massive but the new 1.6L only pushes out 105bhp.

I drove a 3007 - poor handling and a bit plasticy.

I must look into the Mitsubishi X-over.

Lex Luthor

colm mc is right, most women will choose the suv from a car maker than their best estate. For price the quasqai is good value.
Check out the subaru forrester aswell. My missus would be swayed to part with her mpv for one

galwaytt

colm_mcm wrote: »

To be fair the quashqai is only scenic sized and isn't a big lumbering tank.

It actually IS a Scenic - more than a few similarities between it and the 00-05 Facelift Scenic..........no coincidence, imho....

KamiKazi wrote: »

It's not all about physical size, it's also where the weight is.

It's taller than your average car and will do a lot more damage in a collision with a normal family saloon.

Fifth gear did a test a while back proving this, in work ATM so can't find it on Youtube.

Nonsense. First, I've never, ever, heard of anyone buying a car because of what it might do to somebody else.........they think of their own safety first. Oh, and ENCAP ratings include the damage to the 3rd parties iirc, so the 5-stars include it......

colm_mcm wrote: »

nobody in their right mind would buy something like a focus estate over a similarly priced crossover if they have kids. A high roof makes lifting kids in and out easier, and the kids love being that bit higher up. ........I know my missus would prefer a kuga to a Mondeo

+1. Heck, never mind the kids I love being higher up, too, but not in a conventional SUV - they are, truly, trucks. The Scenic/Qashqai is just a tall car - and it's not actually that tall at all. As for hte Kuga - yep, lovely. All you need is €€€€

Damie wrote: »

What about the new Toyota Urban Cruiser?

...oh Christ no. If we're going to buy Turkish cars, wtf are we pretending they're Japanese, at Japanese prices ?

-Corkie- wrote: »

Skoda Yeti would be a better car. Way better diesel engine and they have a great spec as well imo.

colm_mcm wrote: »

The yeti is awful looking though.

Awful or no- it's clever, functional. Next door neighbour has one - I like it, tbh.

littletiger

Lex Luthor wrote: »

colm mc is right, most women will choose the suv from a car maker than their best estate. For price the quasqai is good value.
Check out the subaru forrester aswell. My missus would be swayed to part with her mpv for one

Any idea on the price of a forrester.

If I buy a car I will be keeping it 10 years so I would be a little concious about buying the likes of a forrester - lack of second hand parts down the line.

tom traubert

I find it strange that the CMax is left behind in the suggestions race with only one(?) advocate so far.

We've had two so far and Mrs T has been more than happy.

Also, the brand new model is arriving next month, as is the new Grand CMax (sliding rear passenger doors). You should google it and see what you think?

krissovo

tom traubert wrote: »

I find it strange that the CMax is left behind in the suggestions race with only one(?) advocate so far.

We've had two so far and Mrs T has been more than happy.

Also, the brand new model is arriving next month, as is the new Grand CMax (sliding rear passenger doors). You should google it and see what you think?

Unfortunately depreciation and a ugly car to boot does not help the Ford cause.

groupb

colm_mcm wrote: »

nobody in their right mind would buy something like a focus estate over a similarly priced crossover if they have kids. A high roof makes lifting kids in and out easier, and the kids love being that bit higher up. Estates are generally quite long ane harder to park too.
Running costs are the same, tax is the same, resale on estates is bad, and if you're buying with both head and heart who wants a focus/astra estate? (Apart from photocopier salesmen/plumbers)

Granted I have made the argument for estate cars previously, but in this case I can't see the case for one.
I know my missus would prefer a kuga to a Mondeo, a Tucson to an i30sw or a rav4 to an avensis tourer

My wife has a qashqai and its a lot smaller than a focus estate. Having said that its not a bad family car and the height is an advantage when strapping in a child.

alias no.9

tom traubert wrote: »

I find it strange that the CMax is left behind in the suggestions race with only one(?) advocate so far.

We've had two so far and Mrs T has been more than happy.

Also, the brand new model is arriving next month, as is the new Grand CMax (sliding rear passenger doors). You should google it and see what you think?

The Mazda 5 has been available for years and is essentially a 7 seater C-Max with sliding rear doors. The problem is that the middle seat in the middle row is not a full size seat, the back two seats are always occasional seats in a small 7 seater so what you have is a car that can seat 4 comfortably and 7 at a squeeze, a 4+3 if you will, where the likes of the Grand Scenic, Grand Picasso, Verso, etc... all have three full size seats in the middle row, making them 5+2's. The Grand C-Max repeats this mistake.

Zubeneschamali

alias no.9 wrote: »

The Grand C-Max repeats this mistake

It's not so much a mistake as a choice. Ford already have a 5+2, the S-Max.
The C-Max can't be so big, or it'll overlap too much with the bigger model.

Their choice with the C-Max is to put 3 identical but not full size seats in the 2nd row, or 2 full size and one smaller seat. I'd prefer 3 identical seats as I have 3 kids, but anyone who has 2 kids, especially 2 teens, will prefer the C-Max layout.

Antrim_Man

I have exhausted every car in the market for quotations from a lease hire company and they rate the Qashqai above all others.(cars under 30k) Cars like the new cheaper C-Max, Skoda diesels and every other car commanded a dearer lease price so these guys see the Qashqai as a safe bet on resale value after 3 years. Kind of reminds me of the saying the bookies are seldom wrong.

I am a little concerned about the 1.5D engine. Is it dead? I did drive the 1.6 petrol and found it very lame. Has anyone remapped their diesel Qashqai??

Yakuza

I have a QQ+2 with the 1.5 diesel engine, it's not the most exhillarating drive in the world, but will (even with a full load) get to and hold motorway speeds with a decent l/100km to boot (in the UK I was getting around 5.8 (~49mpg) on the M5 / M6 with 2 adults, 3 kids and the entire boot chock-full of luggage). It's very comfortable on long journeys - I drove about 700k in 7 hours (including a pit stop) with no bother at all. The very back seats are for kids only, almost no legroom, but the middle row is fine (once I've taken the kids seats out )

It's not going to be fast away from the lights, but it's a grand drive around town. I went for the comfort pack (€400 for cruise control, folding mirrors, dual climate control and 6-cd changer); well worth it too imho.