Dropping Out

UrbanSea

Ahoy. Cutting a long story short.
Doing Arts,in first year,don't like it and it wasn't what I wanted to do,just took it for the sake of it.
Going to drop out and repeat my leaving cert,and hopefully come back next year doing what I want to do.
Just wondering,who should I e-mail or contact in relation to giving up my place?
Thanks.

RolandIRL

Withdrawing from NUIG link

It has all the information and instructions you should need. Sorry to hear that you're dropping out but no point staying if you're unhappy with your course.

UrbanSea

Thanks man,that's my reasoning too. Head down for the year.

T-Square

greetings wrote: »

Ahoy. Cutting a long story short.
Doing Arts,in first year,don't like it and it wasn't what I wanted to do,just took it for the sake of it.
Going to drop out and repeat my leaving cert,and hopefully come back next year doing what I want to do.
Just wondering,who should I e-mail or contact in relation to giving up my place?
Thanks.

No effort into your leaving cert,
no effort into an arts course, that someone else really wanted,
and now you can't even bother your backside to find out how to drop out.

You must be a troll.

poisonated

I don't want to drag this thread off topic so I won't say that T-square is pretty ignorant.

RolandIRL

why did i know that someone was going to lash at the OP? :rolleyes:

not everyone knows what they want to do when they're 18/19 and would you rather that greetings stay in the course and hate it?
he asked for information, being a first year probably means he didn't know where to go to look for it.
it's nobody's business but his on whether he drops out or not. he doesn't need to be judged by you, and i'd love to know where you found out that no effort was done on his part. if you don't like a course, you're going to be less inclined to work hard at it.

and generally trolls don't go around asking for information, especially when they appear to be a regular user.

UrbanSea

T-Square wrote: »

No effort into your leaving cert,
no effort into an arts course, that someone else really wanted,
and now you can't even bother your backside to find out how to drop out.

You must be a troll.

Post of the day,for a second I thought I was in the humour forum.
Lawl,you don't know me. What makes you think I haven't already submitted my english and legal essays because I'd give the course a go?(Which I have btw).
What makes you think I didn't work last year?
Because I got 395?
Anybody you gets arts didn't work is it? Just because I didn't get my first choice didn't mean I didn't work. Suppose you got 600 points or something did you? With minimal effort I'm sure.
And pardon me for wanting to find out the correct way of doing something.
Dick.

UrbanSea

poisonated wrote: »

I don't want to drag this thread off topic so I won't say that T-square is pretty ignorant.

No need when a poster can clearly paint they're on portrait.

UrbanSea

whiteman19 wrote: »

why did i know that someone was going to lash at the OP? :rolleyes:
.

Haha,I wasn't the only one expecting it then? :P

HotDogger

greetings wrote: »

Going to drop out and repeat my leaving cert

Jaysus, is that what it takes? Can't you just do really well this year and then finagle your way into what "you really want to do?"

RolandIRL

HotDogger wrote: »

Jaysus, is that what it takes? Can't you just do really well this year and then finagle your way into what "you really want to do?"

Probably not allowed if it's in a different faculty in a different college altogether usually it has to be the same faculty afaik for transfers eg Science -> other science course

UrbanSea

HotDogger wrote: »

Jaysus, is that what it takes? Can't you just do really well this year and then finagle your way into what "you really want to do?"

Afraid not. I know my goal and plan on working for it this year (Primary teaching at the moment unless I find a course during the year which alters my decision.)

ValJester

greetings wrote: »

Afraid not. I know my goal and plan on working for it this year (Primary teaching at the moment unless I find a course during the year which alters my decision.)

There's postgrads in Educational Science you can go into if you get a high 2:1 or a First.

Mr. Loverman

I think you'll have to pay fees in the first year of your new course...? My understanding is you only get free fees once.

RolandIRL

same for the grant as well afaik. wasn't too sure about the fees

UrbanSea

ValJester wrote: »

There's postgrads in Educational Science you can go into if you get a high 2:1 or a First.

To be honest,I'd rather go straight in from the leaving.It's something I really don't want to regret in ten or fifteen years time,being disappointed with my leaving results.

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I think you'll have to pay fees in the first year of your new course...? My understanding is you only get free fees once.

Half fees if I leave before January as far as I'm aware.

brianthebard

greetings wrote: »

To be honest,I'd rather go straight in from the leaving.It's something I really don't want to regret in ten or fifteen years time,being disappointed with my leaving results.


Half fees if I leave before January as far as I'm aware.

Check to see if transferring is an option first before dropping out so.

UrbanSea

I did,'twas a no go.

challengemaster

greetings wrote: »

To be honest,I'd rather go straight in from the leaving.It's something I really don't want to regret in ten or fifteen years time,being disappointed with my leaving results.

Being completely honest, the LC results mean squat, especially once you've got a degree. It just becomes yet another exam. Nobody cares about it once you get past 1st year, and once you have a degree, that is all that matters. If you even know what you got in your LC in 2 years time, you'll be doing well.

There's alternate ways to get into almost everything. Are you really sure you want to drop out, waste this year, do the LC again next year (of which you'll need to do atleast 6 subjects to try get decent points - you cant mix&match points from different sittings) and even then there's no guarantee you're going to get a spot in a primary teaching course. I also think there's a pretty big amount of applicants for primary teaching each year in the CAO, and with points for courses rising all the time... is it really worth dropping out because in 10 years time, you won't like your LC results?

If I were you, I'd be thinking very long and hard about this, and considering post-grad options for teaching through arts. Otherwise you could throw away a few years and a lot of money quite easily.

Ficheall

greetings wrote: »

Post of the day,for a second I thought I was in the humour forum.
Lawl,you don't know me. What makes you think I haven't already submitted my english and legal essays because I'd give the course a go?(Which I have btw).
What makes you think I didn't work last year?
Because I got 395?
Anybody you gets arts didn't work is it? Just because I didn't get my first choice didn't mean I didn't work. Suppose you got 600 points or something did you? With minimal effort I'm sure.
And pardon me for wanting to find out the correct way of doing something.
Dick.

Just because there's a forum specifically for humour doesn't mean people have to be so anal about tongue-in-cheek comments made in other fora.

That you didn't work last year could be inferred (perhaps incorrectly, granted) from the fact that you intend to go back and put the head down this year, according to yourself, which would certainly imply that you didn't feel as though you had done so the previous year.

That you didn't put in the effort to find out how to withdraw might be taken from the fact that googling "nuig withdrawing" returns the first link which a respondant posted claiming that it contained all relevant information.

That you've done no work this year... well, that's not an entirely unfair conclusion to leap to given that a) you're not enjoying the course (there is some correlation there, though said correlation does not necessarily support T-square's hypothesis), b) you're a first year, c) you're an Arts student*.



*c) is tongue-in-cheek - so no need to roll out that bandwagon. I know at least one hardworking Arts student.


But aside from that - is it really necessary to repeat the LC and do the B.Ed? It sounds like a horrible way to spend a year - especially when you should just as easily be able to do first Arts again, changing subjects if you wish, and then doing a HDip in Ed after the degree?
At least that way you'd have a somewhat more flexible degree.
Also - have you any experience teaching children? I'm sure you have, but if not it might be an idea to get some experience this year - whatever you end up doing.


edit: that said - I hated my degree but didn't have the guts, I suppose, to admit I'd made a mistake and drop out.
But I ended up with a lovely phd out of it.
Moral of the story: um... no idea...

brianthebard

two people in this thread infracted so far - going to leave it open for another while in case the op needs to sort out other issues or as for help again but if the same ****e continues I'll lock it and ban anyone who continues to act the bollocks.

Lockstep

greetings wrote: »

Afraid not. I know my goal and plan on working for it this year (Primary teaching at the moment unless I find a course during the year which alters my decision.)

If you stayed on and completed your arts degree, you could then do a post grad diploma in primary teaching in Mater Dei or St Patrick's or somewhere like that.

It'll work out the same length of time anyway (one year to repeat the leaving cert, then 3 years of Arts/ 3 years of arts and one year to get the postgrad diploma in primary teaching)

If you're really unhappy with your course, then dropping out and reapplying is a good option, but if you're dropping out as you want to become a primary teacher, then it's as well to stick with it (you could be a graduate in English and Legal Science which gives you more options in the future, as well as letting you teach primary)

Ficheall

kickoutthejams wrote: »

you could be a graduate in English and Legal Science which gives you more options in the future, as well as letting you teach primary

Especially considering: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056063748

UrbanSea

challengemaster wrote: »

Being completely honest, the LC results mean squat, especially once you've got a degree. It just becomes yet another exam. Nobody cares about it once you get past 1st year, and once you have a degree, that is all that matters. If you even know what you got in your LC in 2 years time, you'll be doing well.

There's alternate ways to get into almost everything. Are you really sure you want to drop out, waste this year, do the LC again next year (of which you'll need to do atleast 6 subjects to try get decent points - you cant mix&match points from different sittings) and even then there's no guarantee you're going to get a spot in a primary teaching course. I also think there's a pretty big amount of applicants for primary teaching each year in the CAO, and with points for courses rising all the time... is it really worth dropping out because in 10 years time, you won't like your LC results?

If I were you, I'd be thinking very long and hard about this, and considering post-grad options for teaching through arts. Otherwise you could throw away a few years and a lot of money quite easily.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

If you stayed on and completed your arts degree, you could then do a post grad diploma in primary teaching in Mater Dei or St Patrick's or somewhere like that.

It'll work out the same length of time anyway (one year to repeat the leaving cert, then 3 years of Arts/ 3 years of arts and one year to get the postgrad diploma in primary teaching)

If you're really unhappy with your course, then dropping out and reapplying is a good option, but if you're dropping out as you want to become a primary teacher, then it's as well to stick with it (you could be a graduate in English and Legal Science which gives you more options in the future, as well as letting you teach primary)

Thanks for the replies guys.
I wouldn't be wasting this year,I've enrolled to go back to school come next week,so I wouldn't be wasting this year. That would leave me with this year and three years from next year if I were to get Pat's,the same as if I were to finish the B.A and do the HDIP. It comes down to this really. I'd rather have a straight degree in Primary Ed than have an arts degree and get in the 'back door',even if it came down to repeating,as it would work out the same length of time. Also,it gives me time this year to re-asses my options. As another poster said,not everyone is certain what they want to do at 18. 6 months down the road I could find another course I want to do,and be glad that I repeated and found it.

UrbanSea

Ficheall wrote: »

Just because there's a forum specifically for humour doesn't mean people have to be so anal about tongue-in-cheek comments made in other fora.

That you didn't work last year could be inferred (perhaps incorrectly, granted) from the fact that you intend to go back and put the head down this year, according to yourself, which would certainly imply that you didn't feel as though you had done so the previous year.

That you didn't put in the effort to find out how to withdraw might be taken from the fact that googling "nuig withdrawing" returns the first link which a respondant posted claiming that it contained all relevant information.

That you've done no work this year... well, that's not an entirely unfair conclusion to leap to given that a) you're not enjoying the course (there is some correlation there, though said correlation does not necessarily support T-square's hypothesis), b) you're a first year, c) you're an Arts student*.



*c) is tongue-in-cheek - so no need to roll out that bandwagon. I know at least one hardworking Arts student.


But aside from that - is it really necessary to repeat the LC and do the B.Ed? It sounds like a horrible way to spend a year - especially when you should just as easily be able to do first Arts again, changing subjects if you wish, and then doing a HDip in Ed after the degree?
At least that way you'd have a somewhat more flexible degree.
Also - have you any experience teaching children? I'm sure you have, but if not it might be an idea to get some experience this year - whatever you end up doing.


edit: that said - I hated my degree but didn't have the guts, I suppose, to admit I'd made a mistake and drop out.
But I ended up with a lovely phd out of it.
Moral of the story: um... no idea...

I assume you tried to sugar coat your original post with that edit at the end,left the same moment you received an infraction.
1. I didn't find that comment tongue in cheek,and I'm sure you didn't either. I found it funny how obnoxious the poster came and how he seemed to know me so well judging by his response. Reading 5 or 6 lines of a post of mine must really paint a picture of how hard I worked or didn't work,evidently.

Agreed,referring to 'putting my head down' for this year could imply that I didn't last year,apologies if it came across that way. What I mean,and what I should have said was 'I intend to go back and repeat this year,and work even harder than last year,given that I'm disappointed with the results I obtained and sadly didn't get an offer for my first choice'. Much better.


In relation to a). Quite a silly assumption really. My father has the same job for the last 30 years. He hates it. He works hard. You don't need to enjoy something to work hard at it. I washed dishes for 4 summers. Like it?Nope. Worked hard?Yes. I worked hard at it because at the time I thought that was the only thing I could do,hadn't even considered repeating, but as the course continued and I explored different avenues available to me,I thought repeating to be the most appropriate.
b)Yes I'm a first year...which suggests I don't work hard? Bit of a general assumption to make,possible basing your judgement on you/people you know(Apologies,again if I'm incorrect here).
c).Hehehe,

UrbanSea

Ficheall wrote: »

But aside from that - is it really necessary to repeat the LC and do the B.Ed? It sounds like a horrible way to spend a year - especially when you should just as easily be able to do first Arts again, changing subjects if you wish, and then doing a HDip in Ed after the degree?
At least that way you'd have a somewhat more flexible degree.
Also - have you any experience teaching children? I'm sure you have, but if not it might be an idea to get some experience this year - whatever you end up doing.

Pardon me,I forgot about the last part of the post.
I could just as easily do that I suppose,but it would be the same length as time as if I were to repeat and get my first choice,and do a course which I know a few people doing and immensely enjoy,which would appeal to me more than doing the course which I'm currently enrolled in,which I don't enjoy.
Yes did a 2 week work experience in a primary school at the end of 5th year and did 3 days last year.

Ficheall

greetings wrote: »

I assume you tried to sugar coat your original post with that edit at the end,left the same moment you received an infraction.

Nope - the edit was just that little addition at the end because I forgot to say it before I hit submit. The edit is included in the pm that was sent re the infraction.
I'll agree that the infraction was uncalled for, given that that's the case, but the mods do their best and since the infraction's not going to affect me any I won't complain.

greetings wrote: »

1. I didn't find that comment tongue in cheek,and I'm sure you didn't either.

I did, actually. Absolutely. I always assume posts on internet fora are meant as a joke, unless further reading suggests otherwise. Granted, I am often then disappointed by the lack of "humourous" posts, but such is life.


Also, I don't disbelieve that you didn't work hard - I don't particularly care, no offense, I was just pointing out that such inferences could have been drawn by... um.. whatever the offending poster's name was.
Granted, there was no need to do so, but I was surprised at how everyone immediately took umbrage at his post.

Anyway - not to drag your thread further off-topic, I shall say no more on the matter.
Just one thing re the first year stuff - don't work too hard. Enjoy it.

UrbanSea

Alas,we cannot have it all.
Thank you for your input.

Marvel80

Hi there, just wanted to let you know I'm 30 and took the only course I was offered after my leaving cert, I ended up getting an Arts Degree thru an IT and went onto do a Post Grad in NUIG.

However I was always disappointed with my choices and last year went back and did a Pre nursing course and got an offer of Midwifery in NUIG which I will hopefully start next Sep.

Life is a journey and I think you should listen to your gut and not other peoples biased opinions. If you stuck it out and got your Degree like i did it is an accomplishment but that niggle is always there and you can't turn back time! So i say go for it, study hard and enjoy being young.

Why does it seem that people are berating some guy for wanting to drop out of college? So what? Some college courses aren't for some people.

OP - I got into the second year of a course I disliked and, even though I was near the top of the class, I dropped out because I realised it wasn't what I wanted to do. Since then I have gone on to do a PLC in Film & TV, have a bsc and am on tracks to getting my honours degree. Had I stayed in a college course I didn't like, I would likely have not achieved any of this.

UrbanSea

Sorry guys I forgot about this thread,but thanks for the advice.
I'm back as a repeat leaving cert and working hard,hopefully it'll come good come next August.