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cracking joints?

  • 26-10-2010 10:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭


    does it or does it not cause arthritis?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Here we go.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    sorry if this has been talked about a lot. dont worry about it i will find out another way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Jaafa wrote: »
    Here we go.....

    Where are we going? To someone who will answer the question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Where are we going? To someone who will answer the question?

    Not likely but I will make an attempt.....OP There evidence for both sides of the story here. Some say it does some say it doesn't. You wont likely get a clear answer either way. Its up to you to do your own research into the matter and make your own conclusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    The important thing is that it feels great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Well yes that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    ha it sure does........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    The important thing is that it feels great.

    It's bloody amazing!

    I sometimes "flick" out my leg, so it straightens at the knee, and simultaneously turns in. Gets a ginormous crack at the knee. Drives the ball and chain nuts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I asked my orthopediac surgeon about this a couple of years ago - my joints are all pretty cracky and have been since childhood.

    His answer was an emphatic NO - natural crackiness does not cause arthritis.

    He said that one of the reasons for thinking it does is that people manipulate their own joints in an unnatural way into cracking (like people squashing down their knuckles to get them to crack). There is a difference between joint manipulation and a joint passively cracking. Passive cracking - you stand up and your hip cracks for example - no problem. Joint manipulation - you force a joint into some unnatural position to make it crack - could cause damage to the joint over time and lead to arthritis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    thank you very much username123!
    ha unfortunately i fall into the bracket that could do damage...........maybe i will stop.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    Don't ask me to find where, but ive heard from a number of sources that some physician in the states cracked the knuckles on only one hand for decades, and there was no increase in joint damage compared to the normal hand.
    (im sure im not hte only one who's heard this before)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭aceygray


    Jaafa wrote: »
    There evidence for both sides of the story here. Some say it does some say it doesn't. You wont likely get a clear answer either way.

    Do you have any cites that say knuckle cracking does cause arthritis? I have found two that show no correlation between joint cracking and arthritis:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1004074/pdf/annrheumd00439-0036.pdf
    There was no increased preponderance of arthritis of the hand in either group
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129752/pdf/westjmed00297-0049.pdf
    The data fail to support evidence that knuckle cracking leads to degenerative changes in the metacarpal phalangeal joints in old age.
    I myself crack most of my joints several times a day. I know it's really annoying for the people around me, but my joints feel uncomfortable if I don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    I crack joints all the time - sometimes on purpose to relief tension -sometimes accidentally.

    My 2 pence. The cracking itself is not harmful - its just the release of some local musculoskeletal tension and fibres twanging (Note I am aware they say its nitrogen escaping from joints. This may happen sometimes but I DO NOT believe this is what all joint cracking is. Not in the least because when I crack my left thumb - I can visibly see a muscle fibre twanging in my forearm and I can feel the release of tension in my thumb, wrist, forearm and elbow.)

    What may be harmful however is that muscle tension itself. In others words the increased muscle tension may in time cause damage to the joints and result in arthritis.

    Thus in this model - both the joint cracking and arthritis are a symptom of chronic muscle tension/imbalance around the joint.

    I've been thinking on this one a long time :D


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