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Know your Conspiracies...

  • 26-10-2010 9:32am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭


    Ok, so I thought of a good idea for a new thread that could hopefully be a good reference thread, and also a way to get some discussion going.

    So basically, the idea is, that you put forward a standardised summary of one of the conspiracies you are interested in. It can be anything from a conspiracy you believe to be true, one which you are not sure about, or one which you think is a little silly, but you are still interested in it. I'd love to see both CT proponents and skeptics to have a bit of input.

    The heading I suggest you use are:

    Title

    Timeframe What the timespan of the conspiracy is.

    Introduction/Short Summary:Just about 3-4 lines outlining what the basic summary of the CT is

    Main Body: You can further sub-divide this section down as much as you want.

    Motivation: Why are the conspirators conspiring? What is their end goal?

    Evidence: Here you can show what evidence points to the CT being correct, or just why you think there is merit to it.

    Conclusion: Here you can put what your own personal feeling on the theory is, whether it is likely, definitely happening, or probably untrue etc.

    References: In here you should include any relevant reports, papers, youtube videos, etc.

    Interesting Threads: If you know of any interesting threads where people can discuss the theory, or where they can learn more.


    There should be no discussion, or questioning of theories in this thread. Also, where possible, try and contain your theories to one per post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Title BA - Virgin Price Fixing

    Timeframe 2 years

    Introduction/Short Summary: BT and Virgin agreed to set the cost of the fuel surcharge on Atlantic routes. Thus making more money, the fuel surcharge rose from £5 to £60.

    Main Body: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6925397.stm
    BA's price-fix fine reaches £270m
    BA has admitted that the actions of some staff were unacceptable
    British Airways has been fined about £270m after it admitted collusion in fixing the prices of fuel surcharges.

    The US Department of Justice has fined it $300m (£148m) for colluding on how much extra to charge on passenger and cargo flights, to cover fuel costs.

    It followed a decision by the UK's Office of Fair Trading to fine BA £121.5m, after it held illegal talks with rival Virgin Atlantic.

    Motivation: Pure financial gain

    Evidence: They got caught. See above. Though things took a different turn earlier this this when the case collapsed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/7707701/Collapsed-BA-price-fixing-trial-places-OFT-and-Virgin-in-the-dock.html

    Conclusion: This to me is what is most likely with CT's. Smaller, simpler and for money.

    References: as above


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Ok so I'll go first.... Discussion of this topic here.


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    Title: Satanic/NWO Imagery in the Entertainment Industry

    Timespan: At least as early as the 1960s

    Introduction: For unclear reasons the entertainment industry, in particular the music industry, has become littered with imagery which is representative of the NWO/Illuminati. These symbols include "the all seeing eye", the pyramid of illumination, the satanic god baphomet, and other imagery consistent with the NWO.

    The Conspiracy

    There has long been an association with the music industry and satanism. Some of it is down to the prudish 1940s and 1950s generation being overly concerned about the strange music their kids started to listen to in the 1960s and 70s. However, maybe there is something to it?

    For the purposes of keeping this to one post, I am only going to speak about contemporary artists, however, it is not a new phenomenon.

    In todays music scene some of the biggest and hottest artists, who seem to have the most dedicated fans are people like; Beyoncé, Jay Z, Eminem, Rihanna, Pink, Lady Gaga etc. However, I believe their music videos, album covers, and live performances all contain elements of Illuminati imagery. The most well recognised and accepted image of the NWO is the all seeing eye, and the pyramid of illumination. This is the image you will find on the back of a one dollar bill.

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    So do we see imagery like this by the stars I mentioned?
    Absolutely...

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    LadyGaga-PokerFace.jpg
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    madonna-illuminati.jpg?w=400&h=304
    Jay-Z-Kanye-West-Illuminati.jpg
    rihanna-rated-r-album-cover-eye-of-horus-illuminati-egyptian-devil-satan-freemason-300x297.jpg
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    There are literally tons more pics, and in a follow up post when I have a small bit more time I intend to include them.

    Then there is also the lyrics of artists, where they make direct reference to the NWO or Illuminati....

    Jay Z - D'Evils "Dear God, I wonder can you save me? Illuminati want my mind, soul and body. Dear God, I wonder can you save me? Secret society, tryin' to keep an eye on me"

    Tupac - They don't give a **** about us "Some say they expect the illuminati to take my body to sleep"

    Dr. Dre - Been there done that - "So if money is the root, I want the whole damn tree... I aint sticking around waiting with the illuminati"

    Oynx - Last Dayz - "Gather up all your arms, and get ready for this New World Order. **** about to change around here!"

    Black Eyed Peas - "We are slowly being slaughtered, get ready for this New World Order!"

    Eminem - Make Yourself - "Make me a king, as we move towards this New World Order"

    Again, just a tiny sample... there are loads more, which I hope to include in a follow up post.

    Motivations:

    Here is one part of the theory where I draw a blank. I don't see why they are doing this?

    There are a few different reasons which have been suggested to me. One is that they are conditioning people to accept the NWO with the use of this type of imagery. Another is that they like to flaunt their power by inserting symbols in plain sight. Many government agencies have the same type of images, but thats a theory for another day.

    Conclusion

    I have not reached any definite conclusions. I think that the imagery is definitely being inserted. The reason are unclear. Whether the artists themselves are simply pawns going along with it and don't know, or whether they are actively involved in including the NWO imagery is also unclear.

    I think it is an interesting topic, but don't really know what to think about it all

    References

    The best video series I have seen about it is this one. There are loads of parts to it, and it is definitely worth a watch. Some of the stuff is a bit OTT, but I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.



    Interesting Threads

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055821793&highlight=rihanna

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055654211&highlight=rihanna


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


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    Timespan:1930's to present day

    Introduction: Free energy suppression is a conspiracy theory that claims that advanced technology that would reshape current electrical generation methods is being suppressed by certain special interest groups. These groups are usually related to the oil industry, to whom current energy generation technology is profitable.

    The Conspiracy: Free energy suppression is a wide ranging conspiracy and can relate to the suppression of literal free energies that break the established laws of conservation of energy, to simply the suppression of cleaner and more efficient renewable energies. Generally, it is used to refer to purported transformative technologies which have the potential to dramatically reduce personal energy costs with relatively little capital investment.

    There have been many different possible examples of working free energy devices that have been suppressed, such as:

    Thomas Henry Moray's Moray Valve

    Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell which caused a stir in the 90s.

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    Many claim he was murdered by Oil company operatives for his work.

    One of the most famous 'types' of proposed free energy is cold fusion. This is an extremely contentious issue. One of the main proponents of it is Eugene Mallove, who wrote about it in his book fire from ice

    Mallove also died in suspicious circumstances, during a bungled robbery of his home in 2004.

    Current proponents who are still alive include Tom Bearden and Gordon Novel. Both believe that cold fusion technologies are being supressed by special interest groups. Novel claims a group called Majestic 12 (MJ12) are behind it. He also claims that he and other scientists have formed their own secret group to work on the release of free energy which has been available for over a century, called The Temporal Knights.

    Motive: If free energy was a reality, it would essentially mean the end of the capitalist system, and people could no longer profit from the supply of energy. Energy is the root of every single economic activity. It can all be traced back to energy. If this was free, there would be unlimited resources.

    Conclusions: While I am not personally convinced that pure free energy could exist, I do think that it would be in large oil companies to suppress research into more efficient energies such as cold fusion. It is a topic which interest me, and would be very interested to hear from people who know more about the topic than I do.

    Interesting Threads: There was a very interesting thread, in which our very own MahatmaCoat built and used a type of energy efficiency device called a Joe Cell, however it was moved to a different forum. Its worth a read though. http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055501288

    Discussion of this thread is located here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭fergus o brien


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    TITLE: JFK Assassination

    TIMESPAN: It seems it was in the planning as early as summer 1963 but maybe earlier ,the conspiracy to keep the truth of the assassination from the people is still ongoing.

    INTRODUCTION/SHORT SUMMARY: There are two trains of thought on the jfk assassination ,one is that jfk was killed as a result of a conspiracy with possible players such as the mob /cuban exiles/the russians/ LBJ/ the oil barons/the military industrial complex /CIA and FBI etc.
    the other train of thought is simply that a man called lee harvey oswald a loner with violent tendencies since his youth ,and a self proclaimed marxist/leninist fired 3 shots with a bolt action rifle (an italian manlicher carcano) .
    one shot missing jfks limo striking a curb stone and either a fragment of the bullet or a piece of the curb hit a man called james tague on the cheek (tague was standing beneath the near by tripple under pass by the middle lane) a second bullet passed through both jfk and governor connally (this became known as the magic bullet) and a third fatal shot hit jfk in the back of the head.

    MAIN BODY:

    MOTIVATION:
    Well it is known that JFK was going to withdraw from vietnam ,he also signed a peace treaty with russia rather than invade cuba ,he was going to shut down the CIA ,and he was going to introduce americas own dollar as opposed to the dollar which is still in use now ,in fact some of the new dollars were in circulation but quickly withdrawn after the assassination. his civil rights work is also a reason he was unpopular in certain circles.

    EVIDENCE: Researchers who have studied the 26 warren commission vollumes have found many instances where witness testimony has been altered (including that of jackie kennedy) in a way that can only be viewed as suspicious .
    a great many important witnesses were never called to give testimony (some 50 plus witnesses claimed that atleast one shot came from the grassy knoll area and none of them were called to give testimony) the commission it seems was selective in choosing its witnesses but of course some witnesses could not be ignored.
    the commission was also selective in questioning witnesses in that if a witness wanted to elaborate on what they saw (such as lee bowers ) they found that the commission lawyers quickly changed the subject or introduced a break .
    other evidence is john connallys own addmission (that he was not hit by the same shot that hit jfk in the back) also witness stated they saw two men at the sipers nest window , a man called arnold rowland saw a shooter in a different window as early as 12.15.
    the bullet fragments taken from connallys wrist and leg and a large fragment in connallys leg untill he died weighed to much to have come from the so called magic bullet ,which can only mean that atleast a fourth shot was fired ,and there is considerable evidence from the staff at parklands hospital that jfk had a wound of entry in his throath and a massive defect in the right rear of his head (which is not seen in the autopsy photographs) and evidence that the back wound had no exit point which would mean the single bullet theory is fiction.

    CONCLUSION:

    REFFERENCES:
    Here is a link to earthcam its a camera inside the snipers nest in the texas school book depository and it shows all of deally plaza live.
    http://www.earthcam.com/usa/texas/dallas/dealeyplaza/
    here is a link to the john f kennedy homepage ,here you can view warren commission witness testimony.
    http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warren/wch/index.php
    when they kill a president (by roger craig)
    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/WTKaP.html
    two men in dallas part1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyvRfeLDsB4&feature=related
    two men in dallas part2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFEx8hjD8kE&feature=related
    two men in dallas part3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hygDvRpam_w&feature=related
    two men in dallas part4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vXeg50rjs&feature=related
    two men in dallas part5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKE8gVTOuU&feature=related
    zietgeist addendum
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912#
    evidence of revision parts 1 to 6
    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/evidence-of-revision/
    oswald was a poor shot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruvhIkN2gfc&feature=related
    carolyn walthers saw two men in the snipers nest.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ZYa_nK-Gc&feature=related
    disapearing witnesses.
    http://www.maebrussell.com/Disappearing%20Witnesses/Disappearing%20Witnesses.html
    city of dallas archives .
    http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box15.htm
    video and photographs showing before/during and after the assassination
    http://www.jfkmurderphotos.bravehost.com/photos.html#_W
    here you can view more documentaries about jfk.
    http://www.artearthmann.com/conspiracyFolder/Conspiracy.html
    the witnesses to the exit wound at the rear of jfks head.
    http://www.paulseaton.com/jfk/boh/parkland_boh/parkland_wound.htm
    photographs of oswald (the so called backyard photographs) including a photograph which turned up much later with oswald cut out)
    http://www.pimall.com/nais/news/backyard.html

    INTERESTING THREADS:
    This thread is called (jfk taken out by the mob? )warning it contains some graphic pictures from the autopsy, i have posted much more info on this thread myself all though my posts are in the later pages.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055944164


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Rather late getting on board this thread. Much is which has been repeated in previous posts in the CT forum.

    The conspiracy that I believe that is right on our doorstep is the IMF / EU take over of sovereign nations and the forthcoming cashless system along with the imposed surveillance society that will inevitably be forced on all surrendering nations.

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    Since the mid 90's the ECB and powers that be have been fueling the property bubble intentionally by throwing money at developing countries like Ireland, Spain and Iceland with cheap interest rates and the minimum amount of regulation such as 100% loans knowing that the banks in these countries would one day fall into trouble and would require state intervention.

    In Ireland's situation the Government bailed out the banks only to find itself almost insolvent within two years. It was inevitable that the IMF would be called in to bail out the government and whats left of the banks. The cost of all this is the ultimate loss of sovereignty on our nation and take over of all our financial institutes by foreign powers.

    The IMF will do its best to get its pound of flesh from Ireland. What ever puppet government that will be elected by the people of Ireland in the next election the IMF / EU will now have the ultimate say in its policies.

    The more money borrowed from the IMF the more control these globalists will have. Very soon (if not already) all budgets will have to be approved by the IMF / EU.

    I believe Ireland has yet to take the big one, the tsunami, the one that the IMF is waiting for. The total collapse of the domestic home market. This is when mortgage institutes fall short of up to 1/2 a trillion in outstanding loans.

    Householders will soon walk away from their homes leaving their keys in the door, the properties only worth about 1/4 of their purchase price. This is when the IMF / EU will offer the second bail out with even stricter terms and conditions than the first. This will be the one that will help usher in the cashless society.

    Surveillance laws that were recently passed to crack down on gangland crime will now be applied to the people of Ireland to monitor tax evasion, welfare fraud. This can be done through data retention directives, GSM phone monitoring and IP tracking.

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    In the very near future NFC will be the greatest thing to hit the cashless / mobile phone market just like HD and 3D have hit television recently. Every one will want NFC. It will be pushed and even subsidized by the service providers, banks and the powers that be. With NFC there will be no more need transporting large amounts of cash, security staff will be the next group of people to be made redundant.

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    What you will not be told about NFC is that every single transaction will be monitored, logged and the location of purchase will be mapped within 15 feet by GSM cell site analysis.

    It would not surprise me if a euro wide transaction tax will be imposed on all cashless transactions. The system will know all your purchasing habits at the touch of a button.

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    Within about 4 years there will be total transparency in all our financial transactions, our internet correspondence, mobile calls, public transport movements, road travel. etc. Your PPS number will be electronically tagged and exposed with every financial transaction and movement you make.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I though I'd take a crack at this and write about my most favouritest conspiracy theory.

    Title: Lucifer Project.

    Timeframe: Failed in 2003 moved to whenever the Casini-Huygens probe ends it's mission sometime in 2017.

    Introduction: Nasa plans to turn either Saturn or Jupiter into a second sun.

    Main Body: Basically, people claim that Nasa plans to use the radioactive power supplies on space probes to ignite the gas giants in our solar system starting them to fuse hydrogen and become a small star like in the climax of Auther C Clarke's 2010.
    Space probes like Galileo and Cassini are powered by RTGs or radioisotope thermoelectric generators, which use radioactivity to heat a thermocouple, causing a current. And since it's nuclear it must go off like a bomb.
    The plan for these probes is to crash then into the hydrogen atmospheres of the planets to avoid any possible contamination of the moons.

    So nuclear explosion + hydrogen = Sun.

    Motivation: I have honestly no idea why they would want to do this. Crazy explanations run from a fake alien invasion to our lizard overlords want it hotter here, like on their homeworld.

    Evidence: None at all. Relies on total misunderstandings of physics.

    Conclusion: This simply can't happen. The RTGs simply don't have enough radioactive material (or even the right kind) to generate a chain reaction of fission and cause a nuclear explosion. Even if they did a nuclear explosion would not have any effect on the gas giants. Jupiter was hit by a comet back in '96. The impact was calculated as being equal to 600 times the power of the entire nuclear arsenal of all the countries on the planet, yet no sun. and even if a single nuclear explosion could start a fusion reaction on a gas giant , it simply would not be massive enough to sustain that reaction for any period of time, let alone long enough to become a full on star.
    The reason I like this theory so much is because of it's shear ridiculousness. It doesn't make a lick of sense on any level or for any reason. And yet still people believe it.

    References
    : http://cyberspaceorbit.com/saturn/lpnew.htm
    http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html
    http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4143


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