Burial

Scubadevils

Been meaning to say this somewhere for a while so reckon maybe a thread of its own. I bought the first burial album a few months ago and after a couple of listens loved it. I had heard from a few people who's music taste I would respect etc that his 2nd album, 'Untrue' was the better of the two. I bought that a few weeks ago and its just not happening for me - I can't get past the singing, it annoys me for some reason, a lot. Am I alone in this or should I keep listening till I get beyond this problem?!

cheesemaker

Definitely just you dude.
Burial was trying to bring more 'light' to the secound LP.
I can see how it would grate on some people though.
But its just a garage thing the Burial was trying to echo, Feminine pressurea nd all that. Todd Edwards cutting up and messing with the pitch on Rnb vocals
Its just another tool in the box for atmosphere as opposed to having any meaning to what their going on about.

Stick with it anyway and have a look at this Kode9 mix. It probably better then the album tbh.

gsparx

Not just you. Bought it on vinyl and couldn't get into that album for the same reason as you.
Never heard the first one.

electrogrimey

I'll have to check out his first album again, but Untrue is one of my favourite dance albums, and that female voice thing is definitely a garage thing, it's all over the place in garage stuff.

Scubadevils

Yeah I don't think I'll get past those vocals, they just ruin the music for me... can't quite describe what they remind me of. Good to know there's at least one more with the same problem! Just weird when I know how highly regarded the album is.

This on the other hand from the first album I love.

Southern Comfort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwUhPooIqRw

JCarey70

Have the Burial album and the South London Bouroughs EP years and still love them. Haven't heard 'Untrue' yet, but look forward to checking it out.

Always loved this track...

jtsuited

The 'r&b' vocals on untrue are great. Anyone who samples the likes of Ray J and Beyonce and makes it sound like it actually means something (which the original's don't) is doing well.

seannash

Ill admit(and probably face backlash for it) i dont rate burial at all.

I dont get it .to me it doesnt sound good and cant understand the hype that surrounds him.

SRFC90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS38JBh5gcw

Yes.

gsparx

Scubadevils wrote: »

Yeah I don't think I'll get past those vocals, they just ruin the music for me... can't quite describe what they remind me of. Good to know there's at least one more with the same problem! Just weird when I know how highly regarded the album is.

This on the other hand from the first album I love.

Southern Comfort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwUhPooIqRw

That's lovely. I'd dismissed other Burial stuff based on my feelings towards Untrue. Must have a look at that first album.

Stab*City

Im feeling everything Burial does.. And i love Untrue..

BigDaddyCan

Stab*City wrote: »

Im feeling everything Burial does.. And i love Untrue..

repped!

Android 666

BigDaddyCan wrote: »

repped!

Is that Glaswegian for raped?

BigDaddyCan

Android 666 wrote: »

Is that Glaswegian for raped?

nah meerly a cork way of say I agree! burial is the man!

g5fd6ow0hseima

I was quite surprised when I first came across this tune. It's fairly decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIqptGzkt_s

Executive Steve

I've heard people saying that about the second album all right... The whole idea behind the second album was the journey home with music ringing in your ears still and snatches of half remembered hooks and vocals still raw in your memory and fading away as you try to grasp them and recall them, and then that taken as a metaphor for moving on in your life from a period where music is as viscerally important to you as it is in your early 20's, and also as a metaphor for the decline of rave music as a new and potent force in musical culture in general; i think the way he manages to conjure up really deep feelings out of tiny snippets of vocals processed out of all recognition is masterful, but from knowing your tastes in music (dub techno, ambient, electronica) I can blatantly see why it mightn't be to your taste.

All I know is that emotionally Untrue packs a far more powerful punch for me personally than the first album (which I also adored).

As far as "is it worth it to keep listening" goes - well if you don't like it you don't like it...


Here's a CRACKING interview with the man from just around the time of the release of the first album by the way - definitely a mandatory read. He was still anonymous at the time, hence the first few questions.

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/soundboy-burial.html

(the interviewer has a label called Keysound, makes tunes as Blackdown & Dusk and recently released a superb album of garagey dubstep as well as being pretty much the pre-eminent Dubstep / Garage / Funky blogger and journalist - has a column on Pitchfork and regularly writes for Wire as well).


Few choice quotes:

When I started sending music to Kode 9 he sent me CD back all this music with glitches and crackles. And I was like ‘aw ****.’ He played me Rhythm and Sound, and told me about Basic Channel and Pole and I thought ‘**** it sounds like I’m making some kind of electronica’ and I fought so hard against that because I wanted it to be just vibes, urban, that sound I love, proper UK. No genre, just a sound.

Executive Steve

seannash wrote: »

Ill admit(and probably face backlash for it) i dont rate burial at all.

I dont get it .to me it doesnt sound good and cant understand the hype that surrounds him.

Fair enough - on the basis of what I can glean from your posts it doesn't sound like it's for you at all. There's no shame in that.

Scubadevils

Executive Steve wrote: »

I've heard people saying that about the second album all right... The whole idea behind the second album was the journey home with music ringing in your ears still and snatches of half remembered hooks and vocals still raw in your memory and fading away as you try to grasp them and recall them, and then that taken as a metaphor for moving on in your life from a period where music is as viscerally important to you as it is in your early 20's, and also as a metaphor for the decline of rave music as a new and potent force in musical culture in general; i think the way he manages to conjure up really deep feelings out of tiny snippets of vocals processed out of all recognition is masterful, but from knowing your tastes in music (dub techno, ambient, electronica) I can blatantly see why it mightn't be to your taste.

All I know is that emotionally Untrue packs a far more powerful punch for me personally than the first album (which I also adored).

As far as "is it worth it to keep listening" goes - well if you don't like it you don't like it...


Here's a CRACKING interview with the man from just around the time of the release of the first album by the way - definitely a mandatory read. He was still anonymous at the time, hence the first few questions.

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/soundboy-burial.html

(the interviewer has a label called Keysound, makes tunes as Blackdown & Dusk and recently released a superb album of garagey dubstep as well as being pretty much the pre-eminent Dubstep / Garage / Funky blogger and journalist - has a column on Pitchfork and regularly writes for Wire as well).


Few choice quotes:

Interesting points around the idea behind the album and actually worth bearing in mind when I give it another spin.

My music taste is considerably wider than dub techno, ambient and electronica so that's definitely not the reason why I might have a dislike for the album (or specifically the vocals) in question - its just the delivery and style of vocals in the case of this album that I haven't managed to warm to. It is possible that I will - Sigur Ros are actually a good example of music I loved but the made up language did my nut, I got past that and love them now. In the same respect, it's not as simple as if I don't like it, I don't like it - like many things in life, quite often music can be an acquired taste and takes a few listens before it clicks... sometimes a joint hurries that along :pac:

Anima

I like his style, its definitely different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a7SEjvhWHA

A_Fitz

Sick producer, although I think if he doesn't do something slightly different for the next LP he may face a backlash

Logical Fallacy

Weird, the interview Exec Steve posted is actually what helped me break through the issues i had with Burials sound and really start to appreciate it for what it is.

Not sure why, but i reckon i was trying to force his music to fit MY interpretation insteading of vice versa, reading about his inspirations and his motives definitely helped me to approach his stuff in a new light, find the charm and eventually fall completely in love with what he was doing.

Stab*City

Maybe its just me as i really like that ethereal, spacey sound in all my musical tastes.. but this album received huge critical acclaim so maybe its not just me:D and to think all he used to create the album was sound forge it just blows my mind.. if you dont like the album maybe give it another listen you could change your mind..

Wolf Club

Burial is brilliant, up there with the best of what Hyperdub has to offer. I prefer his first album as well, but for me the best work that he's done was the split EP with Four Tet last year

A_Fitz

Stab*City wrote: »

Maybe its just me as i really like that ethereal, spacey sound in all my musical tastes..

+1

eZe^

I prefer untrue to be honest, but both albums are absolute masterpieces. Untrue would be in my top 5 albums of all time. Amazing stuff. Loving all the work he has inspired too, you can really hear that empty space sound in the likes of Pariah, Mount Kimbie, and James Blake.

DominoDub

http://www.discogs.com/Shackleton-Three-EPs/master/189024


Shackleton is all you need end of story !

cloudydsound

i like him, his productions are crisp

hjm1293

i think Burial is one of the best electronic producers out there at the moment. what he's doing is pretty unique in my opinion. i happened to read an interview with him on a blog a while back and found some bits really interesting. really good night music, which is apparently exactly what he was aiming for. with the first record, he told his mates to go out really late and listen to it while driving around London.

eZe^

cloudydsound wrote: »

i like him, his productions are crisp

How did this slip under my radar. unreal..

jtsuited

eZe^ wrote: »

How did this slip under my radar. unreal..

same for me....first time i heard it was about 3 months ago on the 5 years of Hyperdub thingy.