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That's it I'm making my own Political Party

  • 22-10-2010 10:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭smegmar


    It's been a long time in my head but I've finally been pushed too far. (I would like to thank this thread for starting it all http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056068072)

    It will be called "Ciall Parti na hEireann" best translation I can do for :THE COMMON SENSE PARTY OF IRELAND.
    how about this for a party platform=

    Taoiseach annual pay E80,000 not the E257,000 currently,
    and similar cuts for ministers.

    Watchdog on ministers and TDs expenses

    Abolishment of water charges for domestic use+ water infrastructure investment

    Complete restructure of government decision making process

    Investment in health and education as priority.
    (abolishment of HSE and complete restructure of Irish leaving cert course and point system)

    Bi monthly televised Taoiseach address to the people
    (explaination of decisions and accountability to the people.)

    New branch of CAB to investigate banking institutions

    Legalization, within strict boundaries, of cannabis.

    Sponsored development for areas outside of Dublin

    Demolition of ghost estates and strict building and zoning regulations for new houses.

    Nationalization of Aerlingus

    Tax and spend government plan
    Proven record of reducing deficit

    We encourage co-operation with the EU but not to be absorbed and controlled by foreign governance.
    I cannot, as a human, make this perfect I need your input, your support and when I am wrong your correction. I want a strong prosperious and free Ireland where change and opportunity aren't squandered, nepotism has no place. Truth and logical sense rule supreme.

    please show your support for this effort


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    i'd vote for ya, seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Why not. Go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    smegmar wrote: »
    It's been a long time in my head but I've finally been pushed too far. (I would like to thank this thread for starting it all http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056068072)

    It will be called "Ciall Parti na hEireann" best translation I can do for :THE COMMON SENSE PARTY OF IRELAND.
    how about this for a party platform=

    Taoiseach annual pay E80,000 not the E257,000 currently,
    and similar cuts for ministers.

    Watchdog on ministers and TDs expenses

    Abolishment of water charges for domestic use+ water infrastructure investment

    Complete restructure of government decision making process

    Investment in health and education as priority.
    (abolishment of HSE and complete restructure of Irish leaving cert course and point system)

    Bi monthly televised Taoiseach address to the people
    (explaination of decisions and accountability to the people.)

    New branch of CAB to investigate banking institutions

    Legalization, within strict boundaries, of cannabis.

    Sponsored development for areas outside of Dublin

    Demolition of ghost estates and strict building and zoning regulations for new houses.

    Nationalization of Aerlingus

    Tax and spend government plan
    Proven record of reducing deficit

    We encourage co-operation with the EU but not to be absorbed and controlled by foreign governance.
    I cannot, as a human, make this perfect I need your input, your support and when I am wrong your correction. I want a strong prosperious and free Ireland where change and opportunity aren't squandered, nepotism has no place. Truth and logical sense rule supreme.

    please show your support for this effort

    I'd be quite likely to vote for a party that favoured the above. Bit curious what 'proven record' means.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Get going, you'll need to hurry to get it into the national consciousness before the next GE. I'll vote for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭smegmar


    that's 100% support so far unusual for AH, maybe this has some promise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    This thread is a breath of fresh air compared to the usual rise up crap we've been gettin.
    Go for it op, you've got a good platform here to talk to people that are sick of the current set up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    smegmar wrote: »
    that's 100% support so far unusual for AH, maybe this has some promise.

    why are you still here? you've a lot of work to do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    If you want any help PM me, I'd be happy to give a hand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Why nationalise Aer Lingus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    What side were you on during the civil war? Apparently, that makes all the difference in this country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    I like it, and would vote for you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    If there was a candidate from a new political party running in my constituency I would certainly looked at them more favorably than the current selection (provided their policies weren't completely off the wall).

    The sense of ownership of the political system by our representatives of all parties needs to be challenged.

    Good luck OP. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Well the only real opposition you have is Labour, and they have a bunch of Spoofers trying to spin every thing but cant answer the real/straight question.

    What is your thoughts on the administration side of the bottomless pit that is the HSE. thefront line services need more and the bureaucrats need Far less, how would you implement this???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    What do you feel about the croke park agreement?

    You should stick up a website with your policies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    I really would support this... If you are to take this seriously send me a PM, I believe I could help you if you're interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Awful_Bliss


    That's all well and good but where are you gonna get the budget to support all that & are you gonna be like the other parties - they promise loads but never deliver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    I was only talking to my lil sis about this yesterday, it'll be her first vote and was asking me what way I would be voting. I told her any party with F in the title was out, Green's out, labour party was never in (they tried to block equal pay in the 70's along with the trade unions), so I'm going independents and socialist. However, I'm not particularly happy about it, just seem the best of a bad lot. You, however have a very interesting manifesto, I would vote for you on the basis that we need to try something new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    That's all well and good but where are you gonna get the budget to support all that & are you gonna be like the other parties - they promise loads but never deliver.

    You start out small, get some local support and sponsorship by speaking with rich people who have the same idea's you do.

    The same way all parties started out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    A bit curious about the Aerlingus thing? I'd vote for you. Go for it.
    Bi monthly televised Taoiseach address to the people
    (explaination of decisions and accountability to the people.)

    This is one of the best points in my opinion, one of the worst things the current government is doing, that they could easily fix, is not letting the people know clearly why they make the decisions they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    you need to write up a proper party manifesto. it needs detail.

    i'm gonna say the same as others here - if you need any help, pm me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Who will be your party leader..

    Better be good looking. (reasonably)

    Project Confidence.

    Good Speaker.


    Then your quids in.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lorenzo Bewildered Composer


    Sounds reasonable to me. I hope you are serious, you have my support anyway if you are! Set up a site with your manifesto etc and get publicising.


    edit: except for the water investment abolishment. we need more, not less. we lose far too much water every year and reserve capacity is too small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    smegmar wrote: »
    It's been a long time in my head but I've finally been pushed too far. (I would like to thank this thread for starting it all http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056068072)

    It will be called "Ciall Parti na hEireann" best translation I can do for :THE COMMON SENSE PARTY OF IRELAND.
    how about this for a party platform=

    Taoiseach annual pay E80,000 not the E257,000 currently,
    and similar cuts for ministers.

    Watchdog on ministers and TDs expenses

    Abolishment of water charges for domestic use+ water infrastructure investment


    Complete restructure of government decision making process

    Investment in health and education as priority.
    (abolishment of HSE and complete restructure of Irish leaving cert course and point system)

    Bi monthly televised Taoiseach address to the people
    (explaination of decisions and accountability to the people.)

    New branch of CAB to investigate banking institutions

    Legalization, within strict boundaries, of cannabis.

    Sponsored development for areas outside of Dublin

    Demolition of ghost estates and strict building and zoning regulations for new houses.

    Nationalization of Aerlingus


    Tax and spend government plan
    Proven record of reducing deficit

    We encourage co-operation with the EU but not to be absorbed and controlled by foreign governance.
    I cannot, as a human, make this perfect I need your input, your support and when I am wrong your correction. I want a strong prosperious and free Ireland where change and opportunity aren't squandered, nepotism has no place. Truth and logical sense rule supreme.

    please show your support for this effort

    What will you do when the local authorities are unable to supply sufficient water to meet demand due to lack of investment in 5 years or so?

    Why nationalise Aer Lingus?

    What new structure of decision making are you proposing?

    Why would you demolish houses, when there is a chance with the over supply and market correction that ordinary people may actualy be able to afford to buy a home?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Yeah...destroying houses is a questionable one mate.

    You're clearly posting in jest but the amount of people who have offered their support - to someone who, let's face it could be a spotty faced leaving cert kid with a free class - just shows how desperate we are for a bit of commen sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    listermint wrote: »
    Who will be your party leader..

    Better be good looking. (reasonably)

    Project Confidence.

    Good Speaker.

    Then your quids in.

    Yes - look at Brian Cowen and Inda Kinny as examples.

    Better be good looking. (reasonably) - CHECK

    Project Confidence. - CHECK

    Good Speaker. - CHECK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    By the time the next election comes around, we'll have had 15 years of Fianna Fail. That means that the majority of the country voted them in for 3 consecutive terms, believing that they were the best thing the country had to offer. Many of these people have now changed their minds & will be voting differently next time round.

    I never believed so & never voted for them.

    But I will be at the next election. I will consider it payback to all the f*ckwits who voted for them in the last 3 elections. Yes, it's biting my nose to spite my face, but I honestly don't care. The people of Ireland deserve it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Gerry Asstrix


    Fianna Fail
    Fine Gael
    Labour
    Green Party
    Sinn Fein
    Republican Sinn Fein
    Workers Party
    Irish Republican Socialist Party
    Christian Solidarity Party
    Eirigi
    Progressive Democrats(defunct)
    32 County Sovereignty Movement
    Communist Party
    Socialist Party
    Socialist Workers Party
    Republican Network for Unity
    Pirate Party
    Libertas
    Amhran Nua
    People before Profit Alliance
    Irish peoples party

    These are all the political parties I can think of in existence at the moment, and they all shades of everything,left/right,green,blue, white, black etc
    For such a tiny island why do we need so many and why do you think we need one more, will it really make a difference???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    By the time the next election comes around, we'll have had 15 years of Fianna Fail. That means that the majority of the country voted them in for 3 consecutive terms, believing that they were the best thing the country had to offer. Many of these people have now changed their minds & will be voting differently next time round.

    I never believed so & never voted for them.

    But I will be at the next election. I will consider it payback to all the f*ckwits who voted for them in the last 3 elections. Yes, it's biting my nose to spite my face, but I honestly don't care. The people of Ireland deserve it.

    Of all the reasons for voting eFFer, this ranks as the worst by far.

    FYI, the majority of the electorate did not vote eFFer at the last 3 elections; the majority of the electorate did not vote AGAINST the eFFers. Therein lies the problem. Now, you are just going to add to it.

    OP, who are you and who did you vote for in past elections?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭PandyAndy


    Hahaha that's mad. Always joked about setting up a party and calling it the common sense party. Would even agree with yer points too.

    Fairplay to you :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Of all the reasons for voting eFFer, this ranks as the worst by far.

    FYI, the majority of the electorate did not vote eFFer at the last 3 elections; the majority of the electorate did not vote AGAINST the eFFers. Therein lies the problem. Now, you are just going to add to it.

    I wasn't actually being serious. Hell will freeze over before I ever give them my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Whats your policy on unions dude?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Fianna Fail
    Fine Gael
    Labour
    Green Party
    Sinn Fein
    Republican Sinn Fein
    Workers Party
    Irish Republican Socialist Party
    Christian Solidarity Party
    Eirigi
    Progressive Democrats(defunct)
    32 County Sovereignty Movement
    Communist Party
    Socialist Party
    Socialist Workers Party
    Republican Network for Unity
    Pirate Party
    Libertas
    Amhran Nua
    People before Profit Alliance
    Irish peoples party

    These are all the political parties I can think of in existence at the moment, and they all shades of everything,left/right,green,blue, white, black etc
    For such a tiny island why do we need so many and why do you think we need one more, will it really make a difference???

    The problem with most of Ireland's small parties is that most of them are bat-poo crazy.

    Once you filter out the nutters the list becomes very, very short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭kiad


    Dibbs on being Minister for Foreign Affairs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    The problem with most of Ireland's small parties is that most of them are bat-poo crazy.

    Once you filter out the nutters the list becomes very, very short.

    What would that list look like then, filter out the crazies! Plus how many in that list are just a front group for another on the list?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    I would be interested to hear your budget proposals OP ?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    If you're the alternative, I'll vote for FF.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    I would find it difficult to get behind someone who goes by the name 'Smegmar' on an internet forum and makes several spelling mistakes in their one-page manifesto. Just sayin'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭smegmar


    OP here

    Firstly this is NOT a joke.

    To all those who are willing and offer to help I'll contact you soon.

    it looks like any government body could do better then the current. All the present listed alternatives are to far left/right or focused on one issue for wide-spread support and give a real alternative. I'll have more for you later today and/or tommorrow, bit swamped at the minute. Everyone is more then welcome and encouraged to message me with there thoughts and what problems in the country could be fixed.

    also is anyone a professional web designer?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    flash1080 wrote: »
    If you're the alternative, I'll vote for FF.

    Great thinking there! :rolleyes:
    The least you could do is debate his ideas and offer alternatives to where you think there might be errors.
    He's as least trying to do something and offer alternative, maybe new and fresh ideas, thinking outside the box and putting himself out there.
    - What are you doing - besides one line useless posts!
    I would find it difficult to get behind someone who goes by the name 'Smegmar' on an internet forum and makes several spelling mistakes in their one-page manifesto. Just sayin'.

    Is that the best you can do to knock someones ideas?
    Dear god, with small minded thinking like that - its no wonder we are in the situation we are in if such thinking and bitchiness mentality runs rampant in our country.

    Edit: Not at go at yourself skyhighflyer - just in general at people willingness firstly and right away, to pick on the little, at the end of the day small things when they won't address themselves, the bigger picture, more important policies being suggested for public consumption.

    - Come on - We can do better than just moan about spelling people!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Nice effort OP. Think you should change your username though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Nationalise corrib through a similar system the Norweigens. Force through reforms of civil service on wastage but abolish the 'job for life' malarky

    punich clare for the cliffs of moher visitors center :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Nice effort OP. Think you should change your username though.


    To all the hilarious genius smart asses: I'm sure the OP will use his real name should he decide to get into politics, no need to tell him to change his username, I'm sure he won't be running his election from boards.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    You have my vote if I can have dibs on minister for marijuana


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    Biggins wrote: »
    Great thinking there! :rolleyes:
    The least you could do is debate his ideas and offer alternatives to where you think there might be errors.
    He's as least trying to do something and offer alternative, maybe new and fresh ideas, thinking outside the box and putting himself out there.
    - What are you doing - besides one line useless posts!



    Is that the best you can do to knock someones ideas?
    Dear god, with small minded thinking like that - its no wonder we are in the situation we are in if such thinking and bitchiness mentality runs rampant in our country.

    Edit: Not at go at yourself skyhighflyer - just in general at people willingness firstly and right away, to pick on the little, at the end of the day small things when they won't address themselves, the bigger picture, more important policies being suggested for public consumption.

    - Come on - We can do better than just moan about spelling people!

    I think the ideas range from populist bull**** to the plain bizarre, and I doubt there's any feasible plans to implement the ideas.

    It'd be nice if the leader could spell, if he wants to be taken seriously then do a spellcheck first. If someone applies for a job with a CV or cover letter with spelling mistakes, it'll usually end up in the bin. It's a stupid, careless mistake to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    You have my vote if I can have dibs on minister for marijuana

    Will you be making bimonthly televised appearances to the people too? :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    flash1080 wrote: »
    I think the ideas range from populist bull**** to the plain bizarre, and I doubt there's any feasible plans to implement the ideas.

    It'd be nice if the leader could spell, if he wants to be taken seriously then do a spellcheck first. If someone applies for a job with a CV or cover letter with spelling mistakes, it'll usually end up in the bin. It's a stupid, careless mistake to make.

    *sigh*

    This is a public random forum.
    He threw a few ideas out there. So what if he typed something as he was thinking it and there was a few errors.
    I'd rather someone be out there with genuine bad spelling with good ideas - than someone with bad ideas and perfect spelling.

    And if there is bad ideas within his post - instead of just coming across as petty, why don't you do him and us a favour - and point out where corrections need to be made regarding his policy suggestions!

    That at least would be a more constructive post from yourself - and you would be also taken more seriously too!


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