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Doom Alert: name your poison

  • 21-10-2010 10:58am
    #1
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭


    Ok we are in the shít, the question is what type of shít is it.

    Do you think it's the financial mess that will ruin us or do you think it's (manmade) climate change or the future lack of oil.

    I think it will be the lack of oil that will stuff us in the medium term after the financial disaster has screwed us.

    What is the worst crisis in the near future 49 votes

    Manmade climate change
    0% 0 votes
    Financial meltdown
    16% 8 votes
    peak oil
    18% 9 votes
    Financial meltdown followed by peak oil
    16% 8 votes
    Manmade climate change followed by peak oil
    18% 9 votes
    Financial meltdown followed by Manmade climate change
    0% 0 votes
    All of them
    0% 0 votes
    Sunshine, rainbows & lollipops
    30% 15 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    What is this I don't even


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Promac


    Pending the poll showing up - Regarding your sig dolanbaker:

    Who prints out emails? Is it such a big problem that people need this "Please don't print this email ..." thing in their signatures? I'd wager that the storing of that graphic on a server somewhere and transmitting it across the internet every time someone sends an email with that at the bottom of it or views a thread like this is costing the planet a lot more energy than printing out emails ever does.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    It's quite obvious when you think about it.

    In the year 2015 the world will go into a deep freeze after much debating about the Earths climate. That'll shut the 'experts' up and reunite them into helping the human race survive such harsh conditions. More than half the Earths oil supplies will become impossible to reach and leave Ireland in a severe position.

    Despite the attempt, experts argue and split minds into reheating the earth. Many attempted to rub two sticks together but failed. Other experts claimed that we should recreate 'that episode of Futurama where all the robots farted and moved the Earth'. One thing is for sure, we will put our lives into the hands of the wrong people. The future of the human race will fade into nothingness.

    Fortuantely, Ireland will have a trump card. A trump card that is called Mary Hearney. Fine Gael were elected in 2012 and Enda will stand tall to our nation. He will gather our finest TD's and put forward the motion of 'Hearney Energy'. Ireland will harness her gases and form heat energy from it, thus heating Ireland, and saving our beloved country.

    Unfortunately, that will be our demise. Other countries will learn of our accomplishment, and World War III will break out over claims for Mary Hearney.


    Mary Hearney will be our poison. The End


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭lucylu


    The world is to end in 2012 :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭silverspoon


    AGH I'm not even on this thing that long and I can't cope with the heavy tide of threads that make me want to fling my laptop at high speed into a wall. Can we consolidate all the fucking misery into one superthread/forum of depression and leave this space free for FORGETTING about it??? I am trying to procrastinate finishing an essay and I want AH to be a welcome distraction! Jesus!




    Since you ask, Europe will regress back to its tribal roots, modern languages will be lost and we'll all be wiping our arses with doc leaves. Is that what you want to hear?????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Robot uprising.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    I certainly ain't worried about peak oil, there doesn't seem to be much substance to any of the claims made by its proponents. When oil runs out alternatives will take its place, seems pretty simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Aw I thought this was going to be a discussion about Doom 4 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Sunshine, rainbows & lollipop, whoever ticked that is high on weed :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭kiad


    The world will end by the Large Hardon Collider


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    The coffee machine is broken


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Promac wrote: »
    Pending the poll showing up - Regarding your sig dolanbaker:

    Who prints out emails? Is it such a big problem that people need this "Please don't print this email ..." thing in their signatures? I'd wager that the storing of that graphic on a server somewhere and transmitting it across the internet every time someone sends an email with that at the bottom of it or views a thread like this is costing the planet a lot more energy than printing out emails ever does.

    I'd love to see the maths involved in working out the costs involved. :)

    PS: the sig is 6,994 bytes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    kiad wrote: »
    The world will end by the Large Hardon Collider


    :eek:

    you mean hadron


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    kiad wrote: »
    The world will end by the Large Hardon Collider

    Is that something to do with Ron Jeremy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Promac


    I'd love to see the maths involved in working out the costs involved. :)

    PS: the sig is 6,994 bytes

    Me too! It's a job for XKCD I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    none of the above. overpopulation and mass deforestation in the medium term or some virus or other in the short term possibly.

    Or just good ole nuclear war


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Promac


    Deforestation caused by private land-owners having no reason to grow trees as no-one prints emails anymore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Danger **** will kill us all.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭kiad


    CamperMan wrote: »
    :eek:

    you mean hadron

    No I did not. I meant what I typed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    CamperMan wrote: »
    Sunshine, rainbows & lollipop, whoever ticked that is high on weed :D

    em, that'd be me :o i love a toke in the afternoon


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I certainly ain't worried about peak oil, there doesn't seem to be much substance to any of the claims made by its proponents. When oil runs out alternatives will take its place, seems pretty simple.

    Care to name any?

    Too much biofuel means less land for food, no amount of wind will move every car, solar would need much of the planet's surface to provide the same amount of energy, thousands of nuclear power stations would just about do it - if there was enough (economically viable) Uranium.

    It was the limits in growth in oil supply that ultimately triggered the financial crisis, it would be fair to say it was heading for a crash anyway - but $147 a barrel was the tipping point.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kiad wrote: »
    The world will end by the Large Hardon Collider

    Isn't that a big clumsy man walking around naked in a dark brothal.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aw I thought this was going to be a discussion about Doom 4 :(

    Sure why play the game when you can have the real thing!
    If you know it's coming, you can reduce your exposure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    Where's the "artificial financial meltdown to rob government coffers followed by peak oil scare mongering to drive up the price of petrol" option?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where's the "artificial financial meltdown to rob government coffers followed by peak oil scare mongering to drive up the price of petrol" option?

    At the Anglo Irish bank and OPEC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Woah!
    What did we do!?



















    Go to code red, they're onto us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    I hate REM but "it's the end of the world as we know it."

    Why would we die from banking worries and money problems ?? It's not exactly Mad Max ! A few petrol bombs in Greece and some sulking in France is hardly the end of days described in the Bible.

    Also the oil problems are exaggerated by tree-hugging mother eath types. There's plenty in Russia and the Artic and Antartic.

    I would be more nervous of death by flu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 bigbluesky


    the war...for water


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TheUsual wrote: »

    Also the oil problems are exaggerated by tree-hugging mother eath types. There's plenty in Russia and the Artic and Antartic.
    Yes, There probably is, but it hasn't been found yet and if/when it is the difficulties in extracting it will make it very expensive.

    The problem of oil is not the quantity, it's the extraction limits that will cause the shortages. Just think back to the old M50 toll, gridlock behind the barriers and an empty road in front.

    There is plenty of oil down there, something like 9 trillion barrels, we've already taken the easiest 1 trillion out.

    The next 1 trillion is much harder to get as it is in smaller fields, deeper down, in a hostile environment, needs secondary extraction techniques to get it or a combination of all four. Any or all of these issues slows the rate of extraction, world consumption is rising and extraction rated are falling at some point in the next five years the lines will cross. The economic slowdown is moving the crossover point to 2014 from 2013 but that's only four years away, then there will be shortages (for some people).


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    bigbluesky wrote: »
    the war...for water
    Places like Saudi and India are leasing large amounts of land in Africa to grow food to save on water use at home.


    Also re peak oil / coal, saw something about bacteria converting it to methane so you can recover it as natural gas. As the price increases so will the number of ways of recovering it.

    Peak Uranium was during the 1980's depending on who you believe, something like a third of the uranium is coming from decomissioned weapons and that supply will run out soon. having said that the major cost of fuel is in it's processing so using the uranium in seawater might be an option in the future if the books can be fiddled to make it look economic.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also re peak oil / coal, saw something about bacteria converting it to methane so you can recover it as natural gas. As the price increases so will the number of ways of recovering it.
    Until the costs are so high they collapse the economy. A lower rate of extraction (say 10% of todays rate) is probably viable for several centuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    reckon one of those

    <type of madness> <type of animal> <type of disease>

    disease's will eventually live up to all the media hype and actually kill everyone

    Im gonna guess at... insane duck influenza, or perhaps irritable goldfish fever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Where is the " Zombie Apocalypse " option ?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where is the " Zombie Apocalypse " option ?
    Call Anglo Irish Bank and press 5


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Until the costs are so high they collapse the economy. A lower rate of extraction (say 10% of todays rate) is probably viable for several centuries.
    cba looking it up but extraction costs are only a few % of the final cost of a nuclear power station and the Japanese think they can use ion-exchange to extract from seawater.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Until the costs are so high they collapse the economy. A lower rate of extraction (say 10% of todays rate) is probably viable for several centuries.
    cba looking it up but extraction costs are only a few % of the final cost of a nuclear power station and the Japanese think they can use ion-exchange to extract from seawater.

    I was referring to the fact that oil could be extracted at a low rate for several centuries rather than flat out for a few decades at a rate below desired consumption. Some oil producing nations may adopt such a tactic*, produce sufficient to support local demand and just enough to exchange for necessary products & food.

    As for nuclear from sea water, yes I agree it could in theory be unlimited if the plant is correctly located.

    *Assumes a strong military.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    none of the above!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Complete guessery here, but I'll go with overpopulation causing a global food shortage, food producing countries stockpiling and those relying on imports starting civil/international wars. Countries with food might resort to nuclear weapons to stop hungry countries invading. And let's say by this stage the climate is pretty fecked up too, so the nukes cause a nuclear storm which rages around the globe and sneaks up on the well-fed countries. It catches them by surprise and rains down fiery nuclear hailstones, killing everyone. Except the nut living in a schoolbus buried underground in the hills, who it turns out was right all along.


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