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Question about Professional Services Withholding Tax and Form 11E

  • 21-10-2010 10:22am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭


    I have found the relevant section to include it, but how does it affect my Profit and Loss figures? Should it be included as part of the loss (for example, say I have made a profit of €100 this year but have also paid PSWT of €100. Does this affect my Net Profit/Loss or is it simply a credit that is not included in the Profit/Loss section?

    And on that note, can I claim it back as a refund rather than a credit? Thanks in advance.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    It's not a deduction from profit. It is available to produce a refund if that is appropriate.

    If you had a fee of €500 from which €100 was deducted for PSWT (wrong percentage I know, but it makes the sums easier) then €500 goes into your turnover. I've seen people exclude the F45s from income, and say their income was €400.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Colts


    It is a refundable credit and won't show in your profit and loss account. Your gross income should be included and then deduct the withholding tax in your income tax computation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭brophs


    Great. Thanks guys. One last question and then I'll stop pestering you.

    As it's a new business I basically made a negligible loss for the year (and have not crossed the threshold at which I would have to pay tax). Having included the PSWT in the correct area of the 11E, how do I go about getting it refunded as opposed to counted as a credit going forward?

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    It should come automatically after you file the return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Colts


    It's a refundable credit, therefore the amount will be refunded to you automatically when your return is assessed.

    Just make sure you tick the box for the section 397(?) loss claim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭brophs


    Cheers for the replies. I had a good look and couldn't find a section 'Loss claim'. Form 11E doesn't have a 397.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks again. Really appreciate this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    brophs wrote: »
    Cheers for the replies. I had a good look and couldn't find a section 'Loss claim'. Form 11E doesn't have a 397.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks again. Really appreciate this.

    Unless you have other income against which you might claim a loss - which looks unlikely given what you've said - then there's no need to be ticking any boxes.

    You've included the PSWT in your return, so Revenue will give you a credit. A credit against a nil liability is an automatic refund.

    File the return and the cheque will arrive.

    If you registered for ROS you would get the refund very much faster - often within a week of filing the return - and you wouldn't have to send in the F45s. Revenue might still ask for them later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭brophs


    Great stuff. I'll send it off in the morning. I had registered for ROS but there was a foul up with passwords/accounts and they promised to send me a new one, but I won't have a lot of time to file by the time they arrive, so I'm just going to do a paper filing this time.

    Really appreciate the help, guys. Good to know you lot are taking care of the perpetually clueless.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    You have until 16 November to file via ROS; indeed if you don't have a tax liability a surcharge based on a zero liability isn't an issue anyway.


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