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Strange deaths, murders and Suicides. Of 9/11 Witnesses

  • 21-10-2010 2:28am
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    All these people are now dead, they were connected to 9/11 or were witnesses and had opinions of 9/11 which differ from the official version. Who's bumping these people off ? Why cover up the truth ?

    LIST SO FAR
    .....

    Barry Jennings (Eyewitness to explosions and bodies inside WTC7) -- Undisclosed causes

    Kenneth Johannemann (Eyewitness to explosions inside WTC, Saw no airplanes hit but just saw "floors blow up") -- Gunshot to the head, ruled a suicide

    Beverly Eckert (Wife of 9/11 WTC Victim, Earwitness to WTC Explosion, Refused hush money) -- Airplane crash

    Prasanna Kalahasthi (Wife of 9/11 "Flight 11 Passenger") -- Suicide by hanging

    David Graham (Dentist who saw three of the 9/11 Hijackers with Pakistani businessman in Shreveport, Louisiana) -- Murdered (Poisoned with anti-freeze)

    Paul Smith (Pilot of WABC7's 9/11 "International Shot" Chopper) -- Car accident

    Michael H. Doran (9/11 Victims Lawyer) -- Airplane crash

    Bertha Champagne (Longtime babysitter for 911 Perp Marvin Bush's family) -- Crushed by a car

    Christopher Landis (Former Operations Manager for Safety Service Patrol for the Virginia Department of Transportation, Interviewed by makers of "The Pentacon", Gave makers of "The Pentacon" a photo collection, Involved in the response to the Pentagon attack) -- Suicide

    John P. O'Neill (FBI Counter-terrorism expert, Obsessed with catching Osama Bin Laden, Suspected Clinton/Bush/FBI complicity in the cover-up and protection of Bin Laden) -- Died in the WTC on 9/11

    Deborah Palfrey (Ran an escort service that had 911 Perps on it's list) -- Suicide by hanging

    David Wherley (US General who ordered fighter jets to scramble on 9/11) -- Train crash

    Un-named Ticket Agent (Boston Logan Ticket Agent who checked Atta and Alomari) -- Suicide

    Suzanne Jovin (Yale Student who had a thesis about Osama Bin Laden, Her thesis adviser was an intelligence operative) -- Murdered (Killer unknown)

    Perry Kucinich (Brother of Congressman who advocated new 9/11 investigation) -- Fell down

    Salvatore Princiotta (9/11 FDNY Firefighter from Ladder 9) -- Murdered

    Ezra Harel (Chairman of the Israeli Company That Handled Security For All 9/11 Airports) -- Heart attack

    Bruce Ivins (Patsy in the 9/11-linked "Anthrax" Case) -- Drug overdose


    The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to the family of current President George W. Bush and his father, George Herbert Walker Bush.
    John Fitzgerald Kennedy
    An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.
    Paul Wellstone
    Senator Wellstone, his wife Sheila, daughter Marcia, three of his staff and both pilots were killed when his small plane went down in Evelyth, Minnesota, on October 27, 2002. He was a vocal opponent of the Bush administration and the only real progressive in the Senate.
    Barbara Olson
    Author of "Hell to Pay" - a book critical of Hillary Clinton, killed in the Pentagon bombing. Her husband, Ted Olson, was Soliticor General in the Bush II Administration.
    Nicola Capilari
    Italian Secret Service agent murdered by America forces in Iraq trying to assassinate freed hostage and Italian reporter Giuliana Sgrena, March 2005. Sgrena was warned by her captors that the Americans would try to kill her. They were right.
    Senator Henry John Heinz III
    He chaired the three-man presidential review board that probed the Iran-contra affair. He died in a plane crash in April 1991.
    Margie Schoedinger
    Killed in December of 2003 by a gunshot wound to the head. Accused George W. Bush of raping her.
    Dr. David Kelly
    Dr Kelly was called to give evidence before the foreign affairs select committee of the British Parliament, and was the acknowledged source of the BBC for revealing that the Bush-Blair premise for the invasion of Iraq, namely the Weapons of Mass Destruction scenario, was a fraud. Kelly was founded dead of an "apparent suicide", but under suspicious circumstances, July 18, 2003, at Harrowdown Hill, 45 minutes from his home.
    Colin McMillan
    President George W. Bush's nominee to be civilian head of the Navy, "committed suicide" at his southern New Mexico ranch July 25, 2003.
    Steve Kangas
    His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away. Scaife is heavily connected to Bush I.
    Bertha Champagne
    Household servant for Marvin Bush, brother of the President, was found crushed to death by her own vehicle in a driveway in front of the Bush family home in the Alexandria section of Fairfax County on September 29, 2003. The vehicle was supposedly left in gear. No explanations have been offered as to why the vehicle did not move until Champagne was in a position to be crushed. There is a rumor that Champagne may have had incriminating knowledge of connections between the 9-11 hijackings and Marvin Bush's companies.
    Danny Casolaro
    He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush, the Mena airport drug running operation, and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, with slit wrists.
    Mark Lombardi
    He was an accomplished conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings and loan scandal, started doodling a diagram and was inspired to create a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the scandal. According to the New York Times, "He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest, malfeasance and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the day; to keep facts and sources straight, he created a handwritten database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards." On the evening of March 22, 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft.
    James Hatfield
    Mr. Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorized biography of George W. Bush. The book detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover up of a cocaine arrest. He was found dead, in a motel room.
    Darlene Novinger
    Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush.
    Bob Stevens
    Mr. Stevens died of a mysterious case of anthrax. He worked as a photo editor for American Media, who owns the National Enquirer. The Bush family suffered enormous embarrassment at the hands of the Enquirer when they published a photo of daughter Jenna Bush, obviously intoxicated, cigarette in hand, cavorting on the floor with another drunken female.
    Don C. Wiley
    Dr. Wiley disappeared November 15, 2001 in Memphis, Tennessee. He was attending a two-day annual meeting of the scientific advisory board of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. His work on deadly diseases such as ebola and HIV raised fears of a terrorist kidnapping. Four hours later, his rental car was found on a bridge, raising the question of suicide, which his family vehemently refuted. Dr. Wiley was found a month later in the Mississipi River.
    Salem bin Laden
    In 1979 Bush business Arbusto Energy obtained financing from James Bath, a close family friend. Bath had extensive ties to BCCI and the bin Laden family. Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, the brother of Osama bin Laden. It is well known in certain circles that the Arbusto money came straight from Salem bin Laden, although Bush denies it. Salem bin Laden died when for no apparent reason, he flew his airplane into power lines where it became entangled, and fell 150 feet to the ground. "He was a very experienced pilot. He was a good pilot. We just can't understand why he decided to go right instead of left," recalled airstrip owner Earl May field.
    John O'Neill
    He was Director of Counterterrorism at the New York offices of the F.B.I. until he resigned in August 2001. One of the world's top experts on Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, he grew to believe that "all the answers" regarding what they needed to destroy Al Qaeda lay in Saudi Arabia. However, starting in January 2001, Bush blocked all efforts by Mr. O'Neill to investigate Saudi ties to bin Laden. In the summer of 2001 O'Neill declared that the main obstacles to his investigation were U.S. oil interests. In late August, a frustrated O'Neill quit the FBI and took a position as head of security for the World Trade Center. On O'Neill's second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O'Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O'Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.
    Thomas Morris Jr.
    Mr. Morris was a postal worker who died October 21, 2001, of inhalation anthrax.
    Joseph Curseen
    Mr. Curseen died October 22, 2001, of inhalation anthrax. It has been reported that the anthrax infections since September 11 are of the same strain that was kept in a military facility.
    Kathy T. Nguyen
    Ms. Nguyen died on October 31, 2001, of inhalation anthrax.
    Katherine Smith
    She had been implicated in February in a phony documents scheme said to be related to the September 11 hijackers. One day before she was due in court, she was incinerated in her car after having hit a utility pole. An investigation revealed that the crash was minor and was not the cause of the fire that burned Smith beyond recognition.
    Governor Mel Carnahan
    In the midst of a heated race for the Senate against John Ashcroft, the Governor died in a plane crash on October 16, 2000. His death affected Democrats in two ways - it would hurt their chances of seizing control of the US Senate, and it would strongly impact the Presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush.
    Lori Klausutis
    Lori Klausutis, age 28, was found dead behind a desk in the offices of US Representative Joe Scarborough of Florida, a Republican, on July 20, 2001. Death was apparently due to a blow on the head. Claims that a heart condition precipitated an accidental fall are tenuous at best; Lori was a marathon runner, and one would think that a heart condition would already have become apparent. At the time of her death, she was treasurer of her chapter of the Florida Federation of Young Republicans. Tim Klausitus, Lori's husband, worked on targeting technology for missiles. Rep. Scarborough sat on both the Military Construction and the Research and Development Subcommittees. Scarborough resigned from Congress and now hosts a Cable TV show on MSNBC.
    Dan Rocco
    He died on April 1, 2002, in a plane crash in Gainesville, Georgia. He was an executive vice president at ChoicePoint, the firm that gained infamy with their faulty "felons" list supplied to Katherine Harris during the 2000 election in Florida. As a result of this list, thousands of voters (mostly African-American voters) were wrongly identified as felons and purged from the rolls.
    Florence Martin
    Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds.

    Paul Wilcher
    Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

    Olof Palme
    He was the prime minister of Sweden, assassinated in 1986. Oliver North had met with Mr. Palme to discuss the possibility of obtaining false end-user certificates for the plethora of weapons that were being purchased, so that they would seem to have come from a country other than the U.S. Mr. Palme refused to participate, after the plan was presented to him. He was dead within weeks.
    William Casey
    William Casey was CIA Director during the Reagan/Bush Administration. He died 2 days before he was to testify about his and others' involvement in the Iran/Contra scandal.
    John Shaheen
    John Shaheen was a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign, who helped set up arms negotiations with the Iranians.
    Cyrus Hashemi
    He was an Iranian banker who worked with John Shaheen, a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign. According to Hashemi's brother, Jamshid Hashemi, he arranged a meeting between William Casey and a radical Iranian mullah in July of 1980 that eventually derailed Carter's hostage negotiations and delayed the release of the 52 American hostages until January of 1981. Hashemi died suddenly in July of 1986 of what was later diagnosed as leukemia. His brother and his lawyer, William Wachtel, remain convinced that Cyrus was murdered. Richard Babayan, an Iranian in prison for securities fraud, claims that Hashemi's death was ordered by high-ranking officials.
    Amaro da Costa
    Then Defense Minister of Portugal, he died in a plane crash in Lisbon in 1980. He was planning to disclose that he had discovered documents that showed Portugese officers were helping to traffic arms to Iran.
    Sa Carneiro
    Former Prime Minister of Portugal and a very popular leader, he died in the same plane crash that killed Amaro da Costa.
    Edmond J. Safra
    Banker Edmond J. Safra died mysteriously when a fire swept his Monaco penthouse apartment. His banks had been used for laundering money by the Iran/Contra conspirators.
    Charles M. McKee and Matthew Gannon
    Charles M. McKee, ostensibly a military attache for the CIA in Beirut, Matthew Gannon, CIA Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, and three others were on board Pan Am Flight 103, which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. They were part of a counterterrorist team in Beirut investigating the possible rescue of 9 American hostages in Lebanon. The McKee team uncovered evidence that a rogue CIA unit called COREA, based in Wiesbaden, was doing business with a man called Monzer Al-Kassar, a Syrian arms dealer and drug trafficker. Al-Kassar was part of the covert network run by U.S. Lieut. Colonel Oliver North. Outraged that the COREA unit in Wiesbaden was doing business with a Syrian who had close terrorist connections and might endanger their chances of rescuing the hostages, the McKee team decided to fly back to Virginia unannounced and expose the COREA unit's secret deal with al-Kassar. They never got there. "For three years, I've had a feeling that if Chuck hadn't been on that plane, it wouldn't have been bombed," said Beulah McKee, 75, Charles McKee's mother, to Time Magazine. Four months after her son was killed for his efforts to expose the CIA, Mrs. McKee received a sympathy letter from George H. W. Bush. Mrs. McKee has never been satisfied with the government's version of events.
    Don Aronow
    He was a close friend of George H. W. Bush. According to the book "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography," there is compelling evidence to conclude that Aronow was a drug smuggler and suspected drug-money launderer. He was murdered by professional killers on February 3, 1987. In the days before his death, he made many personal calls to George H. W. Bush. Tommy Teagle, a man interviewed by author Thomas Burdick, was afraid of being murdered by Bush because he had knowledge that Aronow and Jeb Bush had been partners in cocaine trafficking.
    Frank Nugan and Michael Hand
    They were partners in the Nugan Hand Bank, a front for CIA drug money, in Sydney, Australia. Michael Hand was a Green Beret and an Army Colonel assigned to the CIA. Hand was in frequent contact with George Bush after his election to Vice President, according to CIA operative Trent Parker. Frank Nugan was found in his car on a remote road outside Sydney. There were no fingerprints on the gun. Michael Hand disappeared shortly afterwards, and has not been seen since.
    Amiram Nir
    He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.
    Senator John Tower
    He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.
    Mohammed Zia al-huk
    Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies.
    Barry Seal
    He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.
    William Colby
    This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.
    Mario Ruiz Massieu
    An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels.
    Kevin Ives and Don Henry
    Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. This controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died (see below) before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

    THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

    KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988.
    KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988.
    GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989.
    JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
    JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
    JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
    RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989.
    Lou Russell
    Lou Russell worked as a private detective for an agency that was helping George H.W. Bush, then chairman of the RNC, prepare for a press conference. It is a rumor that Lou Russell was the fabled "sixth burglar" of Watergate, the one who got away. On May 16, 1973, "Deep Throat" warned Bob Woodward that "Everyone's life is in danger." and that "electronic surveillance is going on and we had better watch it.". On May 18, Lou Russell suffered a massive heart attack that put him in Adventist Hospital, where he recovered somewhat and stayed until June 20. Russell told his daughter that he believed he had been poisoned. On July 2, two weeks after his release from the hospital, he had another "heart attack" and died.
    John Leon
    He was a friend and associate of Lou Russell. He was collecting statements about Watergate, and was to be the focus of a press conference. Leon suffered a "heart attack" and died, on the day before the conference was to be held.
    Hale Boggs, Nick Begich and Don Jonz
    Boggs sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed.
    George de Mohrenschildt
    A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Lee Harvey Oswald at the time of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry George H.W.Bush, and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush).
    Dorothy Hunt, Michelle Clark and George Collins
    In December 1972, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. Dorothy Hunt, CIA operative and wife of E. Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash, along with reporter Michelle Clark and Chicago Congressman George Collins. Charles Colson has publicly admitted he believes Dorothy Hunt was murdered.
    Jack Delaney and Ted White
    These young men were killed when pilot George H. W. Bush abandoned his plane when it was hit by enemy fire. An eyewitness to the event tells us otherwise: Chester Mierzejewski, who was the turret gunner in another plane, had an unobstructed view. He states that he saw a "puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane and quickly dissipate. He states that the plane was never on fire and that Bush never attempted a water landing, which was standard procedure, and which would have given Mr. Delaney and Mr. White a chance.
    Gary Caradori
    He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million. The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged.
    Orlando Letelier
    He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. Bush refused.
    Ronni Moffit
    She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.
    J. Clifford Baxter
    Found dead in his car, shot in the head. Mr. Baxter was vice chairman of Enron Corp. when he resigned in May 2001. Enron was the largest campaign contributor for George W. Bush.
    Charles Dana Rice
    He was the senior vice president and treasurer of El Paso Corp., an energy corporation swept up in the recent energy scandal. Two months after the "suicide" of Enron executive Clifford Baxter, in the midst of questions about the accounting practices of El Paso Corp., Charles Rice was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head.
    James Daniel Watkins
    His body was found on December 1, 2001 in the Pike National Forest in Colorado, a gunshot wound to the head. Mr. Watkins was a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron. He disappeared on November 13 after he left work. He was described as a devoted family man who always called home if he were going to be late.
    Jake Horton
    He was the senior vice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast, Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.
    Eleven million people, Jews and other ethnic and social minorities, were murdered by the Nazi regime. Prescott Bush, father of George Herbert Walker Bush, did business and made money from, and for, the Nazis.
    William S. Farish
    He was one of Prescott Bush's partners in business deals with Adolf Hitler. He was devastated by the intense grilling he received from the Senate about his dealings with Nazis, and while Prescott Bush skated free, Farish collapsed and died on November 29, 1942.
    James Forrestal
    He was Undersecretary and Secretary of the Navy during WWII, and became the first Secretary of Defense in 1947. On March 28, 1949, he was forced out of office and flown on a military plane to Jupiter Island in Florida. From there he was taken to Walter Reed Army Hospital, where he was given insulin shock treatments. He was shielded from all visitors except his estranged wife. On May 22, 1949, he was found hanging by his bathrobe cord out a sixteenth-story hospital window. His death was ruled a suicide, but results of the Army inquest were not made public.
    Karla Faye Tucker
    She was executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to spare her life. He refused. Afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, Bush mocked the woman whose death warrant he had sanctioned, pursing his lips and whimpering, "Please don't kill me!"
    David Wayne Spence
    David Wayne Spence was executed in Texas in 1997 in spite of compelling evidence of his innocence. Two of the State's witnesses were co-defendants who testified to avoid the death penalty, one of whom changed his story three times in response to discrepancies. He later testified that police officer Truman Simons encouraged him to alter his testimony. Two other witnesses for the State were jailhouse snitches who recanted later and stated that they were offered favors in exchange for testimony. All of this and more was supposedly reviewed by Governor George W. Bush, but Bush refused to commute his sentence, and did not order the Board of Pardons and Paroles to review his request for clemency.
    Gary Graham
    Gary Graham was convicted of the robbery and murder of a white man in 1981. Nearly two weeks after the crime, the state's prime witness could not pick Gary's picture out of a photo line-up. Mr. Graham was arrested with a 22 caliber pistol. The victim had been killed with a 22, but the police firearms examiner determined that Mr. Graham's gun DID NOT fire the fatal bullet. Four witnesses said Gary Graham was with them, miles away from the convenience store, when the murder occured. All four took and passed polygraph tests. George W. Bush, predictably, expressed his faith in the Texas judicial system and allowed Mr. Graham to be put to death. Mr. Graham maintained his innocence to the end.
    Lt. Colonel William Harris, Jr.
    Lt. Col. William Harris was one of two commanding officers who could not perform George W. Bush's annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Fortunately for George W. Bush, Lt. Col. Harris is not here to verify his 1973 statement. He's dead.
    Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian
    Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian was another of George W. Bush's commanding officers. He cannot testify in a court of law as to George W. Bush's dereliction of his sworn duty. Lt. Col. Killian is dead.
    And finally, Ronald Wilson Reagan. He survived an assassiantion attempt at the hand of John Hinckley, who is the son of a close friend of George H. W. Bush. Reagan is said to have ordered the military to guard him instead of the Secret Service in the aftermath of the assassination attempt. Hinckley has never been tried for the attempted murder of the President, and it is this crime which originated the phrase "The Bushy Knoll".


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    Good posts :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Interesting stuff OP and disturbing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    Ah Barry Jennings number one..when does demonspawn get back from his ban to sort this one out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    I think i remember this being brought up before but i scanned through it

    Beverly eckhert stood out because of the refused hush money
    Beverly Eckert (Wife of 9/11 WTC Victim, Earwitness to WTC Explosion, Refused hush money)

    definetly piqued my interest so i look it up.

    Its not as scandalous as the quote makes out.she refused to accept money from the fund set up to compensate people who lost family members on 9/11

    Its not hush money offered by some shady organisation.Its compensation in a way.

    didnt really want to investigate the claims any further


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Awake1


    seannash wrote: »
    I think i remember this being brought up before but i scanned through it

    Beverly eckhert stood out because of the refused hush money


    definetly piqued my interest so i look it up.

    Its not as scandalous as the quote makes out.she refused to accept money from the fund set up to compensate people who lost family members on 9/11

    Its not hush money offered by some shady organisation.Its compensation in a way.

    didnt really want to investigate the claims any further

    The one that got me was "Bertha Champagne". Marvin Bush's cleaner/carer, crushed by her own car. She left it in gear but it only accelerated when she stood in front of it ha ha. Delayed pedal reaction I suppose. Just a coinsidence though. Nothing to see here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    what's this doing in there:

    " Un-named Ticket Agent (Boston Logan Ticket Agent who checked Atta and Alomari) -- Suicide"

    you don't know who the person is, but he definitely committed suicide?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Awake1


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    what's this doing in there:

    " Un-named Ticket Agent (Boston Logan Ticket Agent who checked Atta and Alomari) -- Suicide"

    you don't know who the person is, but he definitely committed suicide?


    Figure it out retard. There aare many possible reasons his name would be protected. Try using your brain, or someone elses, use google u thick ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Awake1 banned for 3 days for abuse.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    I think i remember this being brought up before but i scanned through it

    Beverly eckhert stood out because of the refused hush money


    definetly piqued my interest so i look it up.

    Its not as scandalous as the quote makes out.she refused to accept money from the fund set up to compensate people who lost family members on 9/11

    Its not hush money offered by some shady organisation.Its compensation in a way.

    didnt really want to investigate the claims any further

    What is your definition of hush money then?

    By accepting the "compensation" they lost the right to sue the US government and airlines etc for fault through negligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    What is your definition of hush money then?
    Taking money and never talking about an issue again.this wasnt hush miney,she could have taken it and been as vocal as she wanted about what she believed happened.

    You know all the women tiger woods paid hush money to,made them sign contracts not to speak about there relationship.

    The way the term hush money is used in this instance is very misleading as it implies she was singled out for speaking against the official story and was offered money to silence her,which is untrue


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    Taking money and never talking about an issue again.this wasnt hush miney,she could have taken it and been as vocal as she wanted about what she believed happened.

    You know all the women tiger woods paid hush money to,made them sign contracts not to speak about there relationship.

    The way the term hush money is used in this instance is very misleading as it implies she was singled out for speaking against the official story and was offered money to silence her,which is untrue

    so why didn't she take it then?... If it's a simple as that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    so why didn't she take it then?... If it's a simple as that?
    Because she wants to sue them for what she believes happens.

    What you have to remember here is that she is not a special case.this money is offered to everybody.

    Its not hush money,its compensation and like any compensation if you accept ityou cant go on to further sue for the same issue.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    Awake1 wrote: »
    Figure it out retard. There aare many possible reasons his name would be protected. Try using your brain, or someone elses, use google u thick ****

    the question i was asking is how do you know an individual is dead if you don't know that person's name.
    ban is unnecessary, i have a thick skin, and if OP hasn't the opportunity to answer it kind of kills the thread until he/she is back


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    Because she wants to sue them for what she believes happens.

    What you have to remember here is that she is not a special case.this money is offered to everybody.

    Its not hush money,its compensation and like any compensation if you accept ityou cant go on to further sue for the same issue.

    Yes, meaning the case is never properly investigated. It's not compensation it's a payoff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Yes, meaning the case is never properly investigated. It's not compensation it's a payoff.
    so we see it as compensation and you guys see it as payoff to cover up a big conspiracy.

    these discussions are getting tiresome


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    so we see it as compensation and you guys see it as payoff to cover up a big conspiracy.

    these discussions are getting tiresome

    Who is this "we" and "you guys" you speak of?

    If I am not mistaken you according to yourself used to be one of "us guys" before your Saul-like conversion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Who is this "we" and "you guys" you speak of?

    If I am not mistaken you according to yourself used to be one of "us guys" before your Saul-like conversion.
    No i believed in one conspiracy theory at a time and researched it.

    But if you want to out me in that pen thats cool i dont mind admitting i was once wrong about something i believed in


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    No i believed in one conspiracy theory at a time and researched it.

    But if you want to out me in that pen thats cool i dont mind admitting i was once wrong about something i believed in

    Fascinating...

    Which ones did you accept as fact for however short a time and for what reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Carra23


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    the question i was asking is how do you know an individual is dead if you don't know that person's name.
    ban is unnecessary, i have a thick skin, and if OP hasn't the opportunity to answer it kind of kills the thread until he/she is back


    Fair lpay to you because that was some uncalled for outburst there ! Just wondering why are all these 9/11 threads popping up all over the place ? I reckon the whole thing , at some level was an inside job but why all the threads now. Am I missing something ?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Fascinating...

    Which ones did you accept as fact for however short a time and for what reason?
    even though i think your taking the piss it was the explosives in the towers theory


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seannash wrote: »
    even though i think your taking the piss it was the explosives in the towers theory

    Genuinely not taking the piss it's just that I didn't believe you then and less so now. Hope you don't take offense by that :), it's just you've demonstrated not a single trait of someone who used to be into CT's IMO.

    EDIT: Those payoffs were in 2002/ or 2003? Cant remember, but anyway explosives in the towers almost certainly means that Al Qaeda didn't take the towers down which means it was an inside job, or an state sponsored outside job with Israel easily as the prime suspect or more likely a coalition of corrupt intelligence agenciies from the US, Israel, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and beyond.


    Now baring in mind that you thought that explosives were used at some point lets take you back to this time and tell me what you would have thought of the "compensation", surely you wouldn't have concluded that it was part of the coverup?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Genuinely not taking the piss it's just that I didn't believe you then and less so now. Hope you don't take offense by that :), it's just you've demonstrated not a single trait of someone who used to be into CT's IMO.
    Well all i can say to that is that i emailed all my mates with that loose change video and was genuinely shocked about it and believed it.I actually was researching it when i came on here but didnt post(this forum is scary to an outsider)

    If by trait you mean a bit of blind faith then no i dont(not meant to cause offence just the trait i see demonstrated alot)

    I did have a life before i posted on this forum and had different beliefs about that particular issue


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Genuinely not taking the piss it's just that I didn't believe you then and less so now. Hope you don't take offense by that :), it's just you've demonstrated not a single trait of someone who used to be into CT's IMO.

    I too watched loose change when it first came out. I completely believed it. I was in shock. I thought it was so obvious and how could people have missed such an obvious inside job. I thought when you looked at all the pieces as a whole, it fitted perfectly together, from the missile at the pentagon, to the shortselling of shares the day before. I burned the DVD a few times and gave it to my friends. I showed my dad it, and he was convinced too (he still is)

    I was back in school when I saw it. I then went away for a few years, never thought about it too much to be honest. It was only a couple of years ago, that I revisited the whole thing. I began to look at the pieces as individual pieces of evidence, rather than taking in a whole narrative, and none of them stood up to scrutiny. Most, if not all, of the anomolies had coherent explanations, and the more dishonesty I saw in the 'truth' movement, the more skepitical of claims I became, to the point where now, I don't accept any of the claims until I see evidence, rather, than the other way round, of taken it as a given, and then looking for the evidence.

    The only part of the inside job that I am still undecided on, is that the intelligence services had foreknowledge of the attacks at some level. I don't know if the warnings were ignored through malice, or negligence though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    yekahs wrote: »
    The only part of the inside job that I am still undecided on, is that the intelligence services had foreknowledge of the attacks at some level. I don't know if the warnings were ignored through malice, or negligence though.
    this is what i think too although the level of malice isnt as high as some people would believe for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    seannash wrote: »
    this is what i think too although the level of malice isnt as high as some people would believe for me


    Me too but those buildings ,I believe were rigged to come down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    I'm wonder what the actual connections are here. I've personally known people that have died in a plane crash, died in a car crash, committed suicide, were murdered. And I don't know that many people really so I'm not seeing the problem.

    Not to mention the wording of many of these presents some sort of mystery but I've looked up a number of them and there seems to be very little mystery in reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Awake1 wrote: »

    Perry Kucinich (Brother of Congressman who advocated new 9/11 investigation) -- Fell down

    I'm not quite sure why this made me laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I'm not quite sure why this made me laugh.

    I wonder was it explosives or thermite?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    You could add the chap who's father died on 9/11, his dad was a fireman and the son founded We Are Change. He died in his 20's of a heart attack if I remember correctly. Maybe someone has his name?


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