bag limits

Alchemist2

Im not a member of a gunclub but i do have my own ethics and when i shoot 4 birds i head home although its only happened once or twice in mmm 15 yrs:D or so.. what are the bag limits set out if any by clubs or is it just a free for all?

homerhop

We put a 3 bird bag limit on club lands, as we were all working there is a sat/sunday shooting rule and fully open christmas week. that way every member gets a fair run at things. I could never understand a free for all policy neighbouring clubs have, when you see some individuals shooting every day of the week and as many birds as they can and come half way through the season they complain of no birds!!

bunny shooter

What I find is there are those who will obey bag limits & rules and there are those who don't.

shootingkid

1 of the clubs im in has a free for all, well at least i think never anythin said bout limits and the other is a 2 bag limit witch i strongy agree with.

greenpeter

3 birds per bag
but you can bring a few bags:p
I think 3 birds is plenty in one day?

All clubs have people who don't work by rules, it will never change

snipe02

was at the club meeting the other night the subject came up again. its on the club card that there is a 3 bird bag limit and members must swap bags when they meet as an act of courtasy . what a lovely concept but as it goes nobody is willing apart from the usual 1 or 2 . 3 birds of any species should be enough for any body but some lads are just plain old greedy i met one lad last year who shot eight cock pheasants on the first of nov where is the sense and logic in this is i believe there should be a national bag limit for every species or some day there might be nothing left worth shooting well at least nothing wild enough

Birdnuts

snipe02 wrote: »

was at the club meeting the other night the subject came up again. its on the club card that there is a 3 bird bag limit and members must swap bags when they meet as an act of courtasy . what a lovely concept but as it goes nobody is willing apart from the usual 1 or 2 . 3 birds of any species should be enough for any body but some lads are just plain old greedy i met one lad last year who shot eight cock pheasants on the first of nov where is the sense and logic in this is i believe there should be a national bag limit for every species or some day there might be nothing left worth shooting well at least nothing wild enough

Well said - we don't want to go down the road of certain countries in Southern Europe where hunting has become merely an excuse to massacre everything that moves - indeed I don't consider such people hunters in the Irish sense, merely thugs with guns as is the situation in places like Malta and parts of Italy:(

mightyabhabelle

emmhh.. no limits, 3 bag limits, how do you come up with these.

I was introduced to fishing and shooting by my uncles. They had a few simple rules... never kill more than you will eat.. so that was 2 salmon, 3 trout or 2 birds. They also only ever shoot with a single barrel and fished with barbless hooks on the fly. The reason is that a real Game bird or fish should have an equal chance as you the hunter... one shoot... if you missed... the bird was deemed a game bird and lived to fight another day. Same with the fish. You had to be the better hunter... outplay the salmon and keep the lines tight, stay steady on the bird and make the shot count.

Now needless to say I have a double barrel, but 2 birds are enough in any days hunting. We should be conservating and preserving the wild life and encouraging it to take root...for the years to some and for something to pass on and not out with a triple hook or a pump action.

All in my humble opinion... M

homerhop

Ah but not everyone thinks of things in the same way, I pinch the barbs on all my fishing hooks and have done so for years and there are days that both myself and the guy I shoot with might as well left the guns at home as we spent the time walking and talking watching the dogs work more so than anything.
The problem arises when there are those who are not happy with one or 2 birds. I know lads who start shooting as soon as sunrise comes and finishes at sunset, they keep five or six dogs in their trailor and bring out a fresh one every few hours. I have also had to deal with complaints in the club where lads are parked at the head of a laneway gearing up while another member wil shoot past them in their car so they can get to the shooting first. Human greed is a terrible thing and it ****s it up for the lads trying to do things right.

cavan shooter

It comes up all the time and the clubs that I am in have the following
2 bird except open day and stephens day an other club Im in its 3 birds except open day.

My own would be the above as a minimum but then if a small pheasant gets up or on the other hand a very big one (especially towards the end of the season), I have no problem putting down the gun (must say I have gotten fierce dirty looks from the dog:()

I hate the attitude of "If I dont get it someone else will":mad: It is rampant

mightyabhabelle

so slightly digressing a bit... how do clubs out there manage their birds... not as in how do you keep the missus from blowing all the money.. more like pheasants as a stock item :-)

Do all clubs tag the birds each year and do you find this usefull in monitoring numbers.
Do all members report what they shot and/or hand tags in.
How do you account for road kills and foxes and what allowances do you make for these when ordering birds.

I heard that in an experiment it was found that 50% of the birds released actually get hammered by the foxes. Just wondering did anyone else find this.

I thing that this all relates back into bag numbers and managing what people shoot.

just curious... M

mallards

I work on a 30% return. So if myself and my buddy wanted 30 birds between us I would release 100. 35 for the fox, 35 to stray to the next county, 10 to die of natural cause, 10 to survive to breed next year and 5 for the birds of prey........:eek: Damn, so that's why my freezers always empty!!

Mallards

dicky82

mallards wrote: »

I work on a 30% return. So if myself and my buddy wanted 30 birds between us I would release 100. 35 for the fox, 35 to stray to the next county, 10 to die of natural cause, 10 to survive to breed next year and 5 for the birds of prey........:eek: Damn, so that's why my freezers always empty!!

Mallards

and wallet:rolleyes:

homerhop

We were advised starting out that a 40% return would be a good season.

mightyabhabelle

ah so if its a game of percentages and you shoot say 1 out of every 2 birds with 30 left to shoot...then that just about makes me slighty above average with 16 birds

So I suppose the plan would be to bring the ratios down... hammer the foxes in the off season, ring fence the county with 10ft chicken wire, provide virgra for the lucky 10 left to breed so they can hammer more at it, open a restbit home for the sick birds, (probably in one of the hospitals the Gov will close)... so that leaves 5 for the birds of prey...nope cant touch them... and assuming we can shoot the sick birds when they cover in restbite... with maybe one dying there... that leaves 94 birds out of 100... so saying I should 1 out of every 2 still... thats 47 birds in a season... and makes me top gun... pure genius

.... must get to work... anyone know where foxhunter is ;-) -M