G&G vs SRC:)

Nonamigo

Need your help lads again:)
I have a choice of 2 M4 to buy: first one is made by G&G and second one is made by SRC. Both full metal, looks very similar to each other just the G&G costs 60 bobs more which is not a big deal:)
Well I was quite sure on getting the SRC one until some time ago when I read a lot of bad things about SRC, well people's opinion was based on SRC first guns and the post was back in 2005:)
So, anyway, tell me your opinions, please.
Two guns are: G&G GR 15 full metal
SRC M4 C.Q.B R.I.S full metal.
And no, I don't need to compare them two:) I just want to hear an advice on SRC one, whether it's good or not. And is it on the same level as G&G one:)
thanks a bunch in advance!

thermo

i would go with the G&G every time they are virtually bulletproof, and they are excellent bits of kit straight from the box!

Nonamigo

yeah i know a lot of good stuff about G&G.
What about SRC?

Gatling

M4 wise id go with the G&G or there armalite variants ,

SRC id highly recommend there G36 AND M8 series ,

alot of reviews of SRC aegs are fairly old the thing to look for with SRC is what gen your buying

Gen 1 -scary bad

Gen 2 -big improvement but still lacking

Gen 3-major improvements and highly regarded

G&G great aegs all round from beginners to hardcore players only ever have issues with first batch of new designs and the odd time motor issuse's but very reliable and highly recommended

thermo

Nonamigo wrote: »

yeah i know a lot of good stuff about G&G.
What about SRC?

any of the src's ive used would not be up to the G&G level performance wise, and are a bit more difficult to work on.

DeBurca

I would take the G&G every time I have had a total of 4 of them including 3 raiders
I have had both the long and the short raider in ABS and currently have the long raider in metal
Internally they are some of the best finished gearbox that you will find for the money

I have worked on 2 SRC and have to say that the inside of the gearbox was better then the average that you find in most clone AEGs, very well finished and good quality components and metal bushings as standard + they were properly shimmed and not overly greased

Villafan6

G&G all the way i've had a few and they never seem to fail.

Nonamigo

thanks a lot for help. Seems G&G is the way to go. But it looks like i will have a hard time trying to find one full metal here:(

NakedDex

The main reason for that is that most people are happy enough to get the plastic one for the cheap price. There aren't many people willing to spend €300+ for an AEG anymore, since everyone got spoiled on the clone market and are still adjusting to it's loss (I'm making it sound like a death in the family...). Because of this, most shops don't carry a big stock of the high ends, but they'll happily order in what you want pretty rapidly.

Stercus Accidit

DeBurca wrote: »

I would take the G&G every time I have had a total of 4 of them including 3 raiders
I have had both the long and the short raider in ABS and currently have the long raider in metal
Internally they are some of the best finished gearbox that you will find for the money

I have worked on 2 SRC and have to say that the inside of the gearbox was better then the average that you find in most clone AEGs, very well finished and good quality components and metal bushings as standard + they were properly shimmed and not overly greased

SRC aren't really cloners, they make several of their guns better than any rivals, were the first to do stamped steel MP5's for example.

Villafan6

http://www.strikearms.com/page2.htm

The Colt M4 CQBR (second) is a cybergun but cybergun just re brand guns and I know that one was made by G&G, and I own one so I can personally say there great.

senordingdong

NakedDex wrote: »

The main reason for that is that most people are happy enough to get the plastic one for the cheap price. There aren't many people willing to spend €300+ for an AEG anymore, since everyone got spoiled on the clone market and are still adjusting to it's loss (I'm making it sound like a death in the family...). Because of this, most shops don't carry a big stock of the high ends, but they'll happily order in what you want pretty rapidly.

I've been airsofting for over two years...I think....and this is something that I could never get my head around.

Why would anybody want to buy a cheap (anything), knowing the huge possibility that it will fail on you, you will have to spend a fortune constantly repairing and/or upgrading it, and then if you decided to flog it, it wouldn't be worth a ****.

Just pay the extra few quid and get a reliable piece of kit.

Shiva

Villafan6 wrote: »

http://www.strikearms.com/page2.htm

The Colt M4 CQBR (second) is a cybergun but cybergun just re brand guns and I know that one was made by G&G, and I own one so I can personally say there great.

Thats not G&G....its Kalash/DBoys.

NakedDex

senordingdong wrote: »

I've been airsofting for over two years...I think....and this is something that I could never get my head around.

Why would anybody want to buy a cheap (anything), knowing the huge possibility that it will fail on you, you will have to spend a fortune constantly repairing and/or upgrading it, and then if you decided to flog it, it wouldn't be worth a ****.

Just pay the extra few quid and get a reliable piece of kit.

It's not that big a chance of failure really. Generally you're paying extra for the fit and finish, not the reliability. Take that Raider for example, the high-end, metal bodied version is €350, while it's plastic body counterpart is €250. They perform essentially the same, the gearboxes are pretty similar and the hop performance is no different, but that extra €100 is going into the metal body, and detail on it with markings etc.

For those starting out, or those who don't care about trademarks etc, that extra €100 could pay for appropriate magazines, battery packs, sights, slings etc. That's more important to most beginners than accurate bodies, especially given the performance difference is slight.

senordingdong

NakedDex wrote: »

It's not that big a chance of failure really. Generally you're paying extra for the fit and finish, not the reliability. Take that Raider for example, the high-end, metal bodied version is €350, while it's plastic body counterpart is €250. They perform essentially the same, the gearboxes are pretty similar and the hop performance is no different, but that extra €100 is going into the metal body, and detail on it with markings etc.

For those starting out, or those who don't care about trademarks etc, that extra €100 could pay for appropriate magazines, battery packs, sights, slings etc. That's more important to most beginners than accurate bodies, especially given the performance difference is slight.

Hmmm....I dunno, every game I've attended, all around me, I constantly see clones failing and/or breaking.
Just my experience though.

NakedDex

To be fair, that's not exclusive to clones. I've seen them go to fail state more often than high ends too, but then I've seen more clones being used than high ends too.

Compare it to cars, it's obvious a Porsche is going to outperform a Volkswagen, but the latter will be more common. If you look at the AA break down listings, you'll see more Volkswagens than Porsches that needed assistance. That doesn't mean they're less reliable, just that you're more likely to encounter one in a fail state.

It's up to the user, more than anything. Some people treat their equipment well, and service it regularly. Others will run it into the ground and then moan when it breaks. It doesn't matter if they bought a €100 Galaxy or a €1000 Inokatsu, it's life depends on the owner.