Guardian's List Of Best Films

ValJester

I can't help feeling this is a tad ridiculous.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/oct/16/greatest-films-of-all-time

A best crime list which tries to get away with omitting LA Confidential,City Of God and Dog Day Afternoon is off to a bad start.

Nolanger

Usual bias to overrated recent American movies.

me-skywalker

Romance - Wall- E

Decuc500

Nolanger wrote: »

Usual bias to overrated recent American movies.

Really?

In the crime list the most recent American movies are Heat and Pulp Fiction, both at least 15 years old. The most recent movies are A Prophet and Hidden, both distinctly not American.

Nolanger

Yes really. Select stuff from the last few decades and list a few older titles to fill the gaps! Any serious film list would rate the original Scarface (1931) over the '80s version!

distraction

to be expected, it is the Guardian's list after all

Galvasean

Pfft, there's no such thing as a viable 'greatest movies' list.

Skerries

this list is no.21 in the comedy section

Sanjuro

Borat is better than Dr. Strangelove?! Insta-fail.

mikhail

Sanjuro wrote: »

Borat is better than Dr. Strangelove?! Insta-fail.

The only line in Borat which is comparable to Strangelove is when Borat announces to a large audience (the rodeo?), "We support your war of terror." But yes, list must be compile by Bilo.

purple_hatstand

Separating films by genre is problematic at best and laughable at worst. The 'Crime' and 'Comedy' lists were at least coherent (if a little predictable) but yesterday's 'Action' category was weird and wrong in far too many ways and contained war films, westerns and 'Ran'...which should have been in 'Arthouse'. Except 'Arthouse' isn't a genre; it's a place for the guardian to put films which overflow from other categories and/or ones which fewer people have seen (oh, and 'The Godfather'?).

Maybe tomorrow's 'SciFi' will be better.

WadeTalon

The Conversation is listed in the Crime genre!!!! Its a thriller for ****s sake, A thriller about Paranoia and wire taping ...did these ****tards even watch these movies or are they just googling them.

Also not a sniff of Terminator 2 in the Action genre, they will probably list it as sci fi.

MisterAnarchy

Those lists are a joke.
Notable mentions go to :
Planet of the Apes (2001) version is at no 16 in the Sci Fi list
That film was rubbish .
Borat at number 2 in comedy and Team America at no 4 ,someone is having a laugh.
Hidden at no 10 in Crime (Film is garbage)
Ridiculous attempt at a list.

purple_hatstand

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Those lists are a joke.
Notable mentions go to :
Planet of the Apes (2001) version is at no 16 in the Sci Fi list
That film was rubbish .
Borat at number 2 in comedy and Team America at no 4 ,someone is having a laugh.
Hidden at no 10 in Crime (Film is garbage)
Ridiculous attempt at a list.

It's definitely the original version of POTA which features on the list. They even make reference to how bad Burton's remake is...

purple_hatstand

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Those lists are a joke.
Notable mentions go to :
Planet of the Apes (2001) version is at no 16 in the Sci Fi list
That film was rubbish .
Borat at number 2 in comedy and Team America at no 4 ,someone is having a laugh.
Hidden at no 10 in Crime (Film is garbage)
Ridiculous attempt at a list.

I laughed at both:D;)

Phony Scott

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Planet of the Apes (2001) version is at no 16 in the Sci Fi list

That has to be a misprint, granted, a huge misprint, but a misprint none the less. An awful remake of a brilliant original. Solaris (the inferior remake) is another one I have to balk at. I hate it when they count two or more films in a top list. There's no objection about having Terminator 1 or 2 on the list, but don't count them as one and the same thing. Lord of the Rings is pretty debatable as well, though I guess it counts as a continuous story (though I still think the third one is deeply flawed).

Ellian

Picking the American remake of Solaris over the Tarkovsky original was when I stopped reading the list.

WadeTalon

purple_hatstand wrote: »

It's definitely the original version of POTA which features on the list. They even make reference to how bad Burton's remake is...

then its a typo on the list as they have the 2001 burton version listed at Number 16


They have also listed Peter Jacksons King Kong above the first two Terminator films! , it is all laughable.

a very bad list of movies from people who claim to be film experts.

purple_hatstand

WadeTalon wrote: »

then its a typo on the list as they have the 2001 burton version listed at Number 16


They have also listed Peter Jacksons King Kong above the first two Terminator films! , it is all laughable.

a very bad list of movies from people who claim to be film experts.

er, no...

Here is the list

It may not be a perfect list, but let's at least make sure we're all looking at the same list!

WadeTalon

purple_hatstand wrote: »

er, no...

Here is the list

It may not be a perfect list, but let's at least make sure we're all looking at the same list!

this is the list from the start of this thread

Guardian top 250 movies list by genre


and it has since been edited to include the 1968 POTA and not the Burton version, but the Burton was originally listed

purple_hatstand

I just read through some comments on the guardian's blog and it seems they had a gremlin or three in their system for a while this morning. Seems to have been sorted now, though. Solid enough (if, again, predictable) choices imo.

Nolanger

Where's their top ten list of silent musicals?

The Guardian best of lists are generally self-indulgent, pretentious and simply exist for the writers to show how different they are. For years the Guardian proclaimed that the Wire was the greatest TV show of all time, over and over again they printed that statement and yet when they put together their top 50 television dramas of all time the Wire was in 14th place. Yes this is the same newspaper which reprinted and marketed a book called "The Wire Re-up: The Guardian guide to the greatest TV show ever made".

skelliser

North by northwest is a thriller not an action flick!!

If you cant get the categories right then don't bother compiling a greatest list!

Nolanger

They have Once upon a time in the West in the Action category too!

johnny_ultimate

How I despise labelling things by genre!

'Arthouse and drama?". Bah to you, the Guardian!

ValJester

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

How I despise labelling things by genre!

'Arthouse and drama?". Bah to you, the Guardian!

I'm sure The Way We Were and Terms Of Endearment were a big hit with the arthouse crowds of the day.