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Saw 3D

  • 15-10-2010 8:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭


    If it's Halloween, it must be (unfortunately) Saw!!

    The final installment in the series. I loved the first and second movies but it's just gone rapidly downhill after that. Glad they're finally putting a lid on it....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    If they pull this off, it might just work. As long as it's not too gimmicky with the 3D effects.

    I'll probably go and see, purely because although Saw was never an amazing series, the gore was always good for a giggle (it didn't creep me out half as much as it probably should have).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The still image in that youtube embed is a saw blade coming out of the screen.

    That's perhaps the most literal title image I've ever seen, and deeply deeply discouraging.

    I got watched four of these films. Fool me four times, but they're not getting a fifth time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    It is just more pointy pointy 3D rubbish.

    I shall wait for the 2D version. I shall not patronise a cinema showing this in 3D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Is this the 5th or 6th one?

    Dont see how the 3D will help the story but studios just want to prevent piracy with the effect these days.

    If you have a good script, you dont need 3D is my rule of thumb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    This is the 7th one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    Haddockman wrote: »
    I shall wait for the 2D version. I shall not patronise a cinema showing this in 3D.

    Likewise. Piranha 3D was the last straw for me. That film was unwatchable in 3D...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Did I just see Chester from linkin park in that trailer?

    I would go see it to get him hacked to pieces with a saw tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Haddockman wrote: »
    This is the 7th one.

    ROFL

    Didnt they not say they'd stop after 3 or 4 or something??

    Its nearly a sin in hollywood to have an original idea because either the studio or their rivals will milk it for all its worth until they are making losses. That or it gets a mega million reboot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Dempsey wrote: »
    ROFL

    Didnt they not say they'd stop after 3 or 4 or something??

    Its nearly a sin in hollywood to have an original idea because either the studio or their rivals will milk it for all its worth until they are making losses. That or it gets a mega million reboot

    The last one made a profit of 50+ million, And I think they've made over 700 million profit so far.

    With this being 3D, I can see a bigger profit off this movie than the last 2 put together tbh as it only has a budget of 17 million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    The last one made a profit of 50+ million, And I think they've made over 700 million profit so far.

    With this being 3D, I can see a bigger profit off this movie than the last 2 put together tbh as it only has a budget of 17 million

    I've watched better films that posted losses tbh (I thought 1 & 2 were good, saw them in the cinema, but the rest were poor)

    Just had a quick glance at the budgets and box office grosses, its obscene alright for a franchise that became very unoriginal very quickly. Surprised at the numbers tbh, lowest profit was on Saw 6 as you say, only took ~$53m profit at the box office :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Dempsey wrote: »
    I've watched better films that posted losses tbh (I thought 1 & 2 were good, saw them in the cinema, but the rest were poor)

    Just had a quick glance at the budgets and box office grosses, its obscene alright for a franchise that became very unoriginal very quickly. Surprised at the numbers tbh, lowest profit was on Saw 6 as you say, only took ~$53m profit at the box office :eek:

    I don't understand how something so stale could make 53 million profit, it's kind of awesome in a horrible way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Hostel 3D in 3...2...1...:rolleyes:

    There's obviously an audience for this kind of thing though so you can't blame the studios totally. The cinema goers are the reason the last 5 got made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Goldstein wrote: »
    Hostel 3D in 3...2...1...:rolleyes:

    There's obviously an audience for this kind of thing though so you can't blame the studios totally. The cinema goers are the reason the last 5 got made.

    Cant wait for Saw 7 but will wait for dvd :( I LOVE the Saw shenanigans lol..We have the whole lot and regularly have a Sawfest nite in. (We're the other side of 40!)

    HOSTEL in 3D.. I'd LOVE it..We even hit cesky krumlov (spelling) for our hols..in a hostel :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Did I just see Chester from linkin park in that trailer?

    I would go see it to get him hacked to pieces with a saw tbh.

    It is indeed, and I thought the exact same thing!:pac:


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no problem with the Saw franchise continuing for another decade. Theyre cheap to make and easily turn a profit and while people will routinely complain about how unoriginal and stale it is while moaning about how many original films fail miserably, they seem to forget that were it not for Saw 6 posting a 50 million profit that the smaller, riskier film would never have been made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I dunno why the OP would start a thread about a film he doesn't want to see but... :rolleyes:

    Nobody's forcing you to watch the film; obviously a lot of people still enjoy the product they put out. Darko makes an excellent point above.

    By the way...
    “Before we thought it was ending [with Saw 3D], the writers came up with an unbelievable idea [for Saw 8]. It’s an amazing story that I would love to see… We want to end near the top, with our integrity in tact and not letting the characters die a slow death, so to speak. But I believe in my heart that someday, somehow, [Saw 8] will happen.”

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I dunno why the OP would start a thread about a film he doesn't want to see but... :rolleyes:

    Nobody's forcing you to watch the film; obviously a lot of people still enjoy the product they put out. Darko makes an excellent point above.


    :pac:

    Eh hold the phone there sonny boy, I do want to see it!:cool: I was a huge fan of the early ones and have continued to follow the series as it has dis-improved. LOST turned absolutely ridiculous in the last few season but I didn't want to stop watching it just because it did, it's the same with Saw, I want to see how it ends out.

    And in response to the post above, yes it did turn in a profit of €50 million, which is just about half of what the previous installment made, and it's an increasing trend of its box office failure, as expressed by co-creator Patrick Melton


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I love these movies, I have gone to the cinema every year for to see them. I'm gutted this is the last one. I read last year on wiki they had already gotten approval for two more. Gutted. Saw is original. love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    Gotta agree with others here: If you don't like it, don't go see it. Yes they arent the greatest movies ever made, but the studio/fiim-makers are obviously making a nice profit from the Saw franchise. Myself, i will prob go see this some time when i'm bored and nothing else is on. The fact that Dr. Gordon is back makes me slightly curious as to how it will turn out (just once it doesnt turn out that this movie is actually happening at the same time Saw 1 takes place, and at the end we see Gordon
    escape the room after sawing off his leg.
    After all, they did that with Saw 4 i think. At the end it was revealed to be taking place the same time as Saw 3.


    Oh and that was Linkin Parks Chester Bennington too. :eek: He seems to have a main part too going by the trailer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Saw IV and V were abysmal but the last one, Saw VI, was actually pretty decent, i was shocked by the sharp increase in quality.

    I gave brief reviews of Saw IV, V, and VI respectively....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Ah its a guilty pleasure. Switch off the brain forget the world outside and the pains and worries and grab a bucket of popcorn and enjoy some strung together death sequences all in the name of art eh hah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Alternate trailer;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭jos22


    saw 3D is another movie that should be in 2D. little or no 3D effects besides the minor gimmicks every now and then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Mrpaddy03


    Well it making money no matter what! they even have a ride for it over in the UK.
    Any know any thing about this film http://harshlightofday.com/. Interested to see who made it and for how much.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭jos22


    Mrpaddy03 wrote: »
    Well it making money no matter what! they even have a ride for it over in the UK.
    Any know any thing about this film http://harshlightofday.com/. Interested to see who made it and for how much.:p

    for the harsh light of day see
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1493858/

    saw 3D was fine other than the crap 3D usual run of the mill
    more of 16 than a 18's the censors tend to over rated these movies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    jos22 wrote: »
    for the harsh light of day see
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1493858/

    saw 3D was fine other than the crap 3D usual run of the mill
    more of 16 than a 18's the censors tend to over rated these movies

    What? A saw movie that shouldn't be 18s?

    Doesn't sound like a saw movie to me :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭jos22


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    What? A saw movie that shouldn't be 18s?

    Doesn't sound like a saw movie to me :(

    saw 6 was rated 16 here for its cinema release and 18 for the so called extreme dvd/blu.

    that said I might have just become so used to horror movies that they all seem tame to me now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    Looking forward to it, Saw VI wasn't half (convoluted) bad at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Crap 3D, crap story, pretty much horrendous time. Spent most time laughing at how ridiculous it was, although I am quite squeamish so don't like the killing moments. The suspense is gone though. Cant believe Chester Bennington is in it....is it supposed to reflect his career as of late:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,077 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I'm currently visiting friends in the UK and was persuaded to go and see this earlier today. Not only have I never seen any of the earlier SAW films, this was my first 3D film. I came away with the impression that it was little more than an excuse for a sequence of gruesome deaths with a threadbare, slightly moralistic storyline tacked on as an attempt to justify the murderer's actions.
    A woman says something racist, so she deserves to have a car do a burnout on her face?

    Funnily enough, I thought most of the 3D was fine when it was subtle - e.g. slow camera moves were tracking accurately, and backgrounds were often in focus - but then they went and spoiled it with CGI bits flying at your face. I don't think a film like this even needs to exist in 2D, so arguments over the merits of 3D here are a little beyond me at this point. :cool:
    Based on the ending, I will be surprised if this really is the last SAW film - even if everyone's saying so at this time.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    An absolute disaster of a film, the acting was incredibly bad, that guy who played gibson was awful. The dialogoe was cliched too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭2ygb4cmqetsjhx


    Saw it last night. Thought the 3D effects were quite good. I forgot I was even watching a 3D but at the same time was fully aware of it.

    If you like Saw you will like this. I enjoyed it. Thought it was slightly less gory than other saw movies(I thought saw 6 was much worse for gore. Also the story of this saw is very understandable and much easier to follow than say saw4 and saw5. Mainly due to the story being told linearly.

    I've a question though.
    What was the significance of the first trap in the movie with the two men sawing through the girl.
    It went way over my head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Saw it last night. Thought the 3D effects were quite good. I forgot I was even watching a 3D but at the same time was fully aware of it.

    If you like Saw you will like this. I enjoyed it. Thought it was slightly less gory than other saw movies(I thought saw 6 was much worse for gore. Also the story of this saw is very understandable and much easier to follow than say saw4 and saw5. Mainly due to the story being told linearly.

    I've a question though.
    What was the significance of the first trap in the movie with the two men sawing through the girl.
    It went way over my head!

    Don't think there is a significance, its just an excuse to create some gore early on. Although maybe its
    that it was in front of the public, so people lot more aware, making the lads survival story more widespread/acknowledged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Just saw in the paper today, 1/10, lol so no more Saw movies ever again! hopefully, hated all of them except 2 and 4 (i think) and they were okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    As someone who has seen the last 6 on cinema release (and along with everyone else, thought 4 and 5 were terrible), I thought this was pretty OK. It gave pretty satisfying closure to the heptalogy and really did bring everything full circle in the way it dealt with everyone involved.
    The doctor angle was pretty clever too, actually.

    Interesting to see if they reboot/reprise in a few years à la Scream 4.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Ah its a guilty pleasure. Switch off the brain forget the world outside and the pains and worries and grab a bucket of popcorn and enjoy some strung together death sequences all in the name of art eh hah

    I wouldn't say switch off the brain, I find it quite tricky to keep up with the plots. Maybe I'm just slow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Liked it, perfect amount of gore and death tbh.

    The one I did find tame though was the
    hanging, odd for a saw movie to have wasted a chance at a good death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    Just back from the cinema from watching this. And as a Saw fan experiencing 3D for the first time, I really liked it. The 3D was great (although the one-on-one dialogue where you see the back of one guys head was annoying in 3D, as was
    the news interview with the survivor before whatshisname came up with his scam idea
    ), and I can see myself going back for more 3D-goodiness - I finally see what all the hype is about.

    In terms of story I liked most of it, however:
    Mr E wrote: »
    The doctor angle was pretty clever too, actually.
    This was actually my least favourite part of the story. It felt like pure fanwank, "oh my God, the first ever victim we saw is an apprentice too!" I mean he survived the trap, Jigsaw healed him, and now he's helping the guy that caused him to lose his foot? Seems like a massive stretch of the imagination, even by Saw standards.
    bnt wrote: »
    I'm currently visiting friends in the UK and was persuaded to go and see this earlier today. Not only have I never seen any of the earlier SAW films, this was my first 3D film. I came away with the impression that it was little more than an excuse for a sequence of gruesome deaths with a threadbare, slightly moralistic storyline tacked on as an attempt to justify the murderer's actions.
    A woman says something racist, so she deserves to have a car do a burnout on her face?
    You haven't seen the other movies so I think some background is needed. The original Jigsaw was more moralistic with his traps, but the main baddie in this movie is crazier, and will kill anyone if he gets a chance, something Jigsaw didn't approve of. I mean Jigsaw would never have
    put whatshisname's wife in a trap, she was innocent after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Good points there Daemos. It does annoy me that in later SAWs, people who don't deserve to die end up in traps -- but it's a really unfortunate by-product of knowing someone whom the traps is based around.

    Overall, far bleaker and on the high-end of gore (even for SAW), but still quite enjoyable. I liked how subtly they put Jigsaw into the film. I enjoy SAW for what it is, and am willing to plonk down 11 euro to see it once a year. A torture-porn fest with some kind of moralistic tale, slight social commentary and a revelation at the end, weaving itself into past SAWs. It's good enough for me.

    I'm not interested in what film critics or people who stopped watching many films ago think, just people who've seen 'em all!

    I'm just gonna spoiler everything so I'm not cutting bits and pieces out.
    Although despite the film's hype (this is the final SAW) the ending completely suggests otherwise - and I'm fine with that.

    I thought the explanation for the first trap was a bit weak; I would've liked more exposition. It was also depressing to see that the main guy couldn't save one person. I guess the writers' justify such a bleak outcome by showing people who have survived traps.

    I think one of the parts I enjoy about SAW is when I'm presented with a trap, I'm also thinking of ways to cheat the system. (like would the girl at the start be OK if the two lads had the saw over to one side without killing each other? Would it've been possible to saw through one of the wrist-restraints? Also, the final trap with the wife, could he not have climbed up the other side of the pulled chain? Or hooked the hooks together and use that as a step or a seat?)

    Oh, and SAW 7 grossed over $120,000,000 (and cost around $20m to make)....See you October 2011 for SAW 8 :)


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