Dirty Electricity

roosh

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about "Dirty Electricity", what appliances produce it, is there any [easy] way to check the levels of it, is it something worth being aware of and taking measures to reduce?

Just inquiring having seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5ogZxoZ2Y

dozydelilah

wow, thats mad, i wonder is there any ways to check it out here?

roosh

dozydelilah wrote: »

wow, thats mad, i wonder is there any ways to check it out here?

I'm wondering the same, particularly because we will only be able to buy energy saving light bulbs pretty soon.

djpbarry

I've had a look into Dr. Havas' background - she doesn't seem to have a whole lot of credible research published. I have uncovered one of her papers - the conclusion implied in the title is a ridiculous over-statement (in my opinion) considering it is based on just a handful of cases. Even the conclusions drawn from the individual case studies are pretty flimsy.

I've been trying to dig up some info on the operation of these GS filters but (surprise, surprise), I'm not having much luck.

All-in-all, I don’t think I’ll be rushing to replace my light bulbs just yet.

roosh

djpbarry wrote: »

I've had a look into Dr. Havas' background - she doesn't seem to have a whole lot of credible research published. I have uncovered one of her papers - the conclusion implied in the title is a ridiculous over-statement (in my opinion) considering it is based on just a handful of cases. Even the conclusions drawn from the individual case studies are pretty flimsy.

I've been trying to dig up some info on the operation of these GS filters but (surprise, surprise), I'm not having much luck.

All-in-all, I don’t think I’ll be rushing to replace my light bulbs just yet.

cheers for that

digme

djpbarry wrote: »

I've had a look into Dr. Havas' background - she doesn't seem to have a whole lot of credible research published. I have uncovered one of her papers - the conclusion implied in the title is a ridiculous over-statement (in my opinion) considering it is based on just a handful of cases. Even the conclusions drawn from the individual case studies are pretty flimsy.

I've been trying to dig up some info on the operation of these GS filters but (surprise, surprise), I'm not having much luck.

All-in-all, I don’t think I’ll be rushing to replace my light bulbs just yet.

So you don't think the emf readings are anything to worry about with these so called cleaner greener bulbs?

djpbarry

digme wrote: »

So you don't think the emf readings are anything to worry about with these so called cleaner greener bulbs?

What do you mean by "EMF readings"?

mikhail

This stuff is bunk.

http://www.skepdic.com/emf.html

The National Research Council (NRC) spent more than three years reviewing more than 500 scientific studies that had been conducted over a 20-year period and found "no conclusive and consistent evidence" that electromagnetic fields harm humans.

Genghiz Cohen

mikhail wrote: »

This stuff is bunk.

http://www.skepdic.com/emf.html

Mobile phones are included in this I assume?

EDIT: Read a bit, and yes it is.

Capt'n Midnight

Personally I feel that anyone who owns a mobile phone , TV , computer, microwave , electric toothbrush , car with central locking or any one of innumerable devices can hardly complain about devices that generate low amounts of radio frequency radiation.

Some wall plugs have transformers and they are very heavy due to the copper and iron in them. Almost all other mains powered equipment with a display or LED (including phone chargers) contains a switch mode power supply which emits radio waves.

TBH about the worst device in this regard is a mobile phone, up to a watt of RF and at a more energetic wavelength than most other devices and people tend to hold them up to their brains or carry them near their genitals.

Just to mention that mobile phones use as little power as possible so as to conserve the battery. If those devices that shield you from mobile phone radiation actually worked all that would happen is that the mobile phone would use more power to blast through more than offsetting any benefit since typically you don't hold the side with the shield to your ear.


Yes RF can cause harm, but so does sunlight, and while there no laws preventing people going outside there are laws restricting the amount of RF people can be exposed to. On that note it's important to mention that most RF radiation doesn't have enough energy to do much apart from heat up stuff ( and your body has lots of heat sensors ) you have to get into visible light and UV before you start having chemical effects.


To be blunt the UV radiation from the bulbs is probably a bigger danger than the "dirty electricity"

A Primal Nut

digme wrote: »

So you don't think the emf readings are anything to worry about with these so called cleaner greener bulbs?

There is nothing to worry about. This is the same nonsense that causes people to protest because electrical wires are being put up near the house. There is a difference between EMFs from things like this and Electromagnetic Radiation from mobile phones. Not saying the radiation causes cancer either but EMF's definitely don't. There are EMF's all around us anyway whether you like it or not, so the only solution would be to wear a spacesuit if you are that worried.

VNP

Well i think my tinfoil hat and y fronts mini faraday cage will suffice to keep out the dirt. slow news day in montreal.