TNA Impact 14/10 *Spoilers*

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TNA hasn't announced any matches for this Thursday's iMPACT but is promising the fallout from "they" forming at Bound For Glory and more from Kurt Angle after losing the retirement stipulation.
TMZ reports that MTV Jersey Shore cast member Jenni "JWoww" Farley has signed with TNA to appear on this Thursday night's iMPACT on Spike TV. TMZ notes that JWoww won't be wrestling but will likely be mixing it up with the new Shore characters, Robbie E. and Cookie.
JWoww will reportedly receive $15,000 for the appearances and may appear on more than just this week's show.

JK9

JWoww? Well, that's just super then.

I'd imagine there'll be a RVD/Hardy face off, with a match made for the next PPV

Diabhal Beag

They got the short stick there. They should have gone for Snooki or The Situation.

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We open up impact with Hulk Hogan's theme song and Hogan's pyro. Eric Bischoff and Hogan (still on crutches) come out and there is a mixture of cheers and boos in the building. There are some loud "Hogan sucks" chant as Biscoff introduces Hogan. Hogan says, "Enough of the crap" and that it's time to take what is their's. Fans chant "Please retire." Hogan says that Dixie Carter lied to him and sold him a false bill of goods when it came to TNA, so now "Hollywood" Hogan is taking over TNA. Bischoff introduces the first member of Team Hogan, Abyss. Abyss hugs them and screams, "They're here!" Hogan calls Abyss his son. Bischoff then introduces Jeff Jarrett, who said that at first, he didn't see eye to eye with them but then realized they are on the same page. Bischoff cut a promo on Dixie, saying Dixie took Jeff's company from him, but Fortune's music played and out came Ric Flair and Fortune.
Flair said that Fortune runs TNA, not anyone else. Flair says that tonight, either he or Hogan have to leave TNA forever and they face off, then hug. Bischoff asked if anyone thought that 25 years ago, Flair and Hogan would be on the same team ever. Bischoff then introduced TNA champion Jeff Hardy, who comes out. Everyone in the ring claps for Hardy while the crowd is split. There is a loud "You sold out" chant. Hardy said he didn't sell out, he sold in. Hardy said that he doesn't care about his fans and reveals he was the one who was behind the Abyss attack on Rob Van Dam.
*Samoa Joe defeated Abyss by DQ when Abyss attacked Joe with the ring bell, busting him open. Before Abyss could do any more damage, Rob Van Dam hit the ring and cut a promo calling out Hardy. Hardy appeared on the screen, talking about friendship. Bischoff comes out and says the main event tonight will be RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner getting a shot at Hardy. RVD immediately accepts.
Fortune defeated Pope Dinero in a four on one handicap match after Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match. Pope got in a good amount of offense.
The Shore comes out and cuts a promo on The Jersey Show. JWoww comes out with The Beautiful People. Cookie makes fun of JWow, leading to a catfight between the two. Cookie ends up carried to the back by Robbie E.
Ken Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam goes to a no contest after Eric Bischoff pulls the referee out of the ring. Jeff Hardy shows up and uses a chair on both of them. Some fans threw plastic bottles at Hardy but Universal secutiry emoved them immediately.
They cut to Sting and Kevin Nash watching backstage. Bischoff asks them to come to the ring and let bygones be bygones. Nash and Sting come out. Bischoff asks them to join the crew but Kevin says, "Thanks but no thanks." He cut a promo saying he is sticking with the TNA family and is "passing on the money this time." Sting says that he loves TNA and history won't be repeating itself, and turns them down as well. Bischoff says the offer stands when they change their mind.
Madison Rayne cuts a promo and says that Tara beat her at Bound for Glory and that wasn't supposed to happen. Tara comes out and Rayne tells her that she is the only reason that Tara is back in TNA and Tara needs to do the right thing. Tara lays down and lets Rayne pin her. Madison begins celebrating but Mickie James comes out and says that she came to TNA to make history, so why not let it be tonight. Madison shoved Tara into her and ran off.
Kurt Angle came out to no music to make a statement. There's a big "please don't go" chant from the crowd. Angle says he re-injured his ribs and his neck last night but before he announces his retirement, he wants answers. Out comes Jeff Jarrett, who tells him that Angle said he would retire if he didn't win the title. Angle says that he was the one who put TNA on the map, that his loss at the PPV was the final nail in TNA's coffin and Jarrett can have his ex-wife, but Angle is getting a piece of Jeff. Angle throws the mic down and goes for Jarrett but the two security guards take Angle down and handcuff him. Jarrett begins beating down. Taz finally takes of his headset and comes down, telling Jarrett to back off. Jarrett finally does and we don't have any official announcement of Angle retiring. Good segment.

Looks like Angle V Jarrett is finally going to happen

the drifter

so "fortune" and "they" against "ev 2.0" and?????

Big Daddy Cool

so jarrett backs off because taz (a commentator for the last 10 years) told him to , only in TNA could this happen

Big Daddy Cool

the drifter wrote: »

so "fortune" and "they" against "ev 2.0" and?????

who know's, maybe the wolfpac, nash hall and x pac, i know nash is supposedly gone, but who can tell what will happen next in that company

Furious-Red

Looks like a good Impact

Loughc

Furious-Red wrote: »

Looks like a good Impact

Really? It looks awful, classic cluster-fest from TNA.

campo

Yep it looks good, but was looking forward to Fortune vs They but seems they and fortune are one

Furious-Red

campo wrote: »

Yep it looks good, but was looking forward to Fortune vs They but seems they and fortune are one

Eventually they will turn on each other

Loughc

Furious-Red wrote: »

Eventually they will turn on each other

And then re-united and then double cross each other and then who knows, it is TNA we're talking about after all! :P

Penn

So when Abyss said that "They" weren't Fortune. What he meant was "They" are Fortune and other people.

I bet Abyss invented the riddle where you have to make 25c with 2 coins, but one of them isn't a 20c coin.

Mr.Nice Guy

lockie1983 wrote: »

Really? It looks awful, classic cluster-fest from TNA.

I'd agree. I can see the rating bombing in a few weeks. Might be a bit higher this week due to the heel turn but I don't see it staying that way.

Machismo Fan

Despite it being a talk heavy show it was still pretty good live.

flahavaj

Reads like a loada bullsh*t to me to be honest lads.

paddyismaddy

i hope karen angle comes back

barura

Currently watching it. 30mins and no matches yet.

Gerard.C

When is Sean Waltman due to show up?

dlofnep

They should rename it to TNP - Total Nonstop Promos.

Stupid show. When will they understand? That impact a few weeks ago that was wrestling from start to finish is what fans want to see. Not "The Shore" or some 40 minute promo at the beginning.

barura

Yeah,this is getting silly. I enjoy promos, but the first 30 minutes was just fúcking silly.

chordtype

Get ready for CLOSE TO HOUR AND A HALF of promos. Really taking the piss with this show. Remember wrestling?

Machismo Fan

chordtype wrote: »

Get ready for CLOSE TO HOUR AND A HALF of promos. Really taking the piss with this show. Remember wrestling?

This show is very much the exception to the recent trend of more wrestling on iMPACT! and it was kind of a necessity considering what they did at BFG.

Machismo Fan

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_44545.shtml

The initial details we have on last night's TNA Impact is the show averaged 1.90 million viewers.

It's the most viewers since the January 21 episode averaged 1.93 million viewers. We'll have more details on the TV ratings later today.

Riddle101

I actually liked the beginning of the show. They and Fortune teaming up, and Jeff Hardy's promo was pretty cool as well.

I'm going to wait and see how this storyline plays out before I judge. Just watch and enjoy is my philosophy to wrestling

chordtype

Machismo Fan wrote: »

This show is very much the exception to the recent trend of more wrestling on iMPACT! and it was kind of a necessity considering what they did at BFG.

I agree that it needed promos to actually get over what happened at BFG but I thought it was a bit excessive.

Machismo Fan

chordtype wrote: »

I agree that it needed promos to actually get over what happened at BFG but I thought it was a bit excessive.

There is a fair bit more wrestling next week.

chordtype

Machismo Fan wrote: »

There is a fair bit more wrestling next week.

Hopefully. One of the problems which I think TNA has is finding the balance between promos and actual wrestling. WWE seems to have gotten this down and for the past few months TNA seemed to be going down the right road. Here's hoping that they get back on track.

Super-Rush

Are TNA combining the ratings of Imapct & Reaction?

chordtype

super-rush wrote: »

Are TNA combining the ratings of Imapct & Reaction?

No they are two different shows when it comes to ratings.

This weeks rating was a 1.4 their highest since Jan.

From f4wonline.com

Quarters:
1.53
1.52
1.41
1.42
1.43
1.35
1.37
1.23

Not good that people tuned out during the show.

Super-Rush

chordtype wrote: »

No they are two different shows when it comes to ratings.

This weeks rating was a 1.4 their highest since Jan.

From f4wonline.com



Not good that people tuned out during the show.

The reason i asked was because the final segment was on Reaction.

chordtype

super-rush wrote: »

The reason i asked was because the final segment was on Reaction.

The trend recently seems to be to have the main event run over into Reaction in the hope that people stay watching and provide a ratings boost for the new show. Not sure if it pays off though. Hopefully they remember to edit the show for Bravo.

Machismo Fan

chordtype wrote: »

The trend recently seems to be to have the main event run over into Reaction in the hope that people stay watching and provide a ratings boost for the new show. Not sure if it pays off though.

It does most weeks, this week included: http://www.pwinsider.com/article/51843/impact-reaction-and-superstars-ratings.html?p=1

The episode of Reaction that followed, which included 12 minutes of the Impact main event, did a 0.74 rating, with 942,000 viewers. TNA is running Impact into Reaction to drive the rating up, which is smart.

Mr.Nice Guy

I had a look at this earlier. I'm not surprised people tuned out of that show. It was an awful episode, particularly the first hour. Jeff as heel was as bad as I feared. He just comes across like a whingeing teenager. Some people call him the 'antichrist of wrestling' apparently. :rolleyes: Hogan I thought was very poor with his promo. It was just WCW all over again with the factions and too many heels. The latter became apparent with the handicap match against Pope. (Pope seemed to be going heel a few weeks back but now he's back to being a face due to the dramatic heel turns in recent weeks. Typical Russo booking with no forward planning) I thought the angle between Tara and Madison was demeaning to both Tara and the women's title. Those defending it will say this was the point. I would reply by asking why give Tara the belt then at BFG.

In summary, too much emphasis on storylines which are poor and stupid. There are too many groups and heels on the show and a lack of top babyface challengers. The guy who is supposed to be the top heel can't do the role well and their best wrestler, Angle, seems to be taking time off now (didn't enjoy the segment with him and Jarrett either). The treatment of the women's division is also disappointing, typified by the focus on some girl off an MTV show. The wrestling, which often is good, was non-existent pretty much with a joke match, lack of proper finishes and a handicap match.

Really terrible show.

Machismo Fan

While some of what you said is true I disagree with you on a couple of points. Firstly I thought the opening segments did a good job of establishing the heel group, how and why they formed. Plus, I think Hardy did a pretty good job considering it was his first promo as a heel, he was especially good with his promo in the middle of the show which was just creepy.

I also disagree that there are too many heels, that's just the way it's being presented at the moment with the heels outnumbering the faces individually. Once the roster bands together (which is a mistake WWE made with Nexus, the Raw roster came together too quickly which made it silly when there was rarely anybody making the save during beatdowns) the numbers will be more or less even. Angle, RVD, Anderson, Joe, Pope (who is a face because he was right in his actions despite being presented as a heel at the time), Sting, The Guns, Lethal and even Hernandez would provide a more than credible face group to oppose Immortal, plus they could even be supplemented by EV 2. Not to mention that a feud between the groups could provide some top notch matches which is why I'm excited about this.

jmolloy

hopefully TNA have learned from the mistakes they made during the frontline-main event mafia-world elite storylines and can this time make a group feud work

Prufrock

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I had a look at this earlier. I'm not surprised people tuned out of that show. It was an awful episode, particularly the first hour. Jeff as heel was as bad as I feared. He just comes across like a whingeing teenager. Some people call him the 'antichrist of wrestling' apparently. :rolleyes: Hogan I thought was very poor with his promo. It was just WCW all over again with the factions and too many heels. The latter became apparent with the handicap match against Pope. (Pope seemed to be going heel a few weeks back but now he's back to being a face due to the dramatic heel turns in recent weeks. Typical Russo booking with no forward planning) I thought the angle between Tara and Madison was demeaning to both Tara and the women's title. Those defending it will say this was the point. I would reply by asking why give Tara the belt then at BFG.

In summary, too much emphasis on storylines which are poor and stupid. There are too many groups and heels on the show and a lack of top babyface challengers. The guy who is supposed to be the top heel can't do the role well and their best wrestler, Angle, seems to be taking time off now (didn't enjoy the segment with him and Jarrett either). The treatment of the women's division is also disappointing, typified by the focus on some girl off an MTV show. The wrestling, which often is good, was non-existent pretty much with a joke match, lack of proper finishes and a handicap match.

Really terrible show.

+1 WCW all over again. Pope was in the middle of a heel turn before BFG. Now he's a face? Hardy hasn't the promo skills to pull of being a heel. Couldn't watch it all as it didn't keep my attention. Not enough in ring action. What a waste of any interest generated by BFG.

Machismo Fan

Prufrock wrote: »

Pope was in the middle of a heel turn before BFG. Now he's a face? Hardy hasn't the promo skills to pull of being a heel.

Not really. Within the context of the storyline at the time, what he was saying made him a heel, but because he was proven to be right it justifies his actions and makes him a face. Plus, his promo style is much more suited to being a face. And Hardy did a perfectly fine job delivering both of his promos on iMPACT!.

danny29

I thought Hardy did extremely good job on his heel promos and its something that we have never seen from him. You have to got to try different stuff..i think most of the people are sick of his being face anyways and turning his heel isn't bad idea

Machismo Fan

danny29 wrote: »

I thought Hardy did extremely good job on his heel promos and its something that we have never seen from him. You have to got to try different stuff..i think most of the people are sick of his being face anyways and turning his heel isn't bad idea

And it's not like it's such the terrible idea people are making it out to be. Hardy had very little real affect on business in TNA besides selling a few t-shirts.

Furious-Red

Yea Jeffs promo with RVD was done really well. I also think its unfair to complain about Jeff's Heel status since its only a week into it. Give it time imo

Mr.Nice Guy

Machismo Fan wrote: »

While some of what you said is true I disagree with you on a couple of points. Firstly I thought the opening segments did a good job of establishing the heel group, how and why they formed. Plus, I think Hardy did a pretty good job considering it was his first promo as a heel, he was especially good with his promo in the middle of the show which was just creepy.

I also disagree that there are too many heels, that's just the way it's being presented at the moment with the heels outnumbering the faces individually. Once the roster bands together (which is a mistake WWE made with Nexus, the Raw roster came together too quickly which made it silly when there was rarely anybody making the save during beatdowns) the numbers will be more or less even. Angle, RVD, Anderson, Joe, Pope (who is a face because he was right in his actions despite being presented as a heel at the time), Sting, The Guns, Lethal and even Hernandez would provide a more than credible face group to oppose Immortal, plus they could even be supplemented by EV 2. Not to mention that a feud between the groups could provide some top notch matches which is why I'm excited about this.

I would agree WWE made mistakes with the Nexus storyline but at least they did try and pace it out better. Watching Impact it was like they were flying through several storylines at once. For example, why did Fortune have to align with Hogan's group so quickly? Could they have not gotten better mileage out of the storyline by doing that down the road? I'm also not sure the faces you mention are believable enough to take out two substantially large heel factions that are joined together. As you say it will likely require Dreamer and his lot joining in and they really shouldn't even be on the show. To paraphrase Heyman, guys over 40 shouldn't be getting so much time.

I just think it's a muddled mess and Hardy is definitely going to flop as a heel. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong but I don't see him growing into the role. They really need to fire Russo and the other donkeys on the writing staff.

Exclamation Marc

I really enjoyed Impact! Not nearly enough wrestling but for once that's ok because "They" needed a lot of storyline attention and for once the lack of wrestling makes sense. Why have a couple of matches stock up the first half hour when most people are tuning in to figure out the aftermath of BFG. Why keep the they promo limited to 15 mins when it needs a lot longer to explain, a lot longer for Nash/Sting to walk out etc.

I actually like the storyline. People say its WCW all over again, and thats the point of the storyline, that they're turning it into WCW but there's the TNA resistance which I think will throw up some interesting matches and feuds. It's hard to give creedance to people saying this angle has failed completely when its only just kicked off. The WCW similarities are intentional for the moment. Without inviting the "well it's TNA, so they probably are", with the similarities being so obvious between some of the happenings, the idea is probably for everyone to believe that Hogan/Bischoff ARE actually trying to make it just like the old WCW and for the similarities to be obvious and credible.

Nobody knows how it will pan out and if you're one to say "well this is TNA, so it probably will be crap", then just dont bother watching it, because your minds have already been made up. If you're watching it, waiting for it to fail then you'll naturally find fault. Also, to those saying that Hardy being a heel is a failure is a massive pre-emption. He's been a heel in TV land for what, all of two hours??

Mr.Nice Guy

The fact that viewers progressively tuned out of the show bit by bit indicates the show was a failure. People tuned in to see how it would work and evidently were not impressed, either with the storylines or Jeff's (terrible) heel work.

stiffler123

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The fact that viewers progressively tuned out of the show bit by bit indicates the show was a failure. People tuned in to see how it would work and evidently were not impressed, either with the storylines or Jeff's (terrible) heel work.

In your opinion, and spoken like a WWE fan too.
For me, despite the lack of wrestling, I thought it was a really solid Impact, the best I've seen in a while. The promos made sense, were entertaining, and the "They" storyline needed a lot of air time to explain. I agree with your earlier post saying they could of waited a while to join with Fortune. But I must disagree with you about the Jeff Hardy heel turn. I didn't think it would work myself after BFG but thought he did a believable job of it on Impact, it will remain to be seen.

Hopefully someone like Anderson or Pope will get a title run soon. Two reasons why I will always watch TNA over WWE-
1. Better wrestlers. AJ Styles vs CENA, no contest.
2. They give younger wrestlers who deserve a shot a push, unlike WWE who have the same two idiots in every main event until they retire.

Charisteas

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

I bet Abyss invented the riddle where you have to make 25c with 2 coins, but one of them isn't a 20c coin.

What's the answer to that?

Penn

Charisteas wrote: »

What's the answer to that?

A 5c coin and a 20c coin. One of the coins isn't a 20c. The other one is

Charisteas

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

A 5c coin and a 20c coin. One of the coins isn't a 20c. The other one is

Awesome! I thought it was get a 50c coin and cut it in half.