Anyone knows about 1997 vento?

gazami

I'm trying to buy a used car currently. And today a guy said that he can
sell his car at 1,500euro to me. His car is 1997 vento and the mileage is
bit higher than 100,000 and I think it's 1.4 diesel but I'm not sure about
this.

The thing is that I've never heard of vento until I came to Ireland. Do any
of you know what kind of car it is? Is it good or crappy? And how do
you think of the deal? If it's 1,500 is it a fair deal?

Thank you for advance.

homer90

1.9 I would think, if its diesel. They did have a 1.4 petrol also
These VW's have a bit of a following of late. Good for mega miles if looked after.
Price wise it may be a bit ambitious, but possibly worth it if it all checked out.

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Skuxx

If its well looked after a diesel vento (probly 1.9) will run forever!! 100,000 miles is nothing to it!

Anan1

At that end of the market it's all down to condition, IMO.

Del2005

gazami wrote: »

I'm trying to buy a used car currently. And today a guy said that he can
sell his car at 1,500euro to me. His car is 1997 vento and the mileage is
bit higher than 100,000 and I think it's 1.4 diesel but I'm not sure about
this.

The thing is that I've never heard of vento until I came to Ireland. Do any
of you know what kind of car it is? Is it good or crappy? And how do
you think of the deal? If it's 1,500 is it a fair deal?

Thank you for advance.

Vento is a Golf with a boot. For some strange reason VW refuse to call their saloon Golf's Golf so they used Jetta, Vento and now back to Jetta.

If it is a 1.4 diesel you'd be quicker walking.

johndaman66

Del2005 wrote: »

For some strange reason VW refuse to call their saloon Golf's Golf so they used Jetta, Vento and now back to Jetta.

Just for the sake of being pedantic was it not Jetta, Vento, Bora and then back to Jetta I would have thought.

I would have thought the guy selling it means either a 1.4 petrol or 1.9 if its a diesel is most likely. On the face of it €1,500 seems a bit on the saucy side for a 1997 VW Vento but a lot will depend on how long its NCT'd for, what condition its in, when its taxed until (if it is currently taxed). What the tyres are like, if the car was recently serviced, money spent on routine maintenance etc lately.

The 1.9 diesel would be €582 to tax per annum versus €333 for the 1.4 so realistically you would need to be doing considerable mileage to justify going for the diesel I reckon. I say this because I know people driving relatively high capacity diesel engined cars and only doing minimum mileage, maybe 10k to 12k max per annum and still think they are quids in by driving a diesel

100k should not be severe mileage on such a car and they are a generally pretty robust machine. However, thats assuming that the car was not abused. No doubt there are ones out there with less mileage that were poorly maintained and they are probably dog rough

GTE

If the car is in good condition and its the diesel you should have a mighty car there. 100,000 miles on those diesels is nothing.

Im waiting for the Formula One at 2am so I crunched some numbers for you.

Say you do 200 miles per week (10,000ish miles a year):

Diesel:

You should use 3.6 gallons of diesel at 55mpg (doable) which is 16.365924 litres which would cost EUR20.30 at the pump. On top of that you have EUR11.20 Tax per week.

Total diesel Vento cost per week: EUR31.50 (EUR1638 per year)

Petrol:

You should use 5 gallons of petrol at 30mpg (quoted from Parkers.co.uk, they are right for my VW diesel) which is 22.73 litres which would cost EUR29.54 at the pump. On top of that you have EUR6.40 tax per week.


Total petrol Vento cost per week: EUR35.94 (EUR1868.88 per year)

200 miles across a 5 day working week is 40 miles.

Per year at 200 miles a week the diesel is about EUR230 cheaper.
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If the car is in good condition then maintenance should be normal and I cant really comment on that.

Secondly, there may be insurance price differences between the two so that can be a factor.

TestTransmission

1500 euro for a 1997 Vento

Fishtits

Its worth €500 if you're in a good mood.

Its a F*ckswagen, - ie basic spec

Its a F*ckswagen - ie rough as a bears arse

Its a F*ckswagen - ie you've got to deal with the most arrogant dealer network in the country.

Fishtits, proud owner of a trouble free Golf TDI...

bazz26

€1500 is alot for an almost 14 years old Vento. I would not pay more than €1000 for it assuming it is in good shape. Also at that age the mileage on the odometer is only a number, condition is more important.

Tea 1000

Absolute rip off. Vento's are horrible and outdated. The 1.9 diesel is as slow as walking, and the 1.4 petrol isn't much better. I'd pay around €150 for one, tops. Find something else is my advice, many much better cars out there.

Conor_M1990

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Absolute rip off. Vento's are horrible and outdated. The 1.9 diesel is as slow as walking, and the 1.4 petrol isn't much better. I'd pay around €150 for one, tops. Find something else is my advice, many much better cars out there.

Your right 1500 is way to much for a vento Id personally pay up to 500 if it was in good nick and had a bit of tax and test not worth any more never driven a 1.9D myself so cant comment on that but that 1.4 engine gets a lot more slack then it deserves imo Ive driven a few golfs with a 1.4 both MK3 and MK4 and I can honestly say its not a bad engine It has a nice bit of torque in it for a 1.4 I still wouldnt buy one myself with real money but for what it is i think its a good little engine and yes I know there unrelible.

Personally if I was going after a car of that era it would be a 1.5 ils vtec Civic the 1.5's get good mileage have a better spec (leccys and a sunroof) are nicer to drive a saloon one should be cheap enough and clean as the boy racers dont want that shape cheap insurance too on the rover shape

Gael23

Its a 1.9 SDI in the Vento if I remember. If properly maintained these engines should reach 500k no problem.

Del2005

johndaman66 wrote: »

Just for the sake of being pedantic was it not Jetta, Vento, Bora and then back to Jetta I would have thought.

I knew after I'd typed it that I'd missed one, just couldn't remember which one.

sean1141

if its 1.9 diesel and has anyway been minded it will go forever. there was also a 1.9tdi but these are very rare. dont mind the higher cost in tax. as bbk said you will save the differance in about ten thousand miles easy. if your doing any more diesel is well worth it! i drove a mk4 1.4 petrol and was lucky to get 370-400 miles out of a tank. then moved to a tdi and was getting 530-550 from the tank with a lot harder driving!!

if it was clean, rust free, no crash damage, good tyres and a years tax and test it might be worth near the asking price. and the end of the day its worth what your willing to pay for it!

i think the last of the vento's (97-98) came with electric windows but dont hold me to that

zapata

€1500 for a 97 vento is twice what the car is worth regardless of condition.

Owen

Vento in Italian apparently means fart. Well, it means wind, but it's the word Italians use for fart. Or so teh Internets tell me.

johndaman66

bbk are you sure them figures are correct? 30mpg for the 1.4 litre petrol vento seems very pesamistic to me. Parkers.co.uk may not be correct either. I stand to be corrected but think a 1.4 vento should be returning better fuel economy than that in mixed driving conditions. Perhaps somebody who drives one could confirm. Also this crap people who drive diesels continuiously blag about how "their yoke" will run on the smell of diesel is getting long in the tooth...Thats no dig at you or anything if thats the way it seems bbk...Just a general comment.

pcardin

zapata wrote: »

€1500 for a 97 vento is twice what the car is worth regardless of condition.

€1500 it's actually three times what the car is worth if not even four times.

johndaman66

pcardin wrote: »

€1500 it's actually three times what the car is worth if not even four times.

What price guide did you see the used values of VW Ventos in may I ask? Link?

zapata

pcardin wrote: »

€1500 it's actually three times what the car is worth if not even four times.

Do I hear five times?.....
Going, going, going,,,, anymore bidders in this reverse auction?

Realistically someone may well pay €800 ish for it and get value for money out of it if it needs little thrown at her in the next few thousand miles. Much, much better cars can be bought for €1500 cash. Only a nutter would give €1500 for a 97 Vento imo, a nutter or one of them chaps, enthusiasts apparently they are that want to go making her euro looking by slamming it on deep dishes or whatever :pac:

argosy2006

you would get a 406 hdi 00 with full nct and tax for 1500. and it would be cheaper on diesel

argosy2006

example > http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1613636

or with les than 100k http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1576147

pcardin

johndaman66 wrote: »

What price guide did you see the used values of VW Ventos in may I ask? Link?

There no degree in science required for that. Just browse trough used car sites and see yourself:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1612175

and
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1599179

or http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/61/66617961.html

or http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/30/66389630.html

happy enough?

gazami

It helped a lot. Thank you.

Gitb1

Del2005 wrote: »

Vento is a Golf with a boot. For some strange reason VW refuse to call their saloon Golf's Golf so they used Jetta, Vento and now back to Jetta.

If it is a 1.4 diesel you'd be quicker walking.

Dont forget Bora too!

johndaman66

pcardin wrote: »

There no degree in science required for that. Just browse trough used car sites and see yourself:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1612175

and
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1599179

or http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/61/66617961.html

or http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/30/66389630.html

happy enough?

Not particularly actually I'm afraid. With a car of this vintage an awful lot will depend on above all its condition but also what was recently done to it in terms of maintenance, tyres, tax, NCT and the like. I'm not going to say that the car the OP is looking at is or is not worth €1,500 as I don't know anything about the car other than its a 1997 VW Vento either 1.4 petrol or 1.9 diesel with 100k miles on the clock.

But just to take a closer look at the cars you linked to two do not mention if they are not NCT'd or taxed so safe to assume they aren't. The two that we see are tested are only tested for a short while at this stage. I'm assuming none of them are taxed either and for all we know they could all need tyres and belted soon (but not saying thats the case either). Lets assume they do and even take the cheapest car at €380. You could be looking at well over €1,500 before you get it on the road quite easily. Four half decent tyres...you are unlikely to have much change of €200 if not more, tax €78 for 3 months (that won't keep you going for too long). Timing belt kit, water pump and coolant, looking at previous boards threads on this around €400 seems to be the going rate but no doubt its possible to get it done for less (and more) too. You can already see costs mounting and that might be just to get the car up to someway half decent motoring order never mind NCT. You can really probably add as much as you like if you need shocks, brakes, headlamps etc for the NCT.

Now I'm not saying that the OP's intended purchase is any better than the other cars, it could be a complete dog and conversly so the cars you have provided links to might actually need very little all the same. My point is that its a wee bit pointless to say such a car is way overpriced or a bargain without knowing the full details. I'm not trying to have a pop at you or anything either. Its just I've being in the same boat before myself. Bought a few cars that seemed relatively cheap without NCT with intention of testing them and making a few quid. Even though they did not necessairly need a lot of parts the parts they did need could still be pricey when it gets down to it and trust me I did not make any profit when I sold them. Its easy to see how even a good mechanic could get stung this with without knowing the price of parts.

Sorry for rattling on a bit.

shamwari

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Vento in Italian apparently means fart. Well, it means wind, but it's the word Italians use for fart. Or so teh Internets tell me.

I dare you to look up an alternate meaning for "Pajero":....:D

Owen

Done that one ages ago Shamwari We had an epic thread here a while back with funny car names. The Isuzu Big Horn was one everyone had seemed to forget about too!

GTE

johndaman66 wrote: »

bbk are you sure them figures are correct? 30mpg for the 1.4 litre petrol vento seems very pesamistic to me. Parkers.co.uk may not be correct either. I stand to be corrected but think a 1.4 vento should be returning better fuel economy than that in mixed driving conditions. Perhaps somebody who drives one could confirm. Also this crap people who drive diesels continuiously blag about how "their yoke" will run on the smell of diesel is getting long in the tooth...Thats no dig at you or anything if thats the way it seems bbk...Just a general comment.

You raise a very good point. I dont own the 1.4 so I had to use an external source for the mpg figure. Parkers was used for this because for my 1.9 TDI they say it will do around 53 mpg and the best I have gotten is 57 though I really tried to do that and I never drove on a motorway during that time which helped a lot. During normal driving I get about 50 to 55 mpg and if I have harsh acceleration days or weeks the lowest I have gotten was 47mpg. If anything Parkers seems to be pretty realistic.

I sort of see where you are coming from about the "smell of diesel" thing. It is common that people will rant on about how great their cars are just in the same way you can have the idiots who change a standard TDI badge to TDI. That kind of mentality.

Anyway, everything in my previous post is actually based on facts and figures so at least I have that on my side

Tea 1000

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1622774
So much better than a Vento it's not funny.

johndaman66

Tea 1000 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1622774
So much better than a Vento it's not funny.

Certainly +1 on that.