gunclubs

kieran1141

someone might be able to enlighten me on this, drove around this week seen gunclub sighns up all over the place went to 3 farmers and asked whats going on they knew nothing about these sighns they said dont mind them iam shooting there for over 30years, went to 2 of my deer permissions and seen differant club sighns up went to farmers and they said no 1 asked me shoot away tell them to f-off if anyone comes near you, iam with countryside alliance and have 1000's of acres to shoot anyway, but have clubs the right to put up sighns without permission directly from the farmer. dont want to say to much to the farmers as 2 of them said if there not careful no 1 will be shooting the land.

bunny shooter

Clubs or individuals have no rights unless the landowner tells them they do.

As you have found out a lot of landowners will close their land to save themselves the hassle of different lads/clubs arguing & asking them who can and can't shoot on THEIR land.

There are some muppets in all clubs tbh. A few lads from one of my local clubs told a friend of mine, who was shooting on his father's land, that as he wasn't in their club so he couldn't shoot on his father's land :rolleyes:

Tackleberrywho

bunny shooter wrote: »

Clubs or individuals have no rights unless the landowner tells them they do.

As you have found out a lot of landowners will close their land to save themselves the hassle of different lads/clubs arguing & asking them who can and can't shoot on THEIR land.

There are some muppets in all clubs tbh. A few lads from one of my local clubs told a friend of mine, who was shooting on his father's land, that as he wasn't in their club so he couldn't shoot on his father's land :rolleyes:

A fella tried that craic with me on my granuncles land, I told him my family had been hunting on that land since the 1700's and he was the blow in that needed his facts checked.

My Dad NEVER was asked if the local lads could shoot on our land, yet low and behold one year a sign goes up on a tree, we cut it down (the tree that is, and burned it )

kieran1141

well dont want to rock the boat with farmers anoying them about sighns, but this s**t goes on here every year, if there not careful as a few farmers said and 1 farmers son we'll put up no shooting sighns and that will sort it, so i suppose best to say nothin and bang away as usual, make me laugh puttin sighns up where we let birds off, 2 young farmers came to me in stubble last year and i shooting duck pulled in jeep and asked had i permisson i pulled out phone to ring farmer and they said forget about it , said that he was a mean c**t anyway, told him what they said he said the have no permission to shoot there and do not alloy anyone on there lands and i was to tell them to leave, its mad here.

westwicklow

bunny shooter wrote: »

....A few lads from one of my local clubs told a friend of mine, who was shooting on his father's land, that as he wasn't in their club so he couldn't shoot on his father's land :rolleyes:

Local gun club shooting our land won't let me become a member as I'm not on the approved list yet....

I don't blame the club or the local lads in it.... the maker of the rules isn't a local and really doesn't understand.

bunny shooter

westwicklow wrote: »

Local gun club shooting our land won't let me become a member as I'm not on the approved list yet....

I don't blame the club or the local lads in it.... the maker of the rules isn't a local and really doesn't understand.

They are fools ! Local landowners and their families in my clubs are welcomed with open arms.

What "approved list" is this?

I would balme the local lads tbh. They should vote the twat out of whatever position he's in.

kieran1141

westwicklow wrote: »

Local gun club shooting our land won't let me become a member as I'm not on the approved list yet....

I don't blame the club or the local lads in it.... the maker of the rules isn't a local and really doesn't understand.

it gets better every with the bulls**t from these people, treating farmers like s**t telling the farmer who they can let in on ther land farmers here are getting sick of it, and if your a farmers son you automatically are into the club (IF THEY HAVE ANY SENCE AT ALL, WITCH THEY USUALLY DONT) well here you be in straight away yum yum more land for us, they will do like 80% of clubs do eventually blow themselves out of the water with there bulls**t there will be a row internally over something silly witch is happening here at the min in 2 clubs and split up, THEY LOVE TO THINK THEY HAVE POWER HA HA HA, they forgrt its onely out of the kindness of the farmers heard,"or sometimes a bit of blackmail; that they are let in, and as we know most clubs are run by a handful and the other little boys are kept in the dark, on a need to know basis.

westwicklow

Seemingly, there's a list of people who will, for whatever reason, will never get membership. There's a second list of people waiting to become a member..... I'm waiting to get on that list.

The big picture though is that the active members do a great job for me and for others in the area shooting pillaging deer, foxes and trapping magpies/crows etc. etc.

There's also the point that most of the local members come by from time to time to let me know of the odd problem such as perhaps a broken fence, neighbours animals straying in on me, and better to have locals around than total strangers.

Actually, come to think of it, the only time I've met the urban based chairman of the club is when he pulled me up for shooting on "his" permission.... didn't even know who I was. There were other members watching and sniggering away at him.... I'd say they put him up to it actually but that's just a guess!

kieran1141

westwicklow wrote: »

Seemingly, there's a list of people who will, for whatever reason, will never get membership. There's a second list of people waiting to become a member..... I'm waiting to get on that list.

The big picture though is that the active members do a great job for me and for others in the area shooting pillaging deer, foxes and trapping magpies/crows etc. etc.

There's also the point that most of the local members come by from time to time to let me know of the odd problem such as perhaps a broken fence, neighbours animals straying in on me, and better to have locals around than total strangers.

Actually, come to think of it, the only time I've met the urban based chairman of the club is when he pulled me up for shooting on "his" permission.... didn't even know who I was. There were other members watching and sniggering away at him.... I'd say they put him up to it actually but that's just a guess!

i was in the club for 25 to 30 years and a lot of the things they do are good, but as for the way they treat people leaves a lot to be desired, waiting lists and all this is rubbish your either in or not it was always you were nomanated by 1 member and second by another and that was it, and a garda told me (and dont know if this is true) if you live in an area over a year and have been granted a gun licence by the super that the gun club cannot refuse you entry into it, and should take them to court, but would want to be pretty desprate to join to do that, your fait lies in the hands of the 4 or 5 that actually run all clubs. can see big changes to come in clubs where the normal joe soap of the side of the road cannot deside if you are good enough or not. this will all come back and bite them, and after all that, i know there is some great clubs out there and i know 1 or 2 but no 1 from outside the parish witch is ok i suppose, but iam sure if i looked into it i would find a few members for who the rules were bent. now iam away to give my dogs a run and the best of luck to all them poor people who are suffering at the hands of these s**t run clubs, shame on you. PAY YOUR INSURANCE , KNOCK AT DOOR AND PREDUCE THE INSURANCE, AND BE NO PROBLEM WITH 9 OUT OF 10 FARMERS.

cavan shooter

Like all clubs in the land there are some bad ones and there are some good ones.

Clubs like individuals still have to ask permission from Farmers to put up signs and 99 times out of 100 farmers dont mind (once they ask) and from my experience if they do give permission to other lads to shoot, they often tell you that so and so has pernmission.

There are some real cheeky, rude and gobdaw buggers out their, that can make a club officers life hell due to ignorance and pure stupidity. There are a couple of rules for succesful shooting that lads need to get a grip with and they are 100% manners and common sense.

1. If you see a farmer regardless of gun club sign or not introduce yourself and always ask can you have a shot.

2. If you met him previously and your walking out of his fields always say "Did you mind and stop to chat"

3. Keep away from cattle/livestock and green veg

to this day Member of a club or not I wont shoot on land where I dont know the farmer

and be it on your own head if you refuse a cup of tea.


I am sick of saying it to lads, if fellas have permission to shoot on land let them join the gun club, it makes sense. They will shoot the birds your raising regardless. In fairness to the NARGC they are screaming this at County and National level too.

When I was a young lad I was turned down membership of a local club (Parish) and I remember the chairmans face on the 1st November when I met him with two lovely cock pheasants in my game bag. You see even though I am a long standing member of NARGC clubs it wasnt always like that.

tfox

bunny shooter wrote: »

Clubs or individuals have no rights unless the landowner tells them they do.

As you have found out a lot of landowners will close their land to save themselves the hassle of different lads/clubs arguing & asking them who can and can't shoot on THEIR land.

There are some muppets in all clubs tbh. A few lads from one of my local clubs told a friend of mine, who was shooting on his father's land, that as he wasn't in their club so he couldn't shoot on his father's land :rolleyes:

As far as I know gun clubs get permission from landowners but do not get the sole rights to all shooting on those grounds.

We rear and release pheasants and ducks on my cousins and neighbours farms (about 500 acres) which we shoot bout 4 times a year. We always shot our neighbours rough fields for snipe aswell. Sadly he passed away and next season there was a gun club sign put up saying "no shooting, members only". We went to the widow and asked her about it and it was the first she'd heard of anything about the gunclub getting permission. Rang up the local club and asked what they were playing at, claimed they put sign in wrong place, then came asking the widow for permission. She said by all means but we se still had permission to shoot her lands aswell as anyone else who had asked her.

kieran1141

cavan shooter wrote: »

Like all clubs in the land there are some bad ones and there are some good ones.

Clubs like individuals still have to ask permission from Farmers to put up signs and 99 times out of 100 farmers dont mind (once they ask) and from my experience if they do give permission to other lads to shoot, they often tell you that so and so has pernmission.

There are some real cheeky, rude and gobdaw buggers out their, that can make a club officers life hell due to ignorance and pure stupidity. There are a couple of rules for succesful shooting that lads need to get a grip with and they are 100% manners and common sense.

1. If you see a farmer regardless of gun club sign or not introduce yourself and always ask can you have a shot.

2. If you met him previously and your walking out of his fields always say "Did you mind and stop to chat"

3. Keep away from cattle/livestock and green veg

to this day Member of a club or not I wont shoot on land where I dont know the farmer

and be it on your own head if you refuse a cup of tea.


I am sick of saying it to lads, if fellas have permission to shoot on land let them join the gun club, it makes sense. They will shoot the birds your raising regardless. In fairness to the NARGC they are screaming this at County and National level too.

When I was a young lad I was turned down membership of a local club (Parish) and I remember the chairmans face on the 1st November when I met him with two lovely cock pheasants in my game bag. You see even though I am a long standing member of NARGC clubs it wasnt always like that.

I agree 110% with everything you say, just could never figure these waiting lists and list of certain people not let in,is it not better to have these people in the club where you have more control over them, as most af them are shooting the same land as the club, but i suppose that would be a perfect world, or at least getting close to one, i would love to be in a good club as think clubs are a good thing always a few fools who get carried away and try to rule the world but thats normal in any group, had been in a club for 25 year or more as i said but this club had no morals just get your own land and shoot away they say, not much point in going on about this so i will leave it at that, had a few private messages on this and all saying the same going on in ther area, so iam not going to change things in a hurry.

bunny shooter

tfox wrote: »

As far as I know gun clubs get permission from landowners but do not get the sole rights to all shooting on those grounds.......

I stated "Clubs or individuals...."

I should have said "clubs and/or individuals"