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Taxing small commercial

  • 08-10-2010 1:58pm
    #1
    1922
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭


    a 1.8 ford courrier van

    its owned privately, but wondering can i still tax her commercially or do i now have to tax it privately....

    its been off the road for a while so will be making the necessary declartion, tax her now from the start of this month


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  • #2
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Do you have a VAT number, and will it be used solely for commercial purposes.

    If the answer to either of those is no, say hello to €471 a year road tax.


  • #3
    shamwari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭shamwari


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Do you have a VAT number, and will it be used solely for commercial purposes.

    If the answer to either of those is no, say hello to €471 a year road tax.

    How are you supposed to get around this if you are a sole trader who isn't VAT registered? I'm sure there are plenty of them out there.


  • #4
    pARTner81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭pARTner81


    shamwari wrote: »
    How are you supposed to get around this if you are a sole trader who isn't VAT registered? I'm sure there are plenty of them out there.

    I don't think you will get around it, it seems that you have to now provide your VAT no. There was a thread about all this on the motors forum.


  • #5
    101sean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    There is a huge long thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056002732

    There are several ways of proving a business other than a VAT number.


  • #6
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    dont be surprised if the Customs check up on the usage of it though...have your excuses ready (ie a parcel in the back Im delivering....or "24 call out" on the door....


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  • #7
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Do you have a VAT number, and will it be used solely for commercial purposes.

    If the answer to either of those is no, say hello to €471 a year road tax.

    I thoungh that private tax for 1.8 is 551.


  • #8
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    pARTner81 wrote: »
    I don't think you will get around it, it seems that you have to now provide your VAT no. There was a thread about all this on the motors forum.

    Are you trying to say, that a small business that doesn't need to register for VAT is forced to tax it's van privately.
    That doesn't make sense.


  • #9
    101sean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    No, if you check the long running commercial thread as mentioned above you will find the full list of requirements on the last page, there are several other possibilities besides VAT.


  • #10
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    CiniO wrote: »
    Are you trying to say, that a small business that doesn't need to register for VAT is forced to tax it's van privately.
    That doesn't make sense.

    Its the case in the UK where the tax groupr would be PLG PRIVATE? LIGHT GOODS same as cars. (afaik)


  • #11
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    101sean wrote: »
    No, if you check the long running commercial thread as mentioned above you will find the full list of requirements on the last page, there are several other possibilities besides VAT.

    From what I've heard though, the staff in the tax office are only looking for VAT numbers. It's probably possible to prove it another way, but I don't think it will be easy.

    @CiniO - you're right on the tax rate - I read across the line for 1.7 :o


    We tried to tax a new Astra SportHatch van privately, as the CO2 emissions are listed on the RF100 (commercials usually state 999g/km or N/A), but the feckers rejected it, based on emissions. Can be taxed privatley, but based on engine size, so 471 for a 1.7 instead of 156 for emissions of 137g/km :mad:


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  • #12
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    101sean wrote: »
    There is a huge long thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056002732

    There are several ways of proving a business other than a VAT number.

    Yep, no need for two threads.

    Thread closed.


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