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Bastions, citadels etc.

  • 07-10-2010 3:51pm
    #1
    Smartypantsdig
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    I have a similar thread in Military due to the subject and a mod there suggested I post here too.

    I am trying to compile a list of sites in Dublin city and county where bastions/star-shaped forts or citadels may have been built or were planned to be built. I have identified a number of these but was wondering if there is anybody here who would have knowledge to add.

    These were mainly a 17th and 18th century phenomonon.


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  • #2
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Smartypantsdig wrote: »
    I have a similar thread in Military due to the subject and a mod there suggested I post here too.

    I am trying to compile a list of sites in Dublin city and county where bastions/star-shaped forts or citadels may have been built or were planned to be built. I have identified a number of these but was wondering if there is anybody here who would have knowledge to add.

    These were mainly a 17th and 18th century phenomonon.

    Can't help with Dublin, but I presume you have been to Charles fort near Kinsale in Cork. that is a very impressive fort.

    Are you going to publish your list? because i would be very interested in visiting a few of these. I grew up next to Fort Nelson, one of the Palmerston forts around Portsmouth and i believe there were effectively what the star shaped forts evolved into.

    http://johnsmilitaryhistory.com/ftnelson.html


  • #3
    Corsendonk
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    Have you read Fortress Ireland by John Hartnett McEnery?


  • #4
    dubhthach
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    Philips plan from 1685 has a massive proposed Citadel/Fort to be built east of St. Stephens Green in the area of the Merrion estate (Merrion street/Baggot Street/Fitzwilliam street). I don't have a electronic copy but going on the map published in the "Irish historic towns Atlas no. 19" it looks like it would have been a pentagon style fort with 5 bastions and with Ravelins between each bastion.

    De Gomme map from 1673 has a proposal for a pentagonal star-fort as well except in his case it would have completely occupied Ringsend. Which was just a narrow peninsular between the Dodder tidal zone and the sea.
    http://www.southdublinimages.ie/images/sdcc/1625.jpg

    Map gives an idea of how the area was with current map overlaid on it.


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