Gavin Quinnell Loses Sight in One Eye

johnnysexsmith

From the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/welsh/9056033.stm

Absolute disgrace, maybe disciplinary matters will be taken seriously now

was it an eye gouge? I skimmed the article but didnt see the cause.

shoutman

Citing complaint made as a result of this, but doesn't directly say eye gouging...

thomond2006

Jesus, poor fella.

outwest

Deleted User wrote: »

was it an eye gouge? I skimmed the article but didnt see the cause.

worse a stamp

PhatPiggins

outwest wrote: »

worse a stamp

Gouging is worse imo. Hope the f*cker gets jail time

TheOwl

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Gouging is worse imo. Hope the f*cker gets jail time

Was it an intentional stamp though? Seems like it would be extraordinarily difficult to have such precission to intentionally get a stud into someones eye socket. I wouldn't exactly call for jail time if its a case that the victim was on the ground and another player was over zealous with the boot but wasn't actually aiming for the eye. We see players stamping all the time in rugby : Flannery, Hayes and Heaslip being most recent examples.

PhatPiggins

TheOwl wrote: »

Was it an intentional stamp though? Seems like it would be extraordinarily difficult to have such precission to intentionally get a stud into someones eye socket.

Any stamp to the head is disgraceful. Would like to hear all the facts though.

TheOwl

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Any stamp to the head is disgraceful. Would like to hear all the facts though.

Did you think Heaslip and Hayes deserved jail time for their inciddents? Hayes stamped repeatedly on a prone player's head and Heaslip repeatedly stamped on the spine of McCaw. All I am saying is worse could of happened in these inciddents but no one thought the players should be jailed. Its unfortunate but unless intentional I dont think he should be given jail time.

PhatPiggins

TheOwl wrote: »

Did you think Heaslip and Hayes deserved jail time for their inciddents? Hayes stamped repeatedly on a prone player's head and Heaslip repeatedly stamped on the spine of McCaw.

First of all we don't know if it was a stamp or not but if it was Quinell would probably have had to received the stamp to the face to lose the eye!

I'm not going to post anymore till we have the all details

duckysauce

theres a second one too :eek:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07102010/58/police-investigate-player-blind-eye.html

lologram

TheOwl wrote: »

Its unfortunate but unless intentional I dont think he should be given jail time.

That's not how the law works regarding Assault. But as per PhatPiggins, I'm not going to comment either, until the facts emerge. Speculating on this is shoddy. What we do know for definite though is that a police investigation is under way. As it should be, based on what is alleged.

Teferi

That is terrible. Hope he gets good compensation. All the best to him.

TheOwl

TheOwl wrote: »

Did you think Heaslip and Hayes deserved jail time for their inciddents? Hayes stamped repeatedly on a prone player's head and Heaslip repeatedly stamped on the spine of McCaw. All I am saying is worse could of happened in these inciddents but no one thought the players should be jailed. Its unfortunate but unless intentional I dont think he should be given jail time.

For the record, heaslip didnt stamp on anyone. He gave a few knees to a prone player. He didnt "repeatedly stamp on the prone spine of McCaw". Lets not get dramatic, so keep your sensationalism and your redtop nonsense to yourself thanks.

mathepac

What dreadful tragedies to be visited on two young athletes and their families. My heart goes out to them.

murphym7

Sickened by this, again. There should be a threat of permanent bans from Rugby fields for any type of contact with the eye. Current measures are not working obviously - players need to be made feel so paranoid that if they even brush up against an eye they could face being excluded from the game forever. I would even go so far as to include reckless stamping too.

bamboozle

the respective rugby unions and disciplinary panels need to start recognising the fact that dangerous behaviour on the pitch needs to be eradicated be it gouging or stamping. Suitable fines need to be dished out for players based on the act committed not on the club/country/province they play for and not based on how few matches they can be suspended for.
it still sickens me to see how short a ban Burger got and how his idiotic coach tried to make fun of the incident.

johnnysexsmith

bamboozle wrote: »

the respective rugby unions and disciplinary panels need to start recognising the fact that dangerous behaviour on the pitch needs to be eradicated be it gouging or stamping. Suitable fines need to be dished out for players based on the act committed not on the club/country/province they play for and not based on how few matches they can be suspended for.
it still sickens me to see how short a ban Burger got and how his idiotic coach tried to make fun of the incident.

I agree 100%, an incident like this has been coming given the pathetic way dangerous incidents are being dealt with by the disciplinary panels.

CIARAN_BOYLE

johnnysexsmith wrote: »

I agree 100%, an incident like this has been coming given the pathetic way dangerous incidents are being dealt with by the disciplinary panels.

Definitely. Its important for the game and the safety of the players.

Whats more its important for improving the playerbase amoung the youth.

Incidents like this get parents from non Rugby background worried about allowing children to play Rugby.

Ian_K

We have to assume it was accidental until we hear otherwise - Rugby is a hugely physical sport with 20 stone plus guys running around at full tilt and serious injuries are bound to happen, calling for a player to be jailed is ridiculous unless indisputable evidence is there that he was trying to blind him.
Freak accidents happen, a guy in my class came very close this week to losing the sight in his eye after being struck by a rubber someone kicked across the room!

thomond2006

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-11822503

An arrest has been made.

amacachi

It says in that article that his career has been ended by this, seems a little bit early for that.

sickpuppy

amacachi wrote: »

It says in that article that his career has been ended by this, seems a little bit early for that.

Do you expect the man to play on with one eye?
I doubt he would be covered by insurance for a start.
Also after such a traumatic experience maybe the last thing he wants to do is play rugby again.
Also close one eye and try to imagine playing rugby with just the one eye
no way could you play properly and would be dangerous as well you wouldnts ee half of what was going on.

mathepac

sickpuppy wrote: »

... no way could you play properly and would be dangerous as well you wouldnts ee half of what was going on.

+1 and another injury could see him blinded

amacachi

sickpuppy wrote: »

Do you expect the man to play on with one eye?
I doubt he would be covered by insurance for a start.
Also after such a traumatic experience maybe the last thing he wants to do is play rugby again.
Also close one eye and try to imagine playing rugby with just the one eye
no way could you play properly and would be dangerous as well you wouldnts ee half of what was going on.

Barrie McDermott managed it in league and I'm there are examples in other sports.

Ciaran-Irl

amacachi wrote: »

Barrie McDermott managed it in league and I'm there are examples in other sports.

I thought he had said in an interview that he is retiring? In this modern & professional age, it is seriously unlikely that he could play to the required standard.

Hope the ****er that did it spends time in a prison.

socoto

The Quinnell family say they are shocked by the Welsh Rugby Union's decision to drop a citing complaint over an incident that led to Gavin Quinnell losing the sight of one eye.

That followed an investigation by Gwent Police who arrested the Cross Keys player and passed the case to the Crown Prosecution Service who advised against charges being brought.

hardCopy

socoto wrote: »

The Quinnell family say they are shocked by the Welsh Rugby Union's decision to drop a citing complaint over an incident that led to Gavin Quinnell losing the sight of one eye.

That followed an investigation by Gwent Police who arrested the Cross Keys player and passed the case to the Crown Prosecution Service who advised against charges being brought.

So the guy just gets away with zero punishment criminal or sporting?

That's a joke, I'd hope his own club would kick him out for that.

And now Cueto (unrelated case) gets off with six weeks for 'compelling mitigation'.

I've only played at junior level and have never seen it first hand but it seems to be rife at professional level.