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Natures "Big Bang"

  • 07-10-2010 10:44am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭


    Yet another club to beat those creationists over the head with....

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1007/breaking17.html

    Scientists led by researchers at the National University of Ireland in Maynooth have solved the mystery of how complex life formed.

    “Nature’s big bang” - when two single cells fused into one living organism - has been mapped for the first time by researchers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Nice. I imagine like most evolutionary processes, cells had been combining in one way or another for a few hundred million years, but none of the combinations ever "took" until this one had just the right conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Improbable


    Lynn Margulis will be doing a dance up on her office table. She believes that her theory of symbiotic relationships between different species of vast genetic separation, even in different kingdoms, are the driving force behind evolution rather than the slow accumulation of mutations which are selected through phenotype level natural selection. Though the two are not necessarily incompatible, many detesters of evolution as we know it will try to use this to break down evolution in general. Which is just silly seeing as it is still evolution, just in a different way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Evolution in a different way? Gimmie back my Lamarkism! (seemed like such a good idea at the time)

    In other news damning to Creationism, the world's oldest animal remains have been found, dating back some 635 million years. This ads to the mounting evidence against the 'Cambrian explosion' Creationists like to cite as evidence of a divine creator, despite them not actually believing in the Cambrian period...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    I admire your optimism but when has evidence has ever proven to be an effective 'club' against creationists before? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Who's going to tell JC this news.
    He loves the creation myth.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Ah! But where did the single cells come from!! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Ah! But where did the single cells come from!! :rolleyes:

    God, duh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    This is cool and all, but calling it a "Big Bang" is patently retarded. As if science, and evolution especially, didn't have enough difficulties with misunderstood nomenclature.

    According to the theory of the big bang (which is just a theory, fyi), multicellular life evolved randomly because those that were most athletically fit survived.

    People are stupid, stop making it harder for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    Ah! But where did the single cells come from!! :rolleyes:

    Half cells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Improbable


    Where are the transitional species between prokaryotes and eukaryotes!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Half cells.

    Which formed from quarter cells, presumably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    Naturally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Ah! But where did the single cells come from!! :rolleyes:



    God made them, the rest happened naturally, which was part of his divine creation plan to begin with. Just think of the universe as gods version of sea monkeys. just add water, rest happens itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    krudler wrote: »
    God made them, the rest happened naturally, which was part of his divine creation plan to begin with. Just think of the universe as gods version of sea monkeys. just add water, rest happens itself.

    I used to have sea monkeys, till my old flatmate accidentally knocked over the jar and killed them en masse.
    God must have clumsy flatmates too. But at least my flatmate mopped up the corpses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ColmDawson


    I used to have some too. I forgot about them after a while and they died in their own excrement because I wasn't cleaning the tank. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭virmilitaris


    Zillah wrote: »
    According to the theory of the big bang (which is just a theory, fyi), multicellular life evolved randomly because those that were most athletically fit survived.

    People are stupid, stop making it harder for them.

    I hope your joking ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭jayzusb.christ


    I used to have some too. I forgot about them after a while and they died in their own excrement because I wasn't cleaning the tank.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVnWxY_pPU0&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I used to have sea monkeys, till my old flatmate accidentally knocked over the jar and killed them en masse.
    God must have clumsy flatmates too.

    That's why we don't have dinosaurs anymore. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I hope your joking ?

    In this case "you're" is a contraction of "you are", which would necessitate an apostrophe, as I have just demonstrated. I thought evolutionists were supposed to be clever! Maybe it IS proof you evolved from monkeys lol :rolleyes::D:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    He is joking
    Zillah, not everyone is in on THAT joke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Zillah, not everyone is in on THAT joke.

    That's the fun of it dear! Way to ruin my fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭virmilitaris


    Zillah wrote: »
    In this case "you're" is a contraction of "you are", which would necessitate an apostrophe, as I have just demonstrated. I thought evolutionists were supposed to be clever! Maybe it IS proof you evolved from monkeys lol :rolleyes::D:pac:

    Sorry, it was pretty late. I need an internet sarcasm detector ;)


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