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9/11 FireFighters Discuss Explosions in the Lobby of world trade center (Video)
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07-10-2010 12:07am#1Explosions in the lobby ?
3 Explosions after the plane hit ?
Hmmm...
Who better to take information from ? These firemen who were there !!! or some "destined to fail" commission report ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYlEVCpG_0Comments
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Divorce Referendum wrote: »The first video if of guys who survived the collapse of the building. Plus there was apparently three explosions one after the other when the building collapsed if i hear correctly? I wouldnt expect the building to be really quiet when it is collapsing from 110 storeys high and there is debris piling down the liftshaft where Im standing or would you disagree?
Did you listen to what they said?, the lobby collapsed, "Definately a secondary explosion"R.Shackleford wrote: »Information from the firemen? The firemen who moments ago just had a building collapse on them, are in shock, injured, are full of adrenaline, scared and confused. yeah id say they could give and accurate account of what just went on in those conditions.
They know what their talking about, they don't seem to be hallucinating to me and know exactly what their saying and what they've experienced, why don't you call his sister and ask for his mobile number and ask him???
00 1 6312269595
Area Code:631
City/State:Heer Park, NY
ZIP (primary):11757
County:Suffolk
Type:Landline
Company/Carrier:Verizon New York, Inc.
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Funny how so many firemen all had the same wrong idea at the same time isn't it, agggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FFS, I know this **** is hard to swallow, but dont just make sh1t up to feel better inside.
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Divorce Referendum wrote: »Ya he said there was an explosion then the whole ****ing thing came down and then another explosion after that. Would that not be the building collapsing. Is a building collapsing quiet or something?
You are saying they were in the building when it collapsed ? LMFAO
Watch it again.. that's not what they are saying, it's as clear as day.
This is irrefutable evidence.
"it's not over, I'm telling you, any other building around here could blow up"
and building 7 did
R.Shackleford wrote: »Information from the firemen? The firemen who moments ago just had a building collapse on them, are in shock, injured, are full of adrenaline, scared and confused. yeah id say they could give and accurate account of what just went on in those conditions.
They are firemen, I would say they are well used to being "full of adrenaline, scared", they are trained to deal with high pressure under the most stressful situations.
As for being "confused", lol. They don't seem confused, they seem absolutely positive of what happened.
Either the lobby exploded on them, or it didn't.. do you think they all imagined the same nightmare or something ? LOLIm not going to doubt that this is what they firefighters thought happened.
However the word explosions covers alot of things that go on inside a building on fire.
A family member is a fireman and he says in a fire there are alot of explosions happening from alot of different sources.
Anyway id like to ask about the rigging it would have taken to set up this controlled demolition.
For it to be done soo quick to avoid detection it would have taken a **** load of men.
None of them questioned why are we rigging the twin towers for a controlled explosion?
None of them have come forward and said we rigged it?
Its a highly skilled job,youd need years of training to do it so they couldnt have hired some regluar schmucks to do it.
Its just doesnt add up that noone came forward about the rigging either before or after
Don't be concerned with that for the moment. First you need to accept that there were explosions in the lobby, get your head around that fact first.
You have been doubting this for so long now that it's really difficult for you to accept the truth.
Watch the video again.
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I already said i dont doubt that the firemen experienced that explosions but there were not demolition explosions.
So now i will concern myself with the rigging if you dont mind.How did it go unnoticed?
how did they not comment on it when they first entered the building?
Oh by the way testimony is not irrefutable evidence,if that were the case i could go out and say that anyone i want commited a murder and it would be irrefutable evidence.
Im not saying these firemen are lying im saying that they misunderstood there explosions.
Also why the big delay between the explosions?
The explosions go off then another one and another one.If that was a controlled demolition the explosions would be alot more than 3.
If they detonated the explosions the whole series of explosions would have taken at the very very most 10 seconds before the buildings started to collapse.definitely not enough time for the firefighters to leave.
controlled demolitions do not detonate explosives over a large length of time.its detonated quickly and in sequence.
But we'll ignore all that in favour of a radical idea which just doesnt add up.
Youve been doubting the official report so long its difficult for you to accept the truth.
Your the one doubting the truth, maybe the buildings were rigged while the maintanence work was being carried out before 9/11, whoever did it weren't aware of what they were installing, explosives can be disguised as something else, these firemen are pretty sure of what happened, plenty more firemen must have imagined the exact same thing that day, everybody imagining something that didn't happen just doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
Heres a few that had time to calm down.
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Fits with what many of the 'debunkers' even believe... that they had some info on the hijackers beforehand and didn't put it together and covered their inept looking asses.
No comment on the explosions in the lobby ?
Maybe an aeroplane engine or fuel fell down the elevator shaft, 80 or so floors, to ground level and exploded several times eah ? lol0 -
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So you say he's the one doubting the truth then use the word maybe to describe what happened. I wouldn't doubt that many people heard what sounded like explosions. I was a witness to a car crash some years ago and it sounded exactly like an explosion but it wasn't. These big buildings were on fire too so I'd safely say that some items may have indeed exploded when burned.
A few points I'd raise...- Thermite doesn't explode
- Controlled demolition is very distinctive (hundreds of videos on the net to show this). But no evidence of that at the WTC or residue afterwards.
- To my understand there are no NYFD people claiming the collapses were anything but caused by the planes. And no NYFD people appear on the lists of those claiming a CT.
- How did they get the large amount of thermite, many tonnes into the buildings without being seen?
- How did they get explosives into the buildings without being seen?
- How did they cut holes in many walls to fit the explosives without being seen?
- How did they cut holes in many walls and weld on the apparatus that would need to be used to get thermite to work (if it even can be done) without being seen?
- How did no one see all the cabling?
- Why didn't the crashes set off the very 'flammable' thermite or the explosives?
- Why didn't crashes cut the cables to the explosives or to the thermite?
- How did they manage to get the thermite or explosives into the exact spots the planes hit?
I used the word "maybe" because I was not there, I couldn't use the word "definately" for the exact same reason, comprehend?
All your questions are your shield of denial, any explosives or anything else would have been in the maintanence/service area's of the building where the average worker would not see.
The explosives could have been remote devices, set off from the command centre in WTC7, "could" again because I was not there setting it off.
Asking me what you had for breakfast would be similar to what your asking me to answer here.
Listen I can't convince you or anybody else of anything, I found that out a long time ago.
All I have to go by are the words of FDNY who were at the scene, you weren't yet you can say these people imagined it all, it could be funny in another situation, but this is a little more serious.
Also there is enough evidence of demolition charges going off as the tower came down, live in denial all you want, I'll see it for what it was, you can read the commission report and feel safe, I'll look at the overwhelming evidence and go by that, we'll agree to disagree.
Here's more people with vivid imaginations.....maybe they put some LSD in the NY water supply that day and everybody was hallucinating.
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I used the word "maybe" because I was not there, I couldn't use the word "definately" for the exact same reason, comprehend?
All your questions are your shield of denial, any explosives or anything else would have been in the maintanence/service area's of the building where the average worker would not see.
The explosives could have been remote devices, set off from the command centre in WTC7, "could" again because I was not there setting it off.
Asking me what you had for breakfast would be similar to what your asking me to answer here.
Listen I can't convince you or anybody else of anything, I found that out a long time ago.
All I have to go by are the words of FDNY who were at the scene, you weren't yet you can say these people imagined it all, it could be funny in another situation, but this is a little more serious.
Also there is enough evidence of demolition charges going off as the tower came down, live in denial all you want, I'll see it for what it was, you can read the commission report and feel safe, I'll look at the overwhelming evidence and go by that, we'll agree to disagree.
Here's more people with vivid imaginations.....maybe they put some LSD in the NY water supply that day and everybody was hallucinating.
Answer the man's (reasonable) questions - don't hide behind YouTube videos.
By the way - was the US also behind the 'controlled demolition' of the USS Cole the year before, or was that actually Al-Qaeda? Who put the explosions in the Pentagon - I'm sure security must be pretty lax there too, right?0 -
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Did you listen to what they said?, the lobby collapsed, "Definately a secondary explosion"
They know what their talking about, they don't seem to be hallucinating to me and know exactly what their saying and what they've experienced, why don't you call his sister and ask for his mobile number and ask him???
00 1 6312269595
Area Code:631
City/State:Heer Park, NY
ZIP (primary):11757
County:Suffolk
Type:Landline
Company/Carrier:Verizon New York, Inc.
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Funny how so many firemen all had the same wrong idea at the same time isn't it, agggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FFS, I know this **** is hard to swallow, but dont just make sh1t up to feel better inside.
Yeah mate ill give her a call now, Id ask Jim corr if i could use his phone but ive heard hes a bit tight on money!!0 -
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So you say he's the one doubting the truth then use the word maybe to describe what happened. I wouldn't doubt that many people heard what sounded like explosions. I was a witness to a car crash some years ago and it sounded exactly like an explosion but it wasn't. These big buildings were on fire too so I'd safely say that some items may have indeed exploded when burned.
A few points I'd raise...- Thermite doesn't explode NEVER SAID IT DID!
- Controlled demolition is very distinctive (hundreds of videos on the net to show this). But no evidence of that at the WTC or residue afterwards. THE WHOLE SITE WAS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE ONES COVERING IT UP
- To my understand there are no NYFD people claiming the collapses were anything but caused by the planes. And no NYFD people appear on the lists of those claiming a CT. FDNY WERE DISCUSSING BOMBS IN THE OP VIDEO AND PLENTY OF OTHERS, SOME OF WHICH ARE POSTED IN THIS VERY THREAD
- How did they get the large amount of thermite, many tonnes into the buildings without being seen? UNDER FALSE PRETENCES
- How did they get explosives into the buildings without being seen?UNDER FALSE PRETENCES
- How did they cut holes in many walls to fit the explosives without being seen? NO NEED TO DO THAT
- How did they cut holes in many walls and weld on the apparatus that would need to be used to get thermite to work (if it even can be done) without being seen? NO NEED TO DO THAT
- How did no one see all the cabling? IT JUST MINGLED IN WITH THE OTHER THOUSANDS OF OTHER CABLES THAT WOULD BE THERE
- Why didn't the crashes set off the very 'flammable' thermite or the explosives? THEY WERE KNOCKED OFF THE BUILDING BY THE IMPACT AND WERENT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE BEAM TO BREAK IT, ALSO THERE IS EVIDENCE OF MOLTEN METAL SPILLING FROM THE WTC A SHORT TIME LATER
- Why didn't crashes cut the cables to the explosives or to the thermite? IT DID, THE BUILDING STARTED TO COLLAPSE BELOW THE IMPACT SO BROKEN CABLE WOULDN'T BE A FACTOR
- How did they manage to get the thermite or explosives into the exact spots the planes hit? THEY KNEW WHERE THE PLANES WERE GOING TO HIT, MUCH LIKE THEIR GUIDED MISSILES
I was in belfast as a child, in Ardoyne and a bomb went off in the city centre, I witnessed a tower block in ballymun being demolished by controlled explosion, I've witnessed a very bad crash, the sound is very different, the BOOM from explosives and the shockwave is very distinct, something I'm sure the firefighters noticed and didn't confuse.0 -
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