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Buying a car in the UK and avoiding VRT

  • 06-10-2010 9:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭


    Hey all,
    Just wondering is it still possible to buy a car in the uk when living there and bring it back 6 months later.
    My brother is doing a masters in newcastle and I was thinking of getting him to get a car for our mother. Keep it in his name when he comes back and get her insured on it?

    Anyone see any flaws?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    terencemc wrote: »
    Hey all,
    Just wondering is it still possible to buy a car in the uk when living there and bring it back 6 months later.
    My brother is doing a masters in newcastle and I was thinking of getting him to get a car for our mother. Keep it in his name when he comes back and get her insured on it?

    Anyone see any flaws?

    Yep, the VRT rebate doesn't apply to students. If everyone obeyed the law this would be a much better country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Mike...


    No need to say he is a student, I done it a few years ago and plan to do it again soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Well if you cannot produce tax records for uk, it wont work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Confab wrote: »
    Yep, the VRT rebate doesn't apply to students. If everyone obeyed the law this would be a much better country.

    What are you jabbering on about ?

    a) Its a retarded law - why should students not be allowed the same right to import as someone working over there ?
    b) The handful of people doing this each year as students will not make a blind bit of difference to the state of this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    In before the VRT debate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Grimreaper666


    terencemc wrote: »

    Anyone see any flaws?

    The only flaw I see it that we're being ripped off with VRT in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    If students don't qualify, then unfortunately it's a non-runner I'm afraid.


    And just a quick reminder for all - as per the Charter, advocating or encouraging tax evasion isn't on.
    Neither is debating whether VRT is legal or morally correct (outside the VRT megathread).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    There was a thread a day or two ago about a student who was in the uk 3 years, and couldn't use the VRT amnesty as he had no proof of work, etc. He was considering returning the car to the uk. Thread was called 'VRT 400 euro on citroen' or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Grimreaper666


    -Chris- wrote: »
    If students don't qualify, then unfortunately it's a non-runner I'm afraid.


    And just a quick reminder for all - as per the Charter, advocating or encouraging tax evasion isn't on.
    Neither is debating whether VRT is legal or morally correct (outside the VRT megathread).

    That's if it was a fair tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    -Chris- wrote: »
    If students don't qualify, then unfortunately it's a non-runner I'm afraid.


    And just a quick reminder for all - as per the Charter, advocating or encouraging tax evasion isn't on.
    Neither is debating whether VRT is legal or morally correct (outside the VRT megathread).

    It's tax avoidance as opposed to tax evasion two very different things in the eyes of the law!!! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    That's if it was a fair tax.

    FFS, morally correct = fair :rolleyes:
    Shane732 wrote: »
    It's tax avoidance as opposed to tax evasion two very different things in the eyes of the law!!! :D

    Finding out that students aren't covered by the exemption and then deciding to pretend that you're not a student is evasion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That's if it was a fair tax.

    There are many things in life that are not fair. Tax is one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    -Chris- wrote: »
    Finding out that students aren't covered by the exemption and then deciding to pretend that you're not a student is evasion.

    Of course it is - I was going by the name of the thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I guess the lesson here is if anyone plans to go to uk and avail of the exemption as a student, they should see if having a part time job would get them around this before arriving back with a uk reg car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    part time job, minimum wage for 6 months would create the UK tax records?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    That's if it was a fair tax.

    no taxes are fair ;)

    as stated already if he had a part time job it would be a valid way around it I'm sure. plus it would mean he's not freeloading on your parents the whole time he's in college :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    Afaik even if he gets away with the VRT exemption your mother still won't be able to drive it nor will he be able to sell it until he has owned it in Ireland for a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    Afaik even if he gets away with the VRT exemption your mother still won't be able to drive it nor will he be able to sell it until he has owned it in Ireland for a year.
    if it's exempt, it's only the selling of it, that's stopped.

    He can insure his mother as a named main driver on it, then sell it to her, and she can insure it then.
    (she can't insure a car she isn't the legal owner of)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    Bogger77 wrote: »
    if it's exempt, it's only the selling of it, that's stopped.

    He can insure his mother as a named main driver on it, then sell it to her, and she can insure it then.
    (she can't insure a car she isn't the legal owner of)

    I thought it was only the owner and their husband/wife who could drive the car for the first year in the country.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought it was only the owner and their husband/wife who could drive the car for the first year in the country.

    I'm almost 100% sure its just selling it. I had to hold my car for a year after bringing it in and nowhere on any documentation did it mention anything other than not being allowed to sell it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    I'm almost 100% sure its just selling it. I had to hold my car for a year after bringing it in and nowhere on any documentation did it mention anything other than not being allowed to sell it.


    Can anyone confirm this either way 100%?

    Regardless though, am I not right in thinking that the main driver (i.e. not named) must in reality be the main driver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭frank gooding


    How many of us were Ahem named drivers on our first cars.

    Hands up I was.

    If you can't let Mammy drive your car after all she has done for ye what is this countrry coming to.


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