Passat BlueMotion Sets MPG record

homer90

Powered by a 1.6-liter common rail TDI engine with stop-start technology and equipped with low-rolling resistance tires, longer gearing and aerodynamics modifications, the Passat BlueMotion is one heck of an example of efficient motoring and Conway's drive put the vehicle's fuel-sipping abilities to the test. Conway hit the French autoroutes to determine just how far the efficient Passat could travel on a single tank, which holds 20.4 gallons of diesel. During his three-day record-setting run, Conway averaged 45 miles per hour and discovered that the BlueMotion's efficiency was simply amazing. After completing the journey, the Volkswagen Passat clocked 1,526.63 miles, setting a Guinness World Record for the longest distance traveled by a production passenger car on a single tank of fuel

1,527 MILES ON ONE TANK: PASSAT BLUEMOTION SETS NEW WORLD RECORD





Just bought a Prius did we ??? .... SHAME !!!

Although not real world, its still pretty damn impressive

ytareh

Yeah very impressive over 89mpg - but that AA van behind it is very close for an official record attempt ...I wonder would it be helping or hindering it ?

homer90

ytareh wrote: »

Yeah very impressive over 89mpg - but that AA van behind it is very close for an official record attempt ...I wonder would it be helping or hindering it ?

Its there for back up, in case the Pass@ spits out its DMF or DPF or Injector or fuel pump or ..............:D:D

mullingar

equipped with low-rolling resistance tires,

= poor grip and probably a hard compound

longer gearing

= 0-60 in about 20 minutes

averaged 45 miles per hour

= how boring, travelling on motorways and only averaging 45mph?

Probably staying at 1krpm and staying off-boost

production passenger car

Who would buy this as a production car?

A 1.4 petrol Octavia would probably out perform it in every way including comfort
/rant over

89mpg is impressive though!

Matt Simis

mullingar wrote: »

A 1.4 petrol Octavia would probably out perform it in every way including comfort
/rant over

Having been in a 1.4 Octavia I can assure you it doesnt have the ability to out perform a pram and has the interior of a cardboard box. The Passat is a regular car aside some some minor modifications and the difference in quality of build between an Octavia and Passat are immense. Let alone the piss poor 1.4.
Infact compared to Golf TDI and Prius MPG trials, this is at least a car you can carry 5 at ease in.

GTE

mullingar wrote: »

= poor grip and probably a hard compound

= 0-60 in about 20 minutes

= how boring, travelling on motorways and only averaging 45mph?

Probably staying at 1krpm and staying off-boost


Who would buy this as a production car?

A 1.4 petrol Octavia would probably out perform it in every way including comfort
/rant over

89mpg is impressive though!

The tyres maybe but Im not convinced on that yet as I run low resistance tyres and I havent felt any less grip out there in the real world.

0 to 60 time wouldnt matter to someone who wanted a cost effective car. Feck it, my 90hp AGR is probably worse and I dont mind it when I need to save the pennies.

Boring is subjective, it would be boring for me so maybe we would be better off with better gearing.

What does the RPM have to do with anything?

Id imagine the gearing would be such that anything below the cruising gears would be still normal enough. Id love a 6th year or a longer (I think thats the correct term) 5th gear on my car.

I like the idea of it anyway. Having those sort of mods made to the 2.0 TDI and higher would be able a step in the right direction thought I dont know if it would make a huge difference.


This is where I think the money should be spent. Improving petrol and diesel performance further while a replacement for them is developed. Not fannying about with electric cars that have to rely on batteries.

shedweller

mullingar wrote: »

= poor grip and probably a hard compound

Got figures?

= 0-60 in about 20 minutes

Eh, thats actually 12.4 seconds

= how boring, travelling on motorways and only averaging 45mph?

Whats your average speed on your commute? Ok, it may be more but not much. Although i would like to see its mpg at various speeds all the way to motorway speeds.

Probably staying at 1krpm and staying off-boost

Based on the gearing that is probably true but how is that a bad thing?

Who would buy this as a production car?

I would but i suspect it will drink fuel like any other at normal speeds and with more than a driver in it. I test drove a peugeot 308 hdi in the "how low can you go" promotion and it was not really different than any other car in terms of mpg. Ok, it did stellar mpg at 80 kph but small rises in the road made it drink fuel like any other car. Net result was that it was no different.

89mpg is impressive though!

That it is!:)
Here is a link to the actual spec of the car:
http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/volkswagen/volkswagen-passat-bluemotion-1.6-tdi-4dr.asp

shedweller

bbk wrote: »

This is where I think the money should be spent. Improving petrol and diesel performance further while a replacement for them is developed. Not fannying about with electric cars that have to rely on batteries.

True but did you see the new jag? It's got two jet turbines powering a battery pack that powers motors in the wheels. Does 200 mph AND gan get 30 something mpg. Not to mention the jet sound while driving!!:D

-Corkie-

mullingar wrote: »

= poor grip and probably a hard compound

= 0-60 in about 20 minutes

= how boring, travelling on motorways and only averaging 45mph?

Probably staying at 1krpm and staying off-boost


Who would buy this as a production car?

A 1.4 petrol Octavia would probably out perform it in every way including comfort
/rant over

89mpg is impressive though!

Have you facts to back all this up. Have you driven this car? The answer I would suspect is no. You can drive at what ever speed you want to on a motorway not 45mph. Dont be jealous of this efficent car. Most likely you have just purchased a Prius or drive a clapped out fuel guzzler...:)

Damien360

There are a few of those 1.6 105bhp comfortline passats in the company, new this year. Lovely spec but the engine is crap. I have driven it and hated it.

0-60 in 12.4 secs and it bloody well feels like it. Not safe for overtaking at all.

Turbo does not kick in until 2500 revs and is all out of puff by 3500 revs

It has 5 gears and they are all very long gears.

Real world figures is close to 45mpg for a few guys. This is because they keep it in fourth just to keep a bit of power. For those that use the 5th gear, typically 55mpg. 2 guys came from focus vans and one from a 1.9tdi 105bhp passat and all say it is very underpowered to the point of dangerous.

mullingar

I should have added in a few extra bits to clarify my rant :D:D

It was comparing real world driving to that modified passat

From my experience from driving low resistance tyres, they would never match the grip of a soft compound high grip tyre,alas no proof.
Hard compound tyres dont dig into the tarmac as deep as soft compound and therefore naturally improves the rolling resistance at a loss of grip.

45mph?

Who would drive around the 100's miles motorway network of France at 45mph? probably less than 1% real world drivers. 45mph was probably calculated by VW as the peak efficiency speed for the aerodynamics/modified gear ratio.

That modified gear ratio would drastically reduce the standard 0-60 from 12.4s as quoted above to at least 20 secs. They *may* have just changed the top gear cog only, but any tiny gradient would defeat it.

The engine was probably de-tuned too adding a few more seconds to the 0-60.

Yes all these mods are great for mpg, but not suitable in the real world.

I wonder if the car was stripped out a bit too (eg spare wheel, hence AA van)


Jesus, Im such a cynical fekcer with these mpg claims

-Corkie-

Well a simple thing to do would be to put on normal tyres when the first ones go bald. That will be at around 15k btw. Then get it remapped and bobs your uncle. You could also buy the 2.0 tdi. Its in the same vrt/motortax category and has plenty of power..

PattheMetaller

homer90 wrote: »

Its there for back up, in case the Pass@ spits out its DMF or DPF or Injector or fuel pump or ..............:D:D

....Turbo (unless that's what the ancronims are )

Matt Simis

PattheMetaller wrote: »

....Turbo (unless that's what the ancronims are )

Nah you are in the clear:
DPF: Diesel Particulate Filter (sits in the exhaust gathering up particles then burns them off at intervals.. unless you dont drive far enough then it just gunks up)
DMF: Dual Mass Flywheel (flywheel with extra noise and vibration absorption abilities that costs a lot to replace)

rugbyman

when i divide 1526 miles by 20.4 gallns i get almost 75 mpg not 89

many yars ago there used be economy runs in ireland, though it is hard to imagine ,i rcall someone did 80 mpg ish in an opel rekord. like a dream to me, some of you computer whiz kids can prob check in a micra second (yes, pun intended)
rugbyman

Mr Benevolent

I suspect the AA van is there for a reason. It's a Passat after all.

benj

Confab wrote: »

I suspect the AA van is there for a reason. It's a Passat after all.

Passat is the finest family car on the road.....wish i couldafford one:)

bazz26

benj wrote: »

Passat is the finest family car on the road.....wish i couldafford one:)

The Passat is ok, does nothing particularly special enough to stand out from the crowd. Maybe you should test drive the competition.

Mr Benevolent

benj wrote: »

Passat is the finest family car on the road.....wish i couldafford one:)

Ah god, the innocence!

squod

It's doing about 75mpg. Not a record by any means.

BostonB

Why are you giving out about the performance of car doing a MPG record.

You might as well complain about trying to fit a family of 4 and their luggage for a weekend into a S2000.

bbk

bbk wrote: »

This is where I think the money should be spent. Improving petrol and diesel performance further while a replacement for them is developed. Not fannying about with electric cars that have to rely on batteries.

What ? A replacement to petrol and diesel cars that are not battery powered ? Also this replacement should be developed without much money ??

lassykk

it's not the record for mpg... it's the most miles out of a tank of fuel. It's brilliant economy don't get me wrong but a 20 gallon tank is rather sizeable and there are other car's out there capable of 75mpg

Max Power1

lassykk wrote: »

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how many of them are the same size/weight as the passat?

Most cars that can do 75mpg are either fugly impractical hybrids or tiny cars like a 1.0 lupo.

Edit- or unreliable french econoboxes that will develop electrical problems within 50k miles.

Zubeneschamali

This Bluemotion nonsense is not really new. Anyone remember the Golf Formel E?

Zubeneschamali

Max Power1 wrote: »

Most cars that can do 75mpg are either fugly impractical hybrids or tiny cars like a 1.0 lupo.

No, they aren't.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Average fuel consumption achieved by the winning drivers:[/FONT]

1. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 308 HDi FAP 110 – 89.95 mpg[/FONT]
2. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 207 HDi 90 – 87.10 mpg[/FONT]
3. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 5008 HDi FAP 110 – 84.77 mpg[/FONT]
4. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 3008 HDi FAP 110 – 79.10 mpg[/FONT]

That's 85 mpg from a factory-standard 7 seater MPV.

Zubeneschamali

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

This Bluemotion nonsense is not really new. Anyone remember the Golf Formel E?

I remember the Polo Coupe Formul E

lassykk

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

No, they aren't.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Average fuel consumption achieved by the winning drivers:[/FONT]

1. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 308 HDi FAP 110 – 89.95 mpg[/FONT]
2. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 207 HDi 90 – 87.10 mpg[/FONT]
3. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 5008 HDi FAP 110 – 84.77 mpg[/FONT]
4. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Peugeot 3008 HDi FAP 110 – 79.10 mpg[/FONT]

That's 85 mpg from a factory-standard 7 seater MPV.

thank you... that was the info I was looking for but I'm on a mobile so hard to research properly.

my 8 year old 2.2 hdi can knock out 60-65mpg on a spin so another 10mpg from a car driving at 45mph is nothing to be excited about.

I find it amusing that someone shouting the virtues of a vw can complain about French electrics... my fiance's 09 polo in two years has had new electric windows switches and regulator, a new stalk system (wipers, indicators) and new internal central locking switches. To me its German electronics that aren't worth a slap

BostonB

lassykk wrote: »

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Its still pointless complaining about the performance of a car modified for economy. Its not like this is a 335D. Likewise, If you are driving for economy you don't drive for performance.

Personally I like the idea of lightweight diesel for economy. Something like the 3L Lupo. But an eco family car is a different thing entirely. Hence the Passat.