A prison ship lies waiting in the bay

sagat2

Prisons an inefficient overcrowded revolving door that cost the tax payers a fortune.

Average cost per prisoner per year is €100,000. For the nasty bunch in Portlaoise it's over €250,000 even minimum security prisoners cost over €80,000 per year. At such prices we might as well lock them up in The Ritz-Carlton Powerscourt with a Gordon Ramsey prix fixe and a lovely view of the Sugar Loaf.

Why does Ireland bear such a heavy financial burden for the misdeeds of it's naughty children when somebody else could do it for a knock down price? I propose we enter into an incarceration agreement with another country whereby we cough up a small fee and send them our scumbags. There's plenty of potential partners out there, take Somalia for example offer them €10,000 per scumbag. At that price the Somali's could probably provide a secure, safe and healthy prison environment with limited risk of escape: spot the pasty junkie in the tracksuit being chased through the desert by children wielding AK-47's and machetes. Niger and Uganda would also be perfect for the job.

phasers

How the fcuk does it cost €100,000 per prisoner? Are they wiping their arses with 50 euro notes?

Superbus

LOW LIE THE FIELDS...

No.

Scuid Mhór

i think sagat2 has very interesting economic theories.

BluesBerry

Is england now going to make their prisoners work 40hr week inside

Our prisons need sweat shops like sewing purses, chain gangs and stuff that would tire the scum out

not gyms beauty salons x boxes and tv's :mad:

JohnathanM

sagat2 wrote: »

... spot the pasty junkie in the tracksuit being chased through the desert by children wielding AK-47's and machetes. Niger and Uganda would also be perfect for the job.

You could make a game show from that, and then it wouldn't cost us anything.

galwayrush

We're going to need a lot of prisons for people who won't be able to pay all the new stealth taxes on the way.:rolleyes:

JONJO THE MISER

Happens in a lot of states in America where they transfer there prisoners out of state.
Its a great idea but i think we should privatise the prison system first, i bet you some private company could house prisoners for less than 25,000 per person per year.

Oranage2

sagat2 wrote: »

Prisons an inefficient overcrowded revolving door that cost the tax payers a fortune.

Average cost per prisoner per year is €100,000. For the nasty bunch in Portlaoise it's over €250,000 even minimum security prisoners cost over €80,000 per year. At such prices we might as well lock them up in The Ritz-Carlton Powerscourt with a Gordon Ramsey prix fixe and a lovely view of the Sugar Loaf.

Why does Ireland bear such a heavy financial burden for the misdeeds of it's naughty children when somebody else could do it for a knock down price? I propose we enter into an incarceration agreement with another country whereby we cough up a small fee and send them our scumbags. There's plenty of potential partners out there, take Somalia for example offer them €10,000 per scumbag. At that price the Somali's could probably provide a secure, safe and healthy prison environment with limited risk of escape: spot the pasty junkie in the tracksuit being chased through the desert by children wielding AK-47's and machetes. Niger and Uganda would also be perfect for the job.

I'm sure some rights movement would disagree with this but i love the idea.
If we send them to China they'd be shot and their organs sold which makes an agreement with china profitable

Rented Mule

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Happens in a lot of states in America where they transfer there prisoners out of state.
Its a great idea but i think we should privatise the prison system first, i bet you some private company could house prisoners for less than 25,000 per person per year.

Prisons are one of the leading industries in Texas.

strobe

sagat2 wrote: »

Prisons an inefficient overcrowded revolving door that cost the tax payers a fortune.

Average cost per prisoner per year is €100,000. For the nasty bunch in Portlaoise it's over €250,000 even minimum security prisoners cost over €80,000 per year. At such prices we might as well lock them up in The Ritz-Carlton Powerscourt with a Gordon Ramsey prix fixe and a lovely view of the Sugar Loaf.

Why does Ireland bear such a heavy financial burden for the misdeeds of it's naughty children when somebody else could do it for a knock down price? I propose we enter into an incarceration agreement with another country whereby we cough up a small fee and send them our scumbags. There's plenty of potential partners out there, take Somalia for example offer them €10,000 per scumbag. At that price the Somali's could probably provide a secure, safe and healthy prison environment with limited risk of escape: spot the pasty junkie in the tracksuit being chased through the desert by children wielding AK-47's and machetes. Niger and Uganda would also be perfect for the job.

.....can't even be bothered.......

Yawns

I'd be happy if they just started by taking the x-boxes, ps3s and tvs out. Give them to children's hospitals or something. They would be far more appreciated there than in a prison. Only in Ireland tho

Einhard

Oh God no, not another one of these threads...:(

AnonoBoy

I see a ship in the harbour?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1IsJEOVfnw

RMD

Yup, I hate this whole humanitarian aspect of the prison system.

20 to a cell, chain gangs 10 hours a day, ****e food, bare essentials given to them. That will stop many of them re-offending.

Jeboa Safari

They should to do hard labour, or at least clean up rubbish around the community, do something useful

mikemac

If the county council don't have the funding to clean beaches well now we have a solution

Plus being out on a beach collecting rubbish is better then being confined to a cell

Dudess

BluesBerry wrote: »

not gyms beauty salons x boxes and tv's :mad:

But... but... the beauty salons! What about John Gilligan's weekly eyelash tint...?!

karlog

Ship them to Madagascar.

Jeboa Safari

karlog wrote: »

Ship them to Madagascar.

Too good for them, somewhere up near the arctic circle or Siberia would be more suitable

Dudess

Don't be such a ****ing soft touch ya hippie! The Australian Outback - and they can like it! :mad:

AnonoBoy

Ovens.

Big ovens.

Burn 'em all I say.





Too far?

I can never seem to get the balance right between lefto-pinkie-liberal and far-right-neo-facist.

Pace2008

In this thread: people with an in-depth knowledge of Ireland's judicial and prison system, and balanced, educated views on same.

gurramok

I thought the title of this thread was about Fields of Athenry, ya know about the prison ship in Botany Bay

kowloon

Dudess wrote: »

Don't be such a ****ing soft touch ya hippie! The Australian Outback - and they can like it! :mad:

They could be make chisel Ayers rock into the shape of a duck!

upandcumming

How much is a bullet?

starbelgrade

gurramok wrote: »

I thought the title of this thread was about Fields of Athenry, ya know about the prison ship in Botany Bay

No. It's for people from Lobotomy Bay posting their enlightened views on the criminal justice system.

The_Minister

RMD wrote: »

Yup, I hate this whole humanitarian aspect of the prison system.

20 to a cell, chain gangs 10 hours a day, ****e food, bare essentials given to them. That will stop many of them re-offending.

Can you back up that statement?

AFAIR, all the evidence points the other way - inhuman treatment increases inhumanity.

Paparazzo

We should eat the prisoners

up for anything

I hate you, OP. Thanks to the title of this thread I have Roger Whittaker taking over my brain and vocal cords. :mad:

Guy:Incognito

There should be a button on the summit of everest. Any prisoner that pushes the button can go free. They get a sliced pan , a 2 litre bottle of ballygowan and a pair of bermuda shorts (in extra bright colours with ridiculous patterns)

Paddycrumlinman

"HEY HEY LET THE FREE BIRDS SING" :P

Seriously, Prison time in my book should be hard time. If you commit the crime you do the appropriate time. None of this pampered nonsense either.

I am sure the Victims of Criminals would feel better if they knew their perpetrator was woken at 5:30am, had slop for breakfast then hit the field and spent 12 hours breaking rocks or something other than what they want to do.

I live in the US and a 1/4 of weed will get you 6 months in County Jail. I don't feel that the length of a sentence will deter people from committing crimes. I believe its down to the circumstance of the Individual which determines the Criminality activities they engage in.

My point is that too many People who have committed horrible crimes, especially in Ireland simply get way with it and move on with their lives.

Jail time should be hard time at minimal cost (depending on the crime, sensibility and all that) to the state and tax payer. Something should be figured out so that some costs of imprisonment are offset due to the prisoners contribution IE working for the states benefit and actually paying something back to society for their crimes.

RoundyMooney

The_Minister wrote: »

Can you back up that statement?

AFAIR, all the evidence points the other way - inhuman treatment increases inhumanity.

Only if you let 'em out again.