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Planning permission

  • 05-10-2010 7:56pm
    #1
    David09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if this "concealed" planning notice for a substantial development can be considered to be incorrectly displayed and therefore grounds for the application to be dismissed?


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  • #2
    Skulduggery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭Skulduggery


    Hi David.

    I use to work for an arcitectural company and if we erected a site notice that was as inconspicuous as that, the council wouldn't accept it. Its suppose to be an obvious location so as someone walking or even driving past can see it. I'm not sure if its your photogaph but initally when I saw it it was hard to even see the notice, it looks like a piece of paper on the ground!

    Cant see it flying with the council.


  • #3
    Super-Rush
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    Moved from Carlow forum.


  • #4
    sinnerboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    In my opinion the planning official should declare the application invalid as the site notice is not clearly displayed


  • #5
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,452 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    sinnerboy wrote: »
    In my opinion the planning official should declare the application invalid as the site notice is not clearly displayed

    Would have to agree.


  • #6
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,555 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    sinnerboy wrote: »
    In my opinion the planning official should declare the application invalid as the site notice is not clearly displayed
    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Would have to agree.
    +1


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  • #7
    David09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭David09


    super-rush wrote: »
    Moved from Carlow forum.

    Thanks, I was unsure as to where to post the topic.


  • #8
    David09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭David09


    sinnerboy wrote: »
    In my opinion the planning official should declare the application invalid as the site notice is not clearly displayed


    As of today, that is exactly what happened. We will just have to keep a close eye open to see if another application will issue.


  • #9
    radar0976
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭radar0976


    David09 wrote: »
    Just wondering if this "concealed" planning notice for a substantial development can be considered to be incorrectly displayed and therefore grounds for the application to be dismissed?


    Image097.jpg

    Yes I reckon so. I'm just in the process of applying for planning at the moment and nearly there. I was told that the notice needs to be visible by someone driving past on the public road and that they can pull in and read it without getting out of the car. Sounds bizarre but that is what I was told!


  • #10
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    David09 wrote: »
    Just wondering if this "concealed" planning notice for a substantial development can be considered to be incorrectly displayed and therefore grounds for the application to be dismissed?

    ...yes, it's not properly displayed, and so contravenes the application process. However, that's a long way short of a valid objection, let alone grounds for an objection to the development to succeed.........a new application can be lodged in the morning.......

    ...is there more to this story than the pic, I wonder..........??

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  • #11
    Mellor
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    radar0976 wrote: »
    Yes I reckon so. I'm just in the process of applying for planning at the moment and nearly there. I was told that the notice needs to be visible by someone driving past on the public road and that they can pull in and read it without getting out of the car. Sounds bizarre but that is what I was told!
    That's not quite true, it may be a rule of thumb for some LAs, but the BASIC requirements are just that its on an A4 page at the boundary. Often roads aren't close enough to site to read, but it should be in a place where people walking by can read it, this may mean a notice that is outside the boundary.
    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...yes, it's not properly displayed, and so contravenes the application process. However, that's a long way short of a valid objection, let alone grounds for an objection to the development to succeed.........a new application can be lodged in the morning.......
    I was thinking this myself. THe OP appeared a little vextitious.
    Basically, if the PP in the OP had yet to be validated, then there was still plenty of time for an objection, make neighbours aware etc.


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  • #12
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    has the 5 week period expired yet?

    the council come out and inspect the notice themselves... they will deem whether the site notice is valid or not.

    personally i would not include this in an objection because it is a validation issues, not a planning issue. In objections, deal specifically with planning issues as arise in CDPs, LAPs etc... not in the P+D act


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