If they bring in water charges.....

Johnny Utah

will it become too expensive to wash the car at home?

I always wash the car in the driveway because I know that I can do a better job myself and it avoids using the automatic car washes at the garage which can damage the paintwork. However, if the water charges are high, it may put an end to washing the car at home.


Any thoughts.....

johnos1984

Johnny Utah wrote: »

will it become too expensive to wash the car at home?

Wash it when its raining. We get enough of that for free

Grimreaper666

johnos1984 wrote: »

Wash it when its raining. We get enough of that for free

.......well so far we do, don't be giving the f**kers anymore ideas.

rebel.ranter

If they do bring in a water charge it will probabky be a flat rate fee for the first couplae of years until they get the metering sorted out. In the meantime you could investigate some sort of rain collection/filtration system for washing the car, flushing the toilets, etc.

VinnyTGM

Will it be a fixed charge for everyone or will they be fitting meters :rolleyes:,
they would be better off spending the money on fixing the current pipe infrastructure which is leaking 40% of the total amount of water iirc.

johnos1984

Actually I have a few bottles of 'dry' car wash.

basically you apply the liquid to the paintwork as long as it isn't minging and then wipe off.

Then just buff it with a cleaner cloth.

I use it for classic car shows so that i can clean the car again after arriving.

Still you need to do a proper wash every couple of weeks.

MidlandsM

You could install a cople of water butts to your house downpipes and you'll have free water to do an ECO wash on yer car.

homer simpson

Its simples drill a well, we have one on our house anyways so we can just stick to middle fingers up at any water tax

challengemaster

johnos1984 wrote: »

Actually I have a few bottles of 'dry' car wash.

basically you apply the liquid to the paintwork as long as it isn't minging and then wipe off.

Then just buff it with a cleaner cloth.

I use it for classic car shows so that i can clean the car again after arriving.

Still you need to do a proper wash every couple of weeks.

Awesome - Where'd you get that stuff?

johnos1984

challengemaster wrote: »

Awesome - Where'd you get that stuff?

I bought it from a guy who washes cars in the underground carpark in the Citywest shopping center. I paid way too much but I was on the way to a wedding so it was great for cleaning the car before hand. the bottle is rubbish (it kept blocking) so I threw it away so unfortunately I can't tell you the brand name.

However it is easy to buy online

VinnyTGM

challengemaster wrote: »

Awesome - Where'd you get that stuff?

The best is 'Optimum no rinse' or ONR as it's known.

As above, 'twill be a flat rate, metreing every reisdence in the country would be a twat of a project, even the numpty f***tards in the Dail would realise that I expect.

Owen

I have no faith in waterless car wash sprays. None.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do being in water charges. After all, it's the last step before taxing the air we breathe. The only thing to do in that instance is setup a water barrel to catch rain water.

Atlantic Dawn

I'd imagine if charges were brought in the charge to use 50 litres would be something tiny like 10 cent given that the average house uses a good 500 litres a day and charges are unlikely to be over €1 a day.

dumbyearbook

homer_simpson wrote: »

Its simples drill a well, we have one on our house anyways so we can just stick to middle fingers up at any water tax

If your connected to the mains at all you'll still have to pay anyway.

homer simpson

dumbyearbook wrote: »

If your connected to the mains at all you'll still have to pay anyway.

Im not its all though a well, for the price of getting the council ect to connect it there was a well dug, never even been close to being dry yet either, only prob we had was when the place froze up last winter.....

maidhc

homer_simpson wrote: »

Its simples drill a well, we have one on our house anyways so we can just stick to middle fingers up at any water tax

Until the pump breaks and you need a new one for €2,000! :rolleyes:

Commercial car washes are all on meters already anyway, and they need to pay labour, rent, and overheads as well.

aujopimur

Private well owners will have to pay water charges also, the Gormley Greens say it's everybodys water.

homer simpson

aujopimur wrote: »

Private well owners will have to pay water charges also, the Gormley Greens say it's everybodys water.

lol, yeah sure..... watch me pay it!

Matt Simis

maidhc wrote: »

Until the pump breaks and you need a new one for €2,000! :rolleyes:

Commercial car washes are all on meters already anyway, and they need to pay labour, rent, and overheads as well.

EUR2k? Ill do it for half that!

All our water is from a well, I fitted two pumps myself and removed the old one. A shallow well jet pump plus 50l pressure tank is under 500, a pump alone around 300. I run mine at 40psi to the house.
I also installed my own oversized water softener and will likely get a household sized infrared bacteria killer (not that I know the water is dirty, but a precaution).

Wells are not expensive to run if you arent a tool that has to "call a man out"! Proper softened water (mains water is not usually softened) is very good for washing anything (clothes, hair, car). No white streaks as it dries.

I assume they wouldnt have the nerve to ask me for a water rate, considering I get no council support for my water at all.

aujopimur wrote: »

Private well owners will have to pay water charges also, the Gormley Greens say it's everybodys water.

Until the government are out boring new wells, cleaning water, unfreezing pipes and installing pumps there isnt a hope Id be paying that. What the hell can they do to make me? City Dwellers get a water service that can be taxed, we dont.

mickdw

What about households on group schemes. Will they have to pay this charge even though already paying about €200 per year for water.

corktina

washing the car in the rain is a good idea. It rinses much better and doesnt leave lime streaks....ive often done it....

snaps

corktina wrote: »

washing the car in the rain is a good idea. It rinses much better and doesnt leave lime streaks....ive often done it....

I always wash the car in the rain, my neighbours thinking im nuts! 1/2 the job is done then by nature!

Matt Simis

Matt Simis wrote: »

I also installed my own oversized water softener and will likely get a household sized infrared bacteria killer (not that I know the water is dirty, but a precaution).

Why did you install an oversized one out of interest ? I always reckoned they should be sized using their minimum capacity rather than their max capacity to be salt efficient but oversizing is not ideal either.

Bodhan

I use rain water from a water butt, I put them in ages ago. But the water tax will be blanket as there's currently no way of metering houses, so wash away you'll be paying for it anyway.

dumbyearbook

homer_simpson wrote: »

Im not its all though a well, for the price of getting the council ect to connect it there was a well dug, never even been close to being dry yet either, only prob we had was when the place froze up last winter.....

Ah right you should be ok then so, just have to wait and see suppose.

Tora Bora

maidhc wrote: »

Until the pump breaks and you need a new one for €2,000! :rolleyes:

Commercial car washes are all on meters already anyway, and they need to pay labour, rent, and overheads as well.

Brother has a well. Supplies ALL water for two houses, milking parlour for 60 cows. That's a lot of water. Pump was installed 18 years ago. Never failed once:)
Now is the time to drill on your property if you can. Once the water charges come in, demand for well drilling will go up exponentially. Well drillers, will react to market forces and increase their charges accordingly

Matt Simis

RoverJames wrote: »

Why did you install an oversized one out of interest ? I always reckoned they should be sized using their minimum capacity rather than their max capacity to be salt efficient but oversizing is not ideal either.

I'd love to give you a smart, educated answer, real reason in my case is I ordered the wrong Part Number! Its only oversized in that its too tall for my well house (had to enlarge it), its not some mental Hot Cylinder sized thing.

Works perfectly though, you set the operation interval to the occupants in the house, which would imply its storage and brine capacity isnt a hard minimum.

Matt Simis

Matt Simis wrote: »

I'd love to give you a smart, educated answer, real reason in my case is I ordered the wrong Part Number! Its only oversized in that its too tall for my well house (had to enlarge it), its not some mental Hot Cylinder sized thing.

Works perfectly though, you set the operation interval to the occupants in the house, which would imply its storage and brine capacity isnt a hard minimum.

Cool, was only wondering, I used to work in water treatment years ago, mainly boiler water treatment and cooling towers though.

thenashlegend

Well our water has been metered for over a year now and its by no means too expensive to wash a car!:)
When you consider...

A barrel is around forty gallons and a cubic metre of water is 264 gallons....
Thats just over 6 barrels to a cubic metre! To the best of my knowledge we pay around 2euro a cubic metre for water!:D

So unless your washing a bus I dont think there's any need to worry!;)

Maybe water prices vary in different area's but thats what we're charged here in Mayo!

Johnny Utah

Just heard on the radio that water meters are to be installed in every home! :mad:

What a joke! :mad:

Johnny Utah

thenashlegend wrote: »

Well our water has been metered for over a year now and its by no means too expensive to wash a car!:)
When you consider...

A barrel is around forty gallons and a cubic metre of water is 264 gallons....
Thats just over 6 barrels to a cubic metre! To the best of my knowledge we pay around 2euro a cubic metre for water!

So unless your washing a bus I dont think there's any need to worry!;)

Maybe water prices vary in different area's but thats what we're charged here in Mayo!

Yeah all well and good when they introduce these charges, but soon €2 will become €20. Just look at the bin tax. :mad:

Mc Love

It's not coming into force until 2014 i thought

Del2005

Mc Love wrote: »

It's not coming into force until 2014 i thought

And by then we won't be able to afford cars so washing them will be academic:D

vetstu

Well, a lot of parts of the country are metered already and people pay for their water so why shouldn't everyone.

alibabba

Start drilling if you can. Before the drillers inflate their prices

mondeo

alibabba wrote: »

Start drilling if you can. Before the drillers inflate their prices

I'd love to be able to give the water tax the "V" sign...I might walk around the garden later with one of these and see if I have some hidden diamond in the rock of a well going on somewhere, then I'll get my pick axe out the shed and start digging until kingdom come:D

x in the city

johnos1984 wrote: »

Wash it when its raining. We get enough of that for free

they will bring in rain tax in the next budget so dont count your horses...

Seperate

You'd only use about 10-15 ish litres (if even) when washing a car, so it's not going to be any kind of astronomical cost.

corktina

They re-did our pavements last year and installed meter boxes whilst they were at it.....I.m sorry to say that they couldnt find my connection so just stuck in a box anywhere for the look of it....I doubt I shall get a bill....

(I think the water charge will be just so much per house wont it?)