CIA coup in Ecuador

Brown Bomber

Ecuador is a member of OPEC.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/country/country_energy_data.cfm?fips=EC

Ecuador is a close ally of Chavez's Venuezela and both are members of The Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Alliance_for_the_Americas

Ecuador last year signed a major oil deal with China.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE56N04820090724

September 30th: members of the police force revolted in the capital Quito and took control of a number of facilities through force. President Correa went to meet and talk with the riotous police who attacked him with tear gas and other objects. Correa was injured and was taken to a hospital where he was held against his will and stopped from leaving. Meanwhile the people demanded his release, and soliders loyal to him rescued him from the hospital.

In 2008 Correa had to act because of CIA infiltration.

QUITO, Apr 10 , 2008 (IPS) - President Rafael Correa’s allegations that intelligence services in Ecuador had been infiltrated by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) have led to a shake-up in the armed forces of unforeseeable consequences.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=41945

According to Zimbabwean source Zim Daily Mugabe was warned away from Ecuador at this time by the CIA because of impending civil unrest.
http://www.zimdaily.com/beta/news277671.html

This was an attack on democracy by the right wing CIA

Lab_Mouse

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Will get back to you on it BB must read more into it.

At first I thought chavez was good venezuela but have started to wonder if he is swinging more towards dictatorship what with his crack down on the media.

Yet again I think south america is going to become a battkleground by proxy for the states and china/communist.Not nessarily mititary but defo economic.And yes I would say the cia and other secret outfits are gonna be busy

gizmo

I fail to see any proof in either your post (bar the reference to Zim Daily, a publication which has often been accused of reporting stories with no factual basis and being pro-Zimbabwean government i.e. Mugabe) or Correa's interview though, outside of him using it as an excuse to seemingly replace key military personnel with people who are loyal to him.

I was watching this happening live on bbc news the other night, and said to myself, this is surely the CIA..

Jeboa Safari

Whats your opinion on the Bolivarian Alliance, good or bad for both the countries and the region in general?

pablo_escobar

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Whats your opinion on the Bolivarian Alliance, good or bad for both the countries and the region in general?

obviously ALBA will be excellent for the region and terrible for the US.

The US kleptocrats have dominated latin america politically, economically and militarily for decades.

Manuel Zelaya, democratically elected president of Honduras, joined ALBA in 2008 and was removed by coup in June last year..11 months later.

You can't compare Correa with Chavez.

For 1 thing, Correa is a highly educated man of business and economics.
Correa understands how the US kleptocrats seek to exploit the region and i'ts people.

All you have to do is look at Ecuador's currency..the US dollar, under control of Federal Reserve!!!

uprising2

Ecuador Coup Attempt Engineered by the CIA


http://www.hamsayeh.net/hamsayehnet_iran-international news1739.htm

The subversive activity targeting president Correa is coordinated by Heather Hodges who was appointed as the US ambassador to Ecuador in August, 2008.
She did a job in Guatemala during the reign of its bloody dictator Rios Montt and served as deputy director of the US State Department's Cuban division which is known to be tightly interwoven with the CIA.
Mrs. Hodges also worked with USAID in several countries and served as the US ambassador to Moldova where her mission was to alienate the country's leadership from Russia and to organize a color revolution with the help of pro-western NGOs and the energetic youths from the US Peace Corps. At the moment her trainees are employed by the CIA stations in Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador.

EDIT:
Maybe they'll have to try a colour revolution now, it's the way to go.
http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enIE381IE381&q=colour+revolutions+and+the+cia

Brown Bomber

gizmo wrote: »

I fail to see any proof in either your post (bar... or ...

btw your discrediting Zim Daily without thinking about what you are saying. Do you honestly believe it would be part of the Mugabe propoganda machine to portray himself as a tool of the CIA?

As for proof. At this stage you'd have to be wilfully ignorant to suspect anything other than a CIA backed coup based on the skeptics favourite Occam's razor.

In 2009 Correa sent the US military packing from their military base in Ecuador and even had the constitution changed preventing a foriegn military from EVER having an Ecuadorian military base.

Coupled with, from the US State Dept:http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/rls/othr/ics/2009/117668.htm

2009 Investment Climate Statement - Ecuador



2009 Investment Climate Statement

Bureau of Economic, Energy and Business Affairs

February 2009

Openness to Foreign Investment Ecuador can be a difficult place in which to do business, although it is relatively open to foreign investment. There are restrictions or limitations on private investment in many sectors that apply equally to domestic and foreign investors. As a member of the Andean Pact, Andean Decisions 291 and 292 of 1991 nominally govern Ecuador's foreign investment policy. Implementing regulations issued in January 1993 and a 1997 law to promote foreign investment sought to liberalize the investment regime. Additional legislation to facilitate private sector investment in the telecommunications and mining sectors was passed in 2000 and has led to increased foreign investment in the former, though foreign companies have been frustrated by commercial disputes. A 2006 hydrocarbons law imposed new conditions in the petroleum sector that have been problematic for many companies, complicated by a 2007 decree that imposed additional restrictions. A 2008 mining mandate stalled mining activity, and a new Mining Law is expected in early 2009. Negotiations for a free trade agreement between the United State and Ecuador, which would have included investment provisions, stopped in April 2006. The current Government of Ecuador has not expressed interest in restarting negotiations.

Is a virtual guarantee of eventual coup attempts by the CIA representing Wall Street

This is how it works:

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaust."

(replace Cold War with War on Terror)

Source: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html

There you'll also find a list of CIA atrocities up to the early 90's. It's exactly the same story repeated today as in the very recent cases of Ecuador, Honduras, Venezuela and Haiti. Obama lived during a CIA backed murderous regime in Indonesia. Ann Dunham, his mother married an officer in Suharto's army while she herself was there working for Rockefeller's Standard Oil as an intermediary between Standard and mass-murderer Suharto (resposible for deaths in the millions!). Suharto was facilitated by the recently honoured war criminal Kissinger, evidently nothing has changed. So it is fair to assume that Obamanation JR's family had ties to the spooks and he certainly prospered from the deaths and oppression of the natives.

The US has zero interest in democracy, freedom and justice; they are the world's greatest threats to these principles and anyone who thinks they go to war for democracy is an idiot.

Brown Bomber

Deleted User wrote: »

I was watching this happening live on bbc news the other night, and said to myself, this is surely the CIA..

1st sign of madness.

Brown Bomber

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

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Will get back to you on it BB must read more into it.

At first I thought chavez was good venezuela but have started to wonder if he is swinging more towards dictatorship what with his crack down on the media.

Yet again I think south america is going to become a battkleground by proxy for the states and china/communist.Not nessarily mititary but defo economic.And yes I would say the cia and other secret outfits are gonna be busy

I think you've summed it up quite well. China is the US's only legitimate enemy for want of a better world and all the other bull****, war on terror/drugs/poverty etc is just a smokescreen to enable global domination.

As for Chavez, I find it hard to make a reasoned judgement on him tbh. Any information coming from the mainstream on an enemy of the US is guaranteed bull**** and anything from the other side tends to be unashamedly partisan.

It's good enough for me if he is elected in fair and open elections.

gizmo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

btw your discrediting Zim Daily without thinking about what you are saying. Do you honestly believe it would be part of the Mugabe propoganda machine to portray himself as a tool of the CIA?

As for proof. At this stage you'd have to be wilfully ignorant to suspect anything other than a CIA backed coup based on the skeptics favourite Occam's razor.

In 2009 Correa sent the US military packing from their military base in Ecuador and even had the constitution changed preventing a foriegn military from EVER having an Ecuadorian military base.

Coupled with, from the US State Dept:http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/rls/othr/ics/2009/117668.htm

Oh I don't doubt for a second the CIA could be behind it, I'd just like to see some actual proof.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

The US has zero interest in democracy, freedom and justice; they are the world's greatest threats to these principles and anyone who thinks they go to war for democracy is an idiot.

I certainly disagree here. If they were against these principles to such an extent then they wouldn't enforce them in their own country. Hell, the mere existence of the ACLU shows they are not against it.

Brown Bomber

gizmo wrote: »

Oh I don't doubt for a second the CIA could be behind it, I'd just like to see some actual proof.

That's fair enough but it is a covert operation there will be restraints on any available evidence. In situations like these common sense should be enough to bridge the gap to establish a high level of suspicion.

gizmo wrote: »

I certainly disagree here. If they were against these principles to such an extent then they wouldn't enforce them in their own country. Hell, the mere existence of the ACLU shows they are not against it.

Imperialism is and always has been a double-edged sword. Good for the privelidged few disastrous for the majority. I certainly applaud the freedoms US citizens have but their excess is paid for through rape and pillaging other lands. Which states have they conquered overtly or covertly where they have actually installed full American freedoms?

Ashamedly I'm no different a lot of my money, well almost all tbh is earned off the sweat and hard labour of Chinese workers who could never afford to buy a single item that they produce.

gizmo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

That's fair enough but it is a covert operation there will be restraints on any available evidence. In situations like these common sense should be enough to bridge the gap to establish a high level of suspicion.

Quite true of course. I'm not looking for actual concrete proof, that is what would be unavailable under the given circumstances but so far all we have to go on are the words of a President who is currently reshuffling the higher echelons of his military concentrating on those who support him and a number of events which are somewhat related to foreign interests occurring in the last number of years. All that being said, it's certainly something worth keeping an eye on in the near future. If something is going to happen then it'll certainly be during Correa's tenure.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Imperialism is and always has been a double-edged sword. Good for the privelidged few disastrous for the majority. I certainly applaud the freedoms US citizens have but their excess is paid for through rape and pillaging other lands. Which states have they conquered overtly or covertly where they have actually installed full American freedoms?

South Korea for one. Not only do they have many of the freedoms the US have but they have managed to integrate them in such a way that the country still retains it's unique identity.

As for the Middle Eastern countries, it will unfortunately be a long time until they see that level of prosperity. That being said, under democratic rule I can see that happening a lot faster than under some of the tyrannical reigns of their previous leaders.

Mahatma coat

Gizmo, Americans (and we who are 'Westerners') care about themselves First and Foremost, tis the nature of a Consumerist society, and it is also the nature of that society to turn a blind eye to the howto of Production, it IS a double edged sword, and ........Ya know thatsong 'Common People' Its like that, Your born on the privelidged Side or yer not, Chances are most of the people readin this have had 'Experiences' or heard stories, but we dont see the Coalface in these kinds of situations,...... We get to stand aloof and atempt interpretation, we might be in the Vicinity, but we're not There.

This might be a CT with legs, Tho like YEKAHS I'm still curious about the last big CT

Mahatma coat

How does this Coup tie in with the Escalation of Tensions betwen Columbia and Venuzala?? any ideas, if we presume CIA involvement in them then surely it must be part of an over arching plan.

What about tha Clown in Brazil that got elected with 1.3 Million votes, they want to ban him from congress because he's suspected of illiteracy, which would bar him from public ofice, does that rule apply in Ireland??????

Brown Bomber

Former (and possibly future) Argentine PM Killed?

During his presidency (2003-2007) Nestor Kirchner defied Washington, the Global Corporate Empire and its International Monetary Fund (IMF) to bring Argentina out of it's historic 2000-2001 economic collapse. He stood up against powerful members of the Argentine military and judiciary overturning amnesty laws that protected from prosecution the state criminals responsible for horrific human rights violations during previous dictatorships.

He aligned himself with Hugo Chávez, President of Venezuela and other leaders of the new Left in Latin America. In May of this year, Unasur, a new union of 12 South American nations, chose Mr. Kirchner to serve as its first secretary-general. He rejected the Free Trade Area of the Americas, helping to disentangle South America from Washington, building Mercosur, Common Market of the South, into a more powerful trading bloc.

He was a likely candidate for re-election in Argentina's presidential elections again when Cristina, his wife's term ends next year. His presence and international leadership will be sorely missed in South America and among revolutionaries everywhere.

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_61507.shtml

Kirchner speaking about Bush with Oliver Stone:

And the CIA Heart attack weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVzJjchwPY

meglome

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Former (and possibly future) Argentine PM Killed?

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_61507.shtml

Well he might have been. Though he had two operations for cardiovascular problems so he had a well known heart condition. Also since he got rid of some of the top brass in the Argentinian armed forces and removed legal protection from former ones wouldn't it be more likely they killed him?

Brown Bomber

meglome wrote: »

Well he might have been. Though he had two operations for cardiovascular problems so he had a well known heart condition.

First I've heard of it. Don't doubt it. Have you got a link for this?

meglome wrote: »

Also since he got rid of some of the top brass in the Argentinian armed forces and removed legal protection from former ones wouldn't it be more likely they killed him?

Well no. The Dirty War was US/CIA sponsored state-terrorism. Those generals and the CIA are one and the same.

gizmo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

First I've heard of it. Don't doubt it. Have you got a link for this?

Here we go. Looks like it was just his heart that finally gave out, not really surprising given the stress he would have been under, especially at that age.