Graduation Gowns?

donegalgirl28 · 05-10-2010 6:07pm #1

Right, so where do I get them and do people wear them for diploma graduation?

Also there is a dress code of dark colours right?

snappieT · 05-10-2010 7:52pm

Part of the form for graduation includes "Hire of Acadedmicals". Diploma students do wear one afaik.

donegalgirl28 · 05-10-2010 9:24pm

So when do I get that form? I passed last June and have not gotten anything?

El Siglo · 05-10-2010 9:38pm

You should have gotten an email with a pdf of; "Notice of Candidature for Higher Degrees 2010_11".

snappieT · 05-10-2010 10:45pm

Here's the form

Podge_irl · 05-10-2010 10:46pm

Whoever hires out the gowns makes an absurd amount on them. I bought (an admittedly used) gown for 50 pounds whereas they're renting them out for 20/30 euro a pop.

El Siglo · 05-10-2010 10:53pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Whoever hires out the gowns makes an absurd amount on them. I bought (an admittedly used) gown for 50 pounds whereas they're renting them out for 20/30 euro a pop.

In fairness though, it is only for one day. Unless it's a gown for a PhD, in which case it is probably worth buying.

I do agree, absolute scam for the price of everything. I'm ticked off about paying this €114 malark, it's not as if I haven't other crap like rent etc... to pay for.

snappieT · 05-10-2010 11:01pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

Whoever hires out the gowns makes an absurd amount on them. I bought (an admittedly used) gown for 50 pounds whereas they're renting them out for 20/30 euro a pop.

To be fair, they're renting both the gown and the course/level-specific hood. It's not as if they're making this money 365 days a year either, there are only so many graduations.

Hornd · 06-10-2010 9:27am

Do you have to wear them or whats the official ruling on it? No gown = no degree?

El Siglo · 06-10-2010 2:04pm

Hornd wrote: »

Do you have to wear them or whats the official ruling on it? No gown = no degree?

No gown = no admission to ceremony. They're very strict and it states what is meant to be worn in the pdf that snappieT posted.

donegalgirl28 · 06-10-2010 5:24pm

I've seen that PDF already, but it's only applicable for degrees, I'm graduating with a 2 year diploma.

donegalgirl28 · 06-10-2010 5:33pm

Apparently it's only €20 for a gown for the diplomas and certs.

http://www.tcd.ie/vpcao/administration/records-awards/faqs-diplomas-certificates.php

Emailed my course and they said I should get a letter soon. Bit late TBH, a month to go and heard SFA from them.

Podge_irl · 06-10-2010 7:34pm

El Siglo wrote: »

In fairness though, it is only for one day. Unless it's a gown for a PhD, in which case it is probably worth buying.

I do agree, absolute scam for the price of everything. I'm ticked off about paying this €114 malark, it's not as if I haven't other crap like rent etc... to pay for.

Yeah, they're not really worth buying (well they are...cause they look cool) but considering they rent out the same gown at least twice in a day they make a nice bit of moolah out of it, even if it is something of a seasonal market.

cbreeze · 09-10-2010 3:32pm

donegalgirl28 wrote: »

I've seen that PDF already, but it's only applicable for degrees, I'm graduating with a 2 year diploma.

gowns are optional for diploma holders

jennedy · 09-10-2010 8:41pm

Its 220 quid to buy a gown - defo not worth buying!

El Siglo · 10-10-2010 12:12am

jennedy wrote: »

Its 220 quid to buy a gown - defo not worth buying!

I know a chap that kept his undergrad gown and hood from NUIM, but that was with Phelan's don't know what this crowd are like.:pac:

Kwekubo · 10-10-2010 2:32pm

jennedy wrote: »

Its 220 quid to buy a gown - defo not worth buying!

For the undergraduate/diploma gown? Bonkers. Walters & Co in Oxford sell the Trinity undergraduate gown (which is used for diploma holders too) for less than 100 euros.

JonJoeDali · 13-10-2010 1:07am

El Siglo wrote: »

I know a chap that kept his undergrad gown and hood from NUIM, but that was with Phelan's don't know what this crowd are like.:pac:

Why would you take a degree from the University of Dublin in academic dress from another institution?

That would be like sporting a French Foreign Legion uniform at a Sandhurst passing out parade.

The ignorance of some people on this thread is astounding.

If you don't want to wear the correct academic dress, you shouldn't have bothered applying to the oldest university in Ireland built on the Oxbridge model.

JonJoeDali · 13-10-2010 1:11am

cbreeze wrote: »

gowns are optional for diploma holders

Rubbish. Just because an incorrect precedent has been set does not make it correct.

The Proctor has never decided this. And before you go off on a "the Proctor never specified x" rant, bear in mind that nobody 100 years ago could have foreseen what currently goes on in this College.

I took my MA last summer and was given a Queens University Belfast bachelors gown!!! I get the impression that the university outfitters (exclusive contract) couldn't be bothered getting correct gowns made because most people wouldn't know the difference if it hit them in the face.

JonJoeDali · 13-10-2010 1:13am

Ryder and Amies, Cambridge do proper Dublin gowns - slightly more expensive than the regular gowns they churn out. Excellent service. If you're on a budget, you can get a second-hand tab gown in your size for £30 + P&P. Very similar to the Dublin one - the difference is very subtle and they're excellent quality. I have one.

El Siglo · 13-10-2010 8:59am

JonJoeDali wrote: »

Why would you take a degree from the University of Dublin in academic dress from another institution?

That would be like sporting a French Foreign Legion uniform at a Sandhurst passing out parade.

The ignorance of some people on this thread is astounding.

If you don't want to wear the correct academic dress, you shouldn't have bothered applying to the oldest university in Ireland built on the Oxbridge model.

Cantab is that you?
I didn't say that, I said the chap kept his gown with which I should have added (because pedanticism seems to be rampant) for the craic/memory of graduation/posterity, not for graduating from Trinity or any other institution. I would love to be able to put that much thought into academic gowns, but I'm doing a PhD and don't really give a fuck apart from the fact that it's costing me time and money, both of which are in short supply.

Kwekubo · 13-10-2010 9:45pm

JonJoeDali wrote: »

Ryder and Amies, Cambridge do proper Dublin gowns - slightly more expensive than the regular gowns they churn out. Excellent service. If you're on a budget, you can get a second-hand tab gown in your size for £30 + P&P. Very similar to the Dublin one - the difference is very subtle and they're excellent quality. I have one.

So you're OK with people wearing academic dress from the wrong university, so long as it's Cambridge and not "some Fenian polytechnic"?

JonJoeDali · 13-10-2010 11:47pm

Kwekubo wrote: »

So you're OK with people wearing academic dress from the wrong university, so long as it's Cambridge and not "some Fenian polytechnic"?

It doesn't matter to me.

Podge_irl · 13-10-2010 11:58pm

Kwekubo wrote: »

So you're OK with people wearing academic dress from the wrong university, so long as it's Cambridge and not "some Fenian polytechnic"?

The Cambridge, Oxford and TCD BA gowns are all very, very similar.

JonJoeDali · 14-10-2010 12:29am

Podge_irl wrote: »

The Cambridge, Oxford and TCD BA gowns are all very, very similar.

What's a "TCD BA gown"? I presume you mean a Dublin BA gown?

El Siglo · 14-10-2010 8:29am

JonJoeDali wrote: »

What's a "TCD BA gown"? I presume you mean a Dublin BA gown?

Oh for fuck sake.

I think you mean; Chancellor, Doctors and Masters of the University of Dublin gown...:rolleyes:

ISAW · 18-10-2010 3:21am

JonJoeDali wrote: »

Rubbish. Just because an incorrect precedent has been set does not make it correct.

The Proctor has never decided this. And before you go off on a "the Proctor never specified x" rant, bear in mind that nobody 100 years ago could have foreseen what currently goes on in this College.

How does that fit with

the oldest university in Ireland built on the Oxbridge model.

By the way it isnt the oldest. It is the oldest still in operation.
http://two.archiseek.com/2010/1191-st-patricks-cathedral-patrick-street-dublin/
In 1320 a University was founded at St Patrick’s with the approval of Pope Clement V and it continued until the end of the 15th century when lack of funds caused its closure. In 1547 Archbishop Browne tried to revive it. In 1584 Queen Elizabeth I issued an edict ‘to consider how a college might be erected’ – St Patrick’s was considered unsuitable and All Hallow’s priory was chosen for the site of Trinity College.

I took my MA last summer and was given a Queens University Belfast bachelors gown!!! I get the impression that the university outfitters (exclusive contract) couldn't be bothered getting correct gowns made because most people wouldn't know the difference if it hit them in the face.

Indeed. I sympathise with you here.

ISAW · 18-10-2010 3:24am

El Siglo wrote: »

Oh for fuck sake.

I think you mean; Chancellor, Doctors and Masters of the University of Dublin gown...:rolleyes:

Nope i think he is referring correctly to the distinction between the University ( of Dublin) which awards the degrees and the separate entity of the Trinity College

ISAW · 18-10-2010 3:32am

http://www.tcd.ie/calendar/assets/pdf/tcd-calendar-e-degrees-diplomas.pdf

gowns/hoods page E11 and quotes 116 Euros for a certificate.

El Siglo · 18-10-2010 9:47pm

ISAW wrote: »

Nope i think he is referring correctly to the distinction between the University ( of Dublin) which awards the degrees and the separate entity of the Trinity College

Cool story bro!

JonJoeDali · 19-10-2010 11:15am

ISAW wrote: »

By the way it isnt the oldest. It is the oldest still in operation.
http://two.archiseek.com/2010/1191-st-patricks-cathedral-patrick-street-dublin/
In 1320 a University was founded at St Patrick’s with the approval of Pope Clement V and it continued until the end of the 15th century when lack of funds caused its closure. In 1547 Archbishop Browne tried to revive it. In 1584 Queen Elizabeth I issued an edict ‘to consider how a college might be erected’ – St Patrick’s was considered unsuitable and All Hallow’s priory was chosen for the site of Trinity College.

Mmm. Sounds like something you'd hear from one of the dainty young chaps doing the Trinity tour.

Pet · 20-10-2010 1:58am

Dainty - HA! That's a great way to describe them.

Bloody West-Brit twinks, every time I pass them I wish I could ball-gag them and lock them in the cellars (and not in a sex way).

JonJoeDali · 22-10-2010 2:49pm

Pet wrote: »

Dainty - HA! That's a great way to describe them.

Bloody West-Brit twinks, every time I pass them I wish I could ball-gag them and lock them in the cellars (and not in a sex way).

How dare you stereotype the College's tour guides in such a manner. (nice to know that in this advanced liberal society of ours, fitting in with certain stereotypes isn't a prerequisite for employment).

I do like their gowns though.

JuliusCaesar · 05-11-2010 1:58pm

Help! I need a gown in a hurry! The Masters is from a foreign university, black gown with red hood - Even just the black gown would do. I need it for next Weds - will buy secondhand or hire. Any idea where to get it from? Thanks all

goingnowhere · 07-11-2010 11:57am

But only gowns of this university may be worn at official events.

If you need one you will be offered an opportunity to get one

JonJoeDali · 07-11-2010 2:23pm

goingnowhere wrote: »

But only gowns of this university may be worn at official events.

You may wear academic dress from other universities at "official events". I've seen a few Ivy League gowns knocking around on Trinity Monday.

And besides, even at commencements, the gowns aren't proper University of Dublin gowns: usually Oxford Bachelors gowns. I've even seen Queens gowns being handed out by the university outfitters: obviously they don't have enough to go around.

Graduation Gowns?

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