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Rock super group
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05-10-2010 1:19pm#1
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Dude,i'm gonna say this firstly with respect...but... lead guitarist 'Jack White' ?????? Are you high? (if you are ok so ha ha) Never man. I don't think he could even be classed as a lead guitarist. Sure even Matt Bellamy is more of a lead guitarist and you got him done as rhythm?? Bass and Drums are definately worthyJust thought i'd throw this up and see what kind of response it gets, basically i was out with a few mates a while ago and we were talking about who each of us thought were the best guitarist, bassist, drummer etc. ever (well in our lifetime anyway) i'm just interested to see what people come up with, maybe this has been brought up before if so let me know.
Off the top of my head.
Lead guitar - Jack White (White Stripes, etc.)
Rhythm guitar – Matt Bellamy (Muse) not a rhythm guitarist but too good to leave out!!:D
Bass guitar - Flea (Red hot chilli peppers)
Drums – John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
Vocals - Thom Yorke (Radiohead)
but i have to again strongly disagree with 'vocals' not a chance in hell Tom Yorke is even in the running. More suitable candidates would be 'Chris Cornell, David Coverdale, Ronnie James Dio, Myles kennedy, Corey Taylor, Bon Scott, Brent (from Shinedown), Sully Erna(Godsmack), Maynard(Tool), Ozzy, Layne Staley, Steven Tyler, Paul Rogers and Freddy Mercury' to name a few. And guitarists- Eddie Van Halen, Dave Mustaine, Zakk Wylde, Slash, Dimebag Darrell, Angus Young, Rory Gallagher, Tom Morello, Marty Friedman, Nuno Bettencourt, Richie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix and Randy Rhoads. This is my take on it anyway. No offence meant man just my opinion 0 -
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Dude,i'm gonna say this firstly with respect...but... lead guitarist 'Jack White' ?????? Are you high? (if you are ok so ha ha) Never man. I don't think he could even be classed as a lead guitarist. Sure even Matt Bellamy is more of a lead guitarist and you got him done as rhythm?? Bass and Drums are definately worthy but i have to again strongly disagree with 'vocals' not a chance in hell Tom Yorke is even in the running. More suitable candidates would be 'Chris Cornell, David Coverdale, Ronnie James Dio, Myles kennedy, Corey Taylor, Bon Scott, Brent (from Shinedown), Sully Erna(Godsmack), Maynard(Tool), Ozzy, Layne Staley, Steven Tyler, Paul Rogers and Freddy Mercury' to name a few. And guitarists- Eddie Van Halen, Dave Mustaine, Zakk Wylde, Slash, Dimebag Darrell, Angus Young, Rory Gallagher, Tom Morello, Marty Friedman, Nuno Bettencourt, Richie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix and Randy Rhoads. This is my take on it anyway. No offence meant man just my opinion
No offence taken at all mate, thats what music is all about at the end of the day isnt it "difference of opinion".
But just to take you up on a few of your points you made.
I didnt really mean to state lead and rhythm guitars for White and Bellamy because there both really lead guitarists in there repective bands, firstly i'd advise you to go to youtube and type in "Under Blackpool lights" the White Stripes live DVD, Jack is unbeliveable he gives the performance of his career just his general stage presence and what he can do with a guitar will make him a legend.
And just in relation to vocals i would have put in Bellamy but i wanted a bit of variety so Thom Yorke is next in line as his voice is second to none, I agree with most of the candidates you stated yourself as they are all fantastic artists especially Bon Scott (ACDC) as i was a hugh fan of him myself, but one i am puzzled about is Corey Taylor??? Slipknot?? maybe its just be because i'm not into Heavy Metal music but if i wanted someone in there that screemed, shouted and roared through near enough every song!! i'd defo go for Corey!:D again maybe its just me but in my view hes not what you would call an ideal vocalist.0 -
i shall definately check out that on youtube man-always into checkin out something new(even if it is only new to me ha ha) and Corey Taylor? Well he happens to be one of the best vocalists/frontmen and songwriters around. Truly. Most know of his work with Slipknot and if you are not a fan i could see why you would be surprised to see him on the list but check out anything and everything he has done with Stone Sour especially 'Zzyzx Rd' of the last album 'Come Whatever May' and his version of Chris Issacs 'The Wicked' which he performs solo and acoustic from time to time and so much awesome stuff off the new Stone Sour' album 'Audio Secrecy' i think you will be pleasently surprised the guy is amazing 0
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ok,i am after watching some of the 'under blackpool lights' and .......eh- don't get it personally. Not my thing at all. And Kurt Cobain???? Must be the most over rated musician ever- its amazing what dying can do for a career(and i don't say that flippently- i just think that he was never as popular when he was alive-so no need to take it out of context as i was only applying it to him) all the others are quality no doubt but i must admit i am not as knowledgable on Corgan. i get it really hard to compare guitarists like Jack White to the likes of Slash, Eddie Van Halen,Tony Iommi(theres another ha ha) and Dimebag Darrell etc cos i honestly don't think he is anywhere near their league. This whole minimalistic thing is way over rated. Ok,it might be good here and there when the song needs it etc but not all the time. I just can't help but think these guys are just not that good. I need to see them let rip every now and then-show some technique etc-i need to be impressed-and 2 people(a guitarist and a below average drummer) does not do it for me. You guys need to check out some 'Dream Theater' now thats where its at. Those guys can really play and write a mean riff tooInteresting... But as i said i've never really been into Metal so i probably wont see him in the same light you do.
If your talking about a great guitarist/song writer is has to be the likes of Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Kurt Cobain, Sting, Hendrix and Billy Corgan there what i'd personally put up there if we were goin in that direction, actually i'd put James Hetfield in there aswell because he's been very consist over the years. 0 -
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Personally speaking it could change day to day- but for now i'm gonna go with: Vocals- Robert Plant, Guitar 1- Slash, Guitar 2- Zakk Wylde, Bass- Geezar Butler and Drums-Mike Portnoy. Would be interesting to see what would happen stylistically etc would be one hell of a jam i would think 0
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Nirvana did not save rock or anything even close to it. There were other bands around who were better and are still rockin out to this day ie- Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. Cobain had the controversity but way over rated imo. As a singer he wouldn't even stand beside Chris Cornell or Eddie Vader and his guitar playing?? There are far too many names to mention. And the bands that Nirvana were meant to take over from ie 'Bon Jovi, Van Halen and Def Leppard' etc ......still rockin it out todayLoving the debate.
In regards to Kurt Cobain, I'm literally stunned anyone could question his contribution to rock. I would go so far as to say Nirvana saved rock. As a boy I used to love Iron Maiden, Metallica and Guns n Roses. Basically it was stale, big hair band stuff. That's where rock was at the time. Van Halen and co. had their time but at the time I just loved it.
But oh my god I remember the first time I saw Smells Like Teen Spirit on MTV. It literally changed everything.
I look at it like this, if you look back you can see music evolving. Like every ten years or so there is a jump forward. Elvis, The Beatles, Punk, Hair Band Rock. Then in the early 90's it was Nirvana and alternative rock. But since nirvana, what's changed?? I actually think the Foo Fighters are a better band than Nirvana-and once David Growl picked up the pieces etc the world got to see and hear what he really can do (behind the skins and on guitar) Nirvana limited him but definately gave him the platform to do what he is doing now- playing stadiums and the like 0 -
Nirvana did not save rock or anything even close to it. There were other bands around who were better and are still rockin out to this day ie- Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. Cobain had the controversity but way over rated imo. As a singer he wouldn't even stand beside Chris Cornell or Eddie Vader and his guitar playing?? There are far too many names to mention. And the bands that Nirvana were meant to take over from ie 'Bon Jovi, Van Halen and Def Leppard' etc ......still rockin it out today I actually think the Foo Fighters are a better band than Nirvana-and once David Growl picked up the pieces etc the world got to see and hear what he really can do (behind the skins and on guitar) Nirvana limited him but definately gave him the platform to do what he is doing now- playing stadiums and the like
None of the seattle bands would have gotten the early recognition without Nirvana, in fact Pearl Jam's first major support was on a double headliner with RHCP and Nirvana. Soundgarden really didnt break mainstream until superunknown in 1994, despite being a signed touring band for six years before that.
They may not be a technically better band, or the first to play Grunge, but Nevermind took grunge out of seattle and brought it to the world. It was the first album to kill off Hair Metal.0 -
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Which is why it sucked lolNone of the seattle bands would have gotten the early recognition without Nirvana, in fact Pearl Jam's first major support was on a double headliner with RHCP and Nirvana. Soundgarden really didnt break mainstream until superunknown in 1994, despite being a signed touring band for six years before that.
They may not be a technically better band, or the first to play Grunge, but Nevermind took grunge out of seattle and brought it to the world. It was the first album to kill off Hair Metal.
Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jnr and The Pixies were all around before Nirvana and set the template for that genre. Soundgarden were signed to a major label by the late 80's so they were obviously doing ok for themselves. Anywho,i am not a huge fan of grunge-its ok from time to time but Soundgargden and Pearl Jam i do like and 'Temple Of The Dog' oh yeah 0 -
Which is why it sucked lol Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jnr and The Pixies were all around before Nirvana and set the template for that genre. Soundgarden were signed to a major label by the late 80's so they were obviously doing ok for themselves. Anywho,i am not a huge fan of grunge-its ok from time to time but Soundgargden and Pearl Jam i do like and 'Temple Of The Dog' oh yeah
All of the above were doing well as I said, but Nirvana breaking with Nevermind is what brought these bands serious worldwide success, you cannot deny that..0 -
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Drums - Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins)
Bass - Chris Wolstenholme (Muse)
Guitar - Jimmy Page (Led Zep)
Guitar - Edge (U2)
Vox - Freddie Mercury (Queen)
Without choosing 2 from the same band as a i dont think that would be right for a super group.
I know Edge will seem like an odd choice but absolutely love his sound. Always big and always in your face so while there are better players out there, chose him for that reason.
Chamberlain is imo one of the best drummers of all time. Dave Grohl would be a very close second but with Jimmy, you get more variety and more technical ability i think.
Chris on bass is a no brainer for me altho Flea would be next on my list. Chris is the type of bassplayer which i think is irreplacable in Muse. Massive ability and writes basslines that are the hooks of songs alot more than any bassist i can think of.
Page i dont think i have to explain why. Amazing player who writes amazing and inventive guitar lines.
Freddie is quite possibly the best rock singer of all time. Huge voice, amazing stage presence and can play some piano for an extra instrument in the band
So thats my picks. The Edge if i thought about it more im sure i would think of a more suitable person to fit in but i cant help it, love his sound hehe.0 -
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Is this Dead and Alive musicians, or is it only musicians who are alive today
If Dead and Alive allowed
Vocals: Bruce Dickinson(Iron Maiden)
Lead Guitar: Slash(Velvet Revolver, Slash's Snakepit)
Bass Guitar: Cliff Burton(Metallica)
Rhythm Guitar and Back Up Vocals James Hetfield(Metallica)
Drums: Keith Moon(The Who)
If only Alive are allowed
Vocals: Bruce Dickinson(Iron Maiden)
Lead Guitar: Slash(Velvet Revolver etc)
Bass Guitar: Nikki Sixx(Motley Crue)
Rhythm Guitar and back up vocals: James Hetfield(Metallica)
Drums: Dave Grohl(Foo Fighters, QOTSA)
One more supergroup cause I like these
Vocals: Axl Rose(Guns 'n' Roses)
Guitar 1: Mick Mars(Motley Crue)
Guitar 2: DJ Ashba(GnR, Sixx AM)
Bass Guitar: Flea(Red Hot Chilli Peppers)
Drums:Tommy Lee(Motley Crue)0
– Carcass
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