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RIP Moss Keane

  • 05-10-2010 9:54am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭


    Moss Keane dead at 62

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2010/1005/keanem.html

    A true legend and if you really want to know more about the man and Irish rugby in the 70ies\80ies

    I suggest you read Moss Keanes book "Rucks, Mauls and Gaelic Football"
    a fantastic autobiography and a great read.

    RIP Moss "keep your head in the fridge and your heart in the fire" Keane


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Jasus, a blast form the past. One the names from my youth.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭john kinsella


    True Irish legend. RIP big fella


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    What a shock to read this.
    62 is too young, RIP Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    a sad loss

    one of my heroes as a lad

    RIP Big fella


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,741 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    R.I.P. Moss


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Just heard this on the radio. :(

    RIP Moss, one of the giants of the game (in every sense of the word).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    BBDBB wrote: »

    one of my heroes as a lad

    Same here.

    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Only 62. A dheis Dé go raibh a anam. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,007 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Funkstard


    Jaysus. Had the pleasure of being introduced to him at the Munster All Blacks match. Big shock. RIP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Sad news, RIP Mossie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 kautothestar


    RIP Mossie. A true legend. They don't make them like that anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    Legend is right. Very sorry to hear that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭the_one_&_only


    Top Gent.

    Legend is a word used too often these days but he definitely is a Legend of the highest order

    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,684 ✭✭✭eigrod


    RIP Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    I am really shocked to read that Mossy has died.

    He was a true gentleman both on and off the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Nice article here. RIP Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭peterako


    RIP Moss Keane.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    RIP and thanks for some great memories Legend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Now I'm sad.

    First of the Mighty Munster team that defeated the All Blacks to go to the Great Clubhouse in the Sky.

    Big Moss with the ball tucked under his arm charging at the opposition all knees and elbows is one of the lasting memories of my 70s youth.

    Ni bheith a leitheid etc etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭patmac


    A great character lost.
    Many a story about him, against New Zealand in that famous game he owned the lineout, when the call went out for a Munster throw (something like 2-12-15-7) he said 'ffs not me again'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Never had the pleasure of meeting him, read his book and found it a great read. He seemed a great guy and lived life to the full.

    My condolences to his family and friends.

    RIP Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    Great character and a true gentleman if ever there was on and off the pitch.
    R.I.P Sir


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭bridgetown1


    He will be missed by rugby fans all over the world. A total gent off the field and the most passionate of players on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    massive loss to rugby!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭interlocked


    A man whose character on and off the field will long be fondly recalled.

    Thanks for all the memories.

    May the sod lie easy upon you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Iron Hide


    A true legend of the game and a fine man to boot

    R.I.P. Moss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭backrow67n8


    R.I.P. Moss Keane

    Love reading the stories about him and watching old clips of him playing!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    RIP Moss Keane.
    An absolute gentleman so he was. It really was a shock to hear of his passing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭andrewdcs


    Very sad to hear this, he was a wonderful character and superb ambassador for the sport, too young a man. Thoughts with his family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    I feel this thread should be more active. Thoughts to his family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Teferi wrote: »
    I feel this thread should be more active. Thoughts to his family.

    RIP Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Very occassional poster round here.
    I felt very sad hearing the news yesterday of one of the first guys I remember watching playing rugby.

    As someone with Kerry roots I was always reminded how they not alone produced fine footballers, but the odd fine rugby player as well.
    I managed to find a signed copy of his autobiography in a bookshop only to find out when I presented it to my father they had switched it for an unsigned copy.
    That signature would have meant a lot to another Kerryman.
    Nevertheless after that initial disappointment it was a damm fine read.

    Sport and indeed life needs people like Moss.

    My condolences to his family and friends.

    RIP Moss Fenton.
    RIP Moss Keane.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    I was lucky enough to have known Moss through his work for the department of agriculture. He was an absolute legend, his booming laugh, massive personality and mischievous smile will be sadly missed by all....

    He was a true Munster great and his likes will never be seen again in the professional era.

    Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭garbanzo


    Sad to hear and RIP Moss.

    A nice memory I have is that Moss used to live near-ish to me in Dublin when I was growing up. You'd see big Moss on his big black "cow chaser" bike in his green suit cycling down Butterfield Avenue probably to/from work.

    "Howya Moss" we'd roar. " Howya ledz" he'd say.

    As someone poignantly wrote... "a man with no airs yet full of graces."

    Legend and taken too young.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Profiler


    A fantastic player on the field and a gentleman off.

    The thing that struck me the most was the dignity and privacy with which he bore his illness. In a time where there appears to be no boundaries non negotiable to "celebrities" in the name of fame, Moss kept it all out of the news.

    Rest In Peace Moss. You'll not be forgotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭antogz1979


    R.I.P. great man and a great rugby player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Part of RTE's HEC highlights on Saturday will include a tribune to Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭Quandary


    RIP

    Anyone know what number jersey he wore for Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    RIP Moss.

    An absolute gent. Himself and my uncle would have been good friends for years and I met him a few times and went to the odd international in his company when I was younger. The man could give lessons on humility and humour alike. He left a big impression on me and the patience of the man as all and sundry came up to him on the street and in pubs was striking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭phog


    If any of you haven't yet read his book then I can recommend it, good read for anyone with an interest in rugby.

    I read it when it came out first but last night I dusted it down and intend to read it again in memory of a great man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Nice well respected minute's silence for him at rds today, i think i would have preferred a minute's applause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Nice well respected minute's silence for him at rds today, i think i would have preferred a minute's applause.

    I disagree about the applause. I think silence shows more reverence than noise but others may disagree. There should have been a tribute at the Ulster game but sadly this wasn't the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I disagree about the applause. I think silence shows more reverence than noise but others may disagree. There should have been a tribute at the Ulster game but sadly this wasn't the case.

    I'm surprised at that.

    I don't like applauses, a moments silence is far more appropriate IMO.

    I loved how he told Franno what he thought of him here. :D
    'Frunsus yowere the laziest f**ker that ever set foot on a rugby pitch'
    Neil Francis on a hilarious weekend with the late Moss Keane in Paris as they spent a long night driving around in circles looking for their chateau

    AND Frano, Moss is coming as well... The closing words from a telephone call from Nick Farr-Jones who had been working in Paris for a few years at that stage. The first part was sweet music to the ears. A long weekend in Paris in June. One match, all expenses paid, bring your girlfriend, stay in a chateau, du vin, haute cuisine, la belle vie, l'amour and Le Moss. The whole perspective on the long weekend changed once Moss was going to be there.


    Ollie Campbell was coming too, but he was going to the World Spoofing Championships. There is a game of spoof and the World Championships were being held in Paris that weekend – seriously. Moss wasn't keen on the silly blazers and strawboat hats which were part of the paraphernalia for this event and we ended up reasonably early back in our hotel, the Hotel California (you can check out but you can never leave).


    The next day we were driven to the outskirts of Paris, not sure whether it was north, south, east or west. We went directly to the ground and here it was, a significant and seminal moment, and it came at a jolly in Paris, the only time I ever packed down with Moss Keane. He was nearly 50, he was still a huge man, and he put himself about a bit, mainly because some of his contemporaries Jean Luc Joinel and Jean Francois Imbernon were playing.


    I felt like Marty McFly from Back to the Future. I was a child when these guys were slugging it out, it was like a time warp. It was 30 degrees that day and two things could be observed from space that afternoon – the Great Wall of China and Moss's red face. He scored a try that afternoon which added to the colourimetry.


    I took time out on the pitch to watch this marvellous man indulge his passion in the game. When the final whistle blew I shook his hand and told him what a privilege it was to play with him.


    "Frunsus yowere the laziest f**ker that ever set foot on a rugby pitch." He then spent an hour dissecting my game, his range and knowledge were astonishing. Nobody else had explained me to me before with such insight and depth. He laughed that big diesel-train engine laugh of his, apologised for anything that was close to the bone and led me to the bar. My only avenue of reproach was why hadn't he told me these things 15 years earlier. Another first, who can say that they were ever psycho-analysed by Moss Keane?


    At the dinner Moss called over the fromageuse and asked her to bring out every cheese she had in the larder. His thirst for knowledge was unquenchable. Because of his work in the Department of Agriculture he knew more about every local cheese delicacy than she did.


    I'd say I tasted about 25 different cheeses. I don't think Moss liked cheese that much, it was just knowledge that he hungered for. I was his guinea pig to tell him what it tasted like. Late on into the night in the big hall quite a few of the international contingent had got up to sing a song from their own country, "Frunsus, it's a bad night if the Irish don't get up on stage and sing."


    "I didn't think you wanted to sing," I said.


    "We have to" he said.


    Moss signalled that we were getting up to sing and we climbed the stairs to the stage on the right-hand side. We walked to the centre of the stage and he handed me the mike. It took 10 seconds for the introductions and the song we were going to sing. I was just clearing my throat when I looked down at the bar – a giant figure with a pint in each hand. The shoulders bouncing as the laughter came in waves. The fecker had just walked through the stage and had continued down the left-hand flight of stairs leaving me like a plonker on my Sweeney. The song and I died, mainly because I couldn't stop laughing at him laughing at me.


    The night ended about 3am. Myself, the missus and Moss were literally the last people to leave the premises. Somebody had been procured to take us to our chateau.


    We got our gear and hopped into a car with Jacques and we were driving for about 15 minutes when we came to the conclusion that nobody knew where we were going. Jacques had come in to collect us and drop us off but had no idea where.


    Moss came to the rescue, our host had scribbled down the name of the chateau, the address and the phone number on a piece of paper and had given it to Moss at the bar. Moss, who was sitting in the front seat of this tiny car, struggled and rummaged and finally produced the hand-written directions on a chit. The light was broken in the front and he passed the paper to me and said "Read that out to him, Frunsus".


    "Six Kronenberg, three Pastis and a Tuttifruitti."


    I realised that we were goosed and this was going to descend into farce. It had at that stage begun to cascade out of the heavens in an electrical storm that was more malevolent and powerful than anything I had ever experienced. The engine cut out and we all looked at each other in an unblinking way.


    Communication – it was patently evident – was going to be a major issue. Myself and the missus had English and a small bit of French. Jacques had French, but no English. Moss appeared to have neither English nor French.


    The Kerryman would be navigating us around the twisty, windy, unlit French, bocage country roads for the next three hours. Seconds later a terrifying bolt of lightning struck metres from the car. Panicked by the proximity of the hit Moss had literally jumped into the driver's seat, cracked his head and broken the sunroof into the bargain. It was about to get an awful lot wetter. The next two hours, well, the only people missing were Buttons and the two Ugly Sisters.


    Moss got really annoyed as we went round and around in circles "Frunsus, tell Jacques we are all going to stay in his house if he doesn't get us to this f**king chateau in the next 10 minutes." Jacques immediately redoubled his efforts, the thoughts of bringing us lot back home to his poor wife would have been too much to bear.


    There was something Shakespearean about our plight. The thunderstorm got worse. I fully expected to see Lear out on the heath. What did become very apparent amid the extraordinary power of the lightning and its intermittent illumination was the vast swathes of crosses meandering through the bocage.


    "Where the hell is this place?" I enquired to Vasco da Gama in the front seat. For once the Kerryman was stumped. The vast reservoir of encyclopaedic knowledge could not respond. The font of deductive reasoning was devoid of an answer.


    He could usually trot off a five-minute explanation of his circumstances at will. It really irked him. He was quiet for about 15 minutes in which time Jacques had followed a van from the local boulangerie which was delivering pastry to our chateau for breakfast. We got out, bid adieu to Jacques and went to bed.


    It was sometime in the afternoon before I blinked daylight.


    The phone went.


    There was a little boy downstairs who had things to tell me. He had specifically got up early, and persuaded the concierge, who had just got off duty, to tell him about the graveyards. The guy knew who Moss was and took him in his car and gave him a special tour.


    Giddy with excitement he expounded his freshly garnered knowledge: this was the SOMME. He had visited the Allied cemeteries at Prozier, Albert and Mametz. Fricourt was where the Germans had buried theirs. The Red Barron, Manfred Von Richthofen, had been buried there but was subsequently moved. All the way over lunch he had remembered about a dozen Irish names in Albert and where they were from. His enthusiasm was infectious, what a voracious appetite for knowledge and a unique way of conveying it to his audience. The low Kerry tones speaking with reverence and respect for those young men who had died in the trenches.


    After nearly strangling Jacques he rang him that day, thanked him profusely for his help in getting us home and sent him a jersey. He met up with him in Dublin when he and his mates came over for one of the French games.


    A special weekend for me in the life of this truly remarkable man. Genial and gentle, his character befitted his stature. A privilege to spend time in his company and glean value and fulfilment from his humour and unique enlightened perspective.

    That said, heaven just hasn't a clue what's coming its way.


    moss_keane042714_display.jpg
    "Straight talk: Moss spent an hour dissecting my game. Nobody had explained me to me with such insight before"

    http://www.tribune.ie/sport/rugby/article/2010/oct/10/frunsus-yowere-the-laziest-fker-that-ever-set-foot/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,741 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Teferi wrote: »
    I feel this thread should be more active. Thoughts to his family.

    just a little short memory - the first training session i took part Mosie was there, the senior team looked liked giants, to a newcomer like me, but mossie was just a giant , and yet made me feal so welcome even though he was an experiened international and Lion - as has been said before, no airs and graces - just a decent man - his ghost will remain at lansdowne


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