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how come there have never been huge bombs that wipe out half of cities?

  • 05-10-2010 12:32am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭


    I read a post there about a supposed "848 pounds of ANFO in a ready made truck". He was only joking, but it would only take one lunatic to do it.

    One lunatic who knew how to put together a bomb and destruct a street or even more. I am not saying I wish this would happen, but how come not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    Sure half of Cork was wiped out years ago by the looks of it:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Attacks on Gas Power Plants are fairly common and they do a massive amount of damage when they explode.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    CorkMan wrote: »
    how come not?
    it's against the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭high heels


    pebbles21 wrote: »
    Sure half of Cork was wiped out years ago by the looks of it:D
    It was in the war of Independence it is called the burning of cork. You should look it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    The names Hiroshima or Nagasaki ring any bells?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    CorkMan wrote: »
    how come there have never been huge bombs that wipe out half of cities?

    I hope you're not being serious...

    Because.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭TerryTibbs!


    Corkman threads are the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    TheZohan wrote: »
    I hope you're not being serious...

    Because.....

    He's talking about using regular explosives.



    Tbh, I would imagine the danger of being discovered is a factor.

    That and keeping explosives around can be very dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Attacks on Gas Power Plants are fairly common and they do a massive amount of damage when they explode.

    how common? how many have there been this year for instance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭google faps


    If i had to live in Cork, i'd imagine the urge would be overwhelming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭Balfie


    omagh not ring any bells? Its in the news enough to remember the devastation that was caused,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Superman or Batman generally stop these type of things from happening...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo



    That and keeping explosives around can be very dangerous.

    Not to mention running with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭shinobi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Corkman threads are the best

    I read the thread title on the home page and knew it was him before I saw his name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Four Lions is a fantastic movie.

    I heard once that that the amount of explosives stored underneath the British Parliament as part of Guy Fawkes' plot would, if detonated, actually have destroyed not just the Parliament building but also everything within several streets of it.

    Not exactly what the OP was looking for but I thought it was interesting (if true).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Ya man Timothy McVeigh was a right lunatic wasn't he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭franklyshocked


    Hiroshima and Nagesaki would not agree with this thread.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    One lunatic who knew how to put together a bomb and destruct a street or even more.

    Not sure how young the OP is, but my immediate thought is Manchester 1996. That pretty much ruined the whole street.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I read a post there about a supposed "848 pounds of ANFO in a ready made truck". He was only joking, but it would only take one lunatic to do it.

    One lunatic who knew how to put together a bomb and destruct a street or even more. I am not saying I wish this would happen, but how come not?


    :confused:

    Wonder how long it is before intelligence agencies pick up on this thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I read a post there about a supposed "848 pounds of ANFO in a ready made truck". He was only joking, but it would only take one lunatic to do it.

    One lunatic who knew how to put together a bomb and destruct a street or even more. I am not saying I wish this would happen, but how come not?

    Cork would be first to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Samba wrote: »
    :confused:

    Wonder how long it is before intelligence agencies pick up on this thread.

    Probably after the bomb has gone off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭demakinz


    The docklands bombing in London was fairly big. £85 million worth of damage was done by the blast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭mikerowsopht


    aren't there a few nukes missing around the world

    wonder where they are

    I can tell you they aren't on Ebay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    how come there have never been huge bombs that wipe out half of cities?

    Just give it a little bit of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Many people have gone to the trouble of sourcing the materials for such a bomb, constructed the bomb and then activated the bomb only to realise they're standing beside a really, really big bomb which causes them to lose control of their bowels and run away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    Well most explosives aren't incredibly complicated. Anyone who really really wanted to do it..could. Buying enough material is a problem in a short period but if you've somewhere safe and dry and time on your hands..
    its basically not a phenomonal challenge from an engineering perspective..

    But why the hell would anyone WANT to destroy half a city? Its just silly.. While someone wanting to destroy a building or a symbol might be politically or religiously motivated, there ain't no benefit to mass destruction.

    --
    edit
    --
    also, making something like that is expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    If i had to live in Cork, i'd imagine the urge would be overwhelming.

    spoken like a person whos wishs he was from cork :pac:.. always hate what you cant have:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭mikerowsopht


    twinytwo wrote: »
    spoken like a person whos wishs he was from cork :pac:.. always hate what you cant have:D

    I think Cork should be taken off the map via nuke


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Ya man Timothy McVeigh was a right lunatic wasn't he?
    The bomb McVeigh used was 4,800 pounds of ANFO + nitromethane = about five times the 848 pounds mentioned by the OP, equivalent to about 2.4 kilotons of TNT. To put that in perspective: the 1917 Halifax arms ship explosion was about 3 kilotons, the Hiroshima nuclear blast was about 13 kilotons, and Nagasaki about 21 kilotons.

    So yeah, it has been done. When ANFO goes, it just goes. Unlike in the movies, you don't get to run away from an explosion.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    bnt wrote: »
    The bomb McVeigh used was 4,800 pounds of ANFO + nitromethane = about five times the 848 pounds mentioned by the OP, equivalent to about 2.4 kilotons of TNT. To put that in perspective: the 1917 Halifax arms ship explosion was about 3 kilotons, the Hiroshima nuclear blast was about 13 kilotons, and Nagasaki about 21 kilotons.
    .

    I would query the mathematics there. Even if ANFO/NiMeth is more powerful than TNT, I doubt it's a thousand times more powerful. Much of Halifax was flattened in the blast, OKC just lost a building or two.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭kielmanator


    pebbles21 wrote: »
    Sure half of Cork was wiped out years ago by the looks of it:D
    If i had to live in Cork, i'd imagine the urge would be overwhelming.


    It's not my fault, I was only pretending to shoot at the black and tans, they weren't supposed to use flamethrowers!:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    'Homemade' bombs are difficult to make and just as dangerous for the terrorist as the public. Make the bomb a hundred times bigger and you have a thousand times the problems.

    Ironic that someone from Cork would have this idea...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Lots of smaller bombs cause more panic & terror than one big bomb. And there's a greater chance of detonating at least one if you have many.

    What's interesting is that 'western' anti-Islamic terrorists haven't sprung up and started attacking Muslim holy sites etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 kilkenny_kid


    Not enough jizz in them imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    OKC just lost a building or two
    the Oklahoma City bomb damaged 300+ buildings and destroyed 80+ cars, which created secondary explosions. The bomb itself left a crater left a 30ft diameter, 8ft deep crater. The bomb was equivalent to 2,300kg of TNT. 160+ dead, many more injured. Most resulting from glass/window shrapnel.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Timothy_McVeigh%27s_movements_during_Oklahoma_City_bombing.svg/710px-Timothy_McVeigh%27s_movements_during_Oklahoma_City_bombing.svg.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Not sure how young the OP is, but my immediate thought is Manchester 1996. That pretty much ruined the whole street.

    NTM

    Same, fairly large explosion:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I read a post there about a supposed "848 pounds of ANFO in a ready made truck". He was only joking, but it would only take one lunatic to do it.

    One lunatic who knew how to put together a bomb and destruct a street or even more. I am not saying I wish this would happen, but how come not?

    Presuming you're a terrorist (not you, but the guy with the explosives). Many small bombs make a greater psychological impression than one very big bomb which would create such destruction as to a) wipe out your explosives stockpile, b) more likely to lose you support than gain any. Personally I believe the "campaign" is what attracts people, not just a once off "spectacular".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Corkman threads are the best bomb.
    You said it, Terry.


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