Trade now or not?

bazz26

Guys, fell foul to the dreaded diesel DPF failure today, my car needs a new DPF at a cost of just over €900. :eek: Thing is that I was planning on trading up in the next few months anyway but was waiting for the right replacement to become available.

This latest setback has thrown a spanner in the works and while I am currently looking at cheaper DPF replacement options I am also considering these options:

1. Trade the car without spending money on a new DPF (car drives ok but is down on power and emmissions light is on) and get a shafting on the cost to change price.

or

2. Bite the bullet and get a new DPF fitted and then trade the car over the next couple of months.

BTW the car is a 2006 Volvo S40 1.6d SE with 135k km on the clock with a main dealer service to date. Anyone got any advice?

Thanks,
Bazz.

mumof2

rotten timing - but surley if you traded it in the dealer can get this replaced for a lot less? With this in mind, they should still give you a reasonable amount for your volvo but thats only my opinion...........

Basil Fawlty

Fix it. The cheapest car you'll ever own is the one your driving. What if the new car breaks?

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

Guys, fell foul to the dreaded diesel DPF failure today, my car needs a new DPF at a cost of just over €900. :eek: Thing is that I was planning on trading up in the next few months anyway but was waiting for the right replacement to become available.

This latest setback has thrown a spanner in the works and while I am currently looking at cheaper DPF replacement options I am also considering these options:

1. Trade the car without spending money on a new DPF (car drives ok but is down on power and emmissions light is on) and get a shafting on the cost to change price.

or

2. Bite the bullet and get a new DPF fitted and then trade the car over the next couple of months.

BTW the car is a 2006 Volvo S40 1.6d SE with 135k km on the clock with a main dealer service to date. Anyone got any advice?

Thanks,
Bazz.

Id say No 1 is your worst option. 2 is slightly better but why not put it for sale private when fixed then hit the dealers with a ball of cash

bazz26

Thanks for all the replies.

To be honest the thought of walking into a garage trying to trade a car that needs an expensive bit of work done doesn't appeal to me at all. You are at a disadvantage in the negotiations straight away.

Selling privately is an option but could prove a difficult prospect as I live in the stix, work all sorts of hours and we are a one car family. It could prove difficult making the car and myself available to a prospective buyer. I do appreciate though it is probably the most cost effective option.

However I am looking to see if I can get the job done cheaper than the price I was quoted today. Is replacing a DPF a routine job for any mechanic?

Drummerboy08

Depending on who you trade it into, that car won't see the forecourt of that dealer (assuming it will be a main branded dealer). The mileage is too high for that kind of establishment.

What the dealer will do is price the car with the trade before he gives you a figure. I've found that the trade don't seem to be knocking the value of a car too much these days for things like clutches and even turbos so I can't see why a DPF would be any different.

What I would do is take a chance, and call into a few dealers. See what they offer you for the car now. Try and figure out what you'd be offered for the car without the problem. See what the difference is - it may not even be worth your while repairing the car.

Assuming the car is in good nick, there should be a good demand for it (high spec, small engine, diesel saloon). Someone in the trade will replace the DPF, give it a valet and a haircut and stick it up on Donedeal for a few quid profit.

Chance it and see. The worst they can do is confirm your fears.

mullingar

€900!!!!!

It can be sourced a lot cheaper than that.

There is a second option, remove the dpf system and install an ecu dpf fooler box (search on fleabay)

bazz26

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Depending on who you trade it into, that car won't see the forecourt of that dealer (assuming it will be a main branded dealer). The mileage is too high for that kind of establishment.

What the dealer will do is price the car with the trade before he gives you a figure. I've found that the trade don't seem to be knocking the value of a car too much these days for things like clutches and even turbos so I can't see why a DPF would be any different.

What I would do is take a chance, and call into a few dealers. See what they offer you for the car now. Try and figure out what you'd be offered for the car without the problem. See what the difference is - it may not even be worth your while repairing the car.

Assuming the car is in good nick, there should be a good demand for it (high spec, small engine, diesel saloon). Someone in the trade will replace the DPF, give it a valet and a haircut and stick it up on Donedeal for a few quid profit.

Chance it and see. The worst they can do is confirm your fears.

It's 135k kilometers or 84k miles, would think that was average enough for an almost 5 year old diesel car. Thanks for the tips though.

bazz26

mullingar wrote: »

€900!!!!!

It can be sourced a lot cheaper than that.

There is a second option, remove the dpf system and install an ecu dpf fooler box (search on fleabay)

I'm ringing around a few places tomorrow but do you have any links to where?

EPM

Isn't there a user here (Row I think) that's fairly knowledgeable on that engine? Might give you some advice on the most cost effective approach to repair it at least. Sh1tty timing to say the least...

Would a DPF delete cause havoc for the emissions test with the NCT?

Carstuck

Personally I wouldn't fix the car if you were going to trade it as it may not add much extra value in the trade in i.e. dealer probably won't give €900 extra if its fixed. If it was me I would trade as is or fix it and keep it longer to get your money worth.

mullingar

bazz26 wrote: »

I'm ringing around a few places tomorrow but do you have any links to where?

Apologies as I eat some humble pie.

Its an expensive bugger!!!

Cheapest in Ireland I found was from a fellow boardie:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055861589

BUT,

Why not remove it altogether?

There is a little black-box available that tricks your ECU into thinking its DPF is working perfectly. I have not seen this before.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/DPF-OFF-DISABLE-EMULATOR-VOLVO-1-6-D-2-0-D-/320569284032?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa36b15c0#ht_943wt_1137

Drummerboy08

bazz26 wrote: »

It's 135k kilometers or 84k miles, would think that was average enough for an almost 5 year old diesel car. Thanks for the tips though.

It may seem low to you, but remember that Joe Soap is afraid of any car with more than 5 digits on the clock. That and its 5 years old.