Sky+. Transfering programmes to PC?

rob555mark

Just wondering if it's possible to transfer recorded programmes from a Sky+ box to a pc?

Apogee

There is a step-by-step guide to transferring FTA programmes using Extract+ on the What Satellite website:
http://wotsat.techradar.com/techzone/projects
"Project: Set your Sky+ recordings free"

Encrypted programmes have also been transferred and decrypted on other forums, but that is a much more complicated process.

watty

And in Ireland potentially criminal (even to explain it) for Pay TV content.

It's fine to copy the Free To Air content, as long as it's only for personal use. (Uploading, burning copy for someone else etc isn't permitted).

rlogue

So whats the legality of devices like the Hauppauge HD PVR?

watty

Same as ANY recording device off TV.

You can use recordings personally only.

Not upload to Internet or Burn to Disc for World+dog.

The difference from VHS days in late 1970s to now is that in VHS days the quality was 1/6th to 1/3 of Live TV quality perception wise and copies slow to make and worse. Internet uploads Ha ha!

Now a recording is identical to live transmission. Running off identical quality DVDs is faster than real time.

Anything other than Personal use will lead to trouble. Technically the law is a bit different in UK and Ireland on personal recordings and AFAIK neither has been enforced. Back in the olden days in UK you where supposed to get an MCPS personal use licence. I never heard of anyone that did.


It's irrelevant to copyright and laws if you record via high quality Analogue to DVD, old VHS or direct Tansport stream conversion to MPEG on HDD / DVD.

It's not irrelevant if you circumvent pay TV encryption to make a recording or copy a recording (or even explain how) in Ireland. That's criminal law. See scary act http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0024/sec0009.html#zza24y1990s9



Some links
MCPS replaced by PRS. I don't think they are much concerned with Personal use anymore
http://www.prsformusic.com/Pages/Rights.aspx

MCPSI managed by IMRO http://www.imro.ie/mcps/about-mcpsi


Conclusion:
No-one is going to care what you do to make or copy a FTA transmission as long as for personal use.

Copying a PayTV transmission for personal use, if the broadcaster has not disabled that (macrovison on Sky Box Office) is OK.
Defeating PayTV encryption or explaining how to do it is against Irish law.

Apogee

I'd say the boys in Harcourt St and the Phoenix Park rarely worry about anything else other than those criminal masterminds who want to backup some piece of Hollywood trash they recorded from Sky Movies.

watty

It's when the DVDs are on ebay they get really interested.

Apogee

Have they not heard of bittorrent?