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Greatest President of Ireland (as per the constitution to save confusion)

  • 29-09-2010 11:25pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭


    Edit: edited thread title as I got nominations for every two bit organization in Ireland. Who would have thought greatest President of Ireland and a complete list would have been confusing :confused:

    Poll to follow in a minute

    So vote and explain if you wish.

    Listen, if you're going to jump in and say it's irrelevant or the President is a waste of money then hey, stroll over to Politics forum or even start your own thread :)

    Just vote, add your reason or ignore. All are fine.

    Ireland's greatest President 35 votes

    Douglas Hyde 1938-1945
    0% 0 votes
    Seán T O'Kelly 1945-1959
    5% 2 votes
    Éamonn De Valera 1959-1973
    5% 2 votes
    Erskine H. Childers 1973-1974
    11% 4 votes
    Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh 1974-1976
    2% 1 vote
    Patrick Hillary 1976-1990
    2% 1 vote
    Mary Robinson 1990-1997
    14% 5 votes
    Mary McAleese 1997- Present day
    57% 20 votes


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Irelands greatest President?

    Hang on - I haven't even got the job yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Biggins wrote: »
    Irelands greatest President?

    Hang on - I haven't even got the job yet!

    We can share it, i need the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    OP Where you around at the time of Patrick Hillary? You will have to make a better case then he did a lot of work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Ahern

    no one f*cked a nation like ahern in the history of democracy - he deserves some sort of award surely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I'll go Douglas Hide the first president


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    I've only been around long enough to know two of em...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    galwayrush wrote: »
    We can share it, i need the money.
    Indeed, according to your hole in the wall anyway! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    sligopark wrote: »
    Ahern

    no one f*cked a nation like ahern in the history of democracy - he deserves some sort of award surely

    When was he President?

    I must have missed that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    OP Where you around at the time of Patrick Hillary? You will have to make a better case then he did a lot of work

    A fair point.
    I shall add a better explanation on my choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    David Norris. What he did after the invasion was truly the mark of a great leader.





    Wait, what year is this?


    Damn! I've said too much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    How do you measure greatness in an Irish president? Their irrelevance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    bruton. where's bruton??

    john bruton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I'm running in the next election.
    Vote for me.
    I'm not joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    Terry already.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    You left out GAA president Christy Cooney.
    And the president of Anglo Irish Bank Sean Fitzpatrick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Terry wrote: »
    I'm running in the next election.
    Vote for me.
    I'm not joking.

    You've to be nominated by 4 local councils or 20 TD's though. Stupid requirement really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    When was he President?

    I must have missed that.

    LOL :D

    Thanks Starbelgrade :D


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    David Norris. What he did after the invasion was truly the mark of a great leader.

    anal invasion? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    sdonn wrote: »
    You've to be nominated by 4 local councils or 20 TD's though. Stupid requirement really.

    How did Dustin manage that when he ran?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    sdonn wrote: »
    You've to be nominated by 4 local councils or 20 TD's though. Stupid requirement really.

    Stupid indeed. Because what we really need is Dustin on the actual ballot.

    You need a system to keep the crazies out.Could you imgine the listof choices on the page if anyone could add their name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Ah I remember 2004 well, I was a bright eyed bushy tailed young lad relishing the chance that this was the year when I would first avail of my right to vote. Fresh to the world, I was also naive and believed that we lived in a democratic country where our head of state is elected by the people!

    A few months later my aspirations to vote and my confidence in the system collapsed. The damn bastards decided that we would have a non-contested presidential election and just kept Ol' Mary going in the office. I am still annoyed that this was allowed happen and even more annoyed that the media decided not to care either. Sure the position is nothing more than ceremonial but it is still a position that the people should have the right to vote on, not some back room dealing in the Dáil that decides it.
    Its quite embarrassing really, we rotate our Lord Mayors between parties (in Cork at least) and we have non-contested Presidential elections.

    P.S. Before someone says I should have ran, I would need to be 35 or over to be eligible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    knird evol wrote: »
    You left out GAA president Christy Cooney.
    And the president of Anglo Irish Bank Sean Fitzpatrick

    Thread is titled Irelands greatest President.
    Swop it around to greatest President of Ireland

    Start your own thread in Investments & Markets forum or GAA forum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    D-Generate wrote: »
    A few months later my aspirations to vote and my confidence in the system collapsed. The damn bastards decided that we would have a non-contested presidential election and just kept Ol' Mary going in the office. I am still annoyed that this was allowed happen and even more annoyed that the media decided not to care either.

    Dana failed to get nominated.
    The same Dana who decided at the last minute to run in an election for Galway West.
    Asked to name five estates in Knocknacarra, Galway, a massive area in west Galway city with thousands and thousands of residents.
    **** it, she could not even name five estates and she wants to represent these people?

    Lost all credibility, no wonder no council would nominate her in 2004 for President


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Dana failed to get nominated.
    The same Dana who decided at the last minute to run in an election for Galway West.
    Asked to name five estates in Knocknacarra, Galway, a massive area in west Galway city with thousands and thousands of residents.
    **** it, she could not even name five estates and she wants to represent these people?

    Lost all credibility, no wonder no council would nominate her in 2004 for President

    But Dana knows all kinds of everything.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Thread is titled Irelands greatest President.
    Swop it around to greatest President of Ireland

    Start your own thread in Investments & Markets forum or GAA forum


    Well you yourself are lacking in some of the key qualities required for a presidential aspirant. Flexibility, diplomacy, imagination and being a woman.
    So you hardly in a position to split hairs and criticise my selections


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I didn't like Hillary.
    Met the man in Dublin a few times. Never took to him.
    He always came across as cold, stiff and scary calculating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    here's to you mrs. Robinson, reciting the same rhetoric gurning like an idiot ur so fake :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    knird evol wrote: »
    criticise my selections

    Did your candidates run in 2004?

    I can't control who ran before, I have only one vote same as you.
    Thread is on Ireland's greatest President, I cannot do anything about candidates in 2011.

    Do you have a favourite President before 2011? Then pick a selection on the poll.
    Or.........start a thread on Ireland's next President :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    My old fella knew Hillery well and thought he was a bóllox.
    Case closed there, I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Biggins wrote: »
    I didn't like Hillary.
    Met the man in Dublin a few times. Never took to him.
    He always came across as cold, stiff and scary calculating.

    In fairness to him, Biggins, he was dead at the time.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Did your candidates run in 2004?

    I can't control who ran before, I have only one vote same as you.
    Thread is on Ireland's greatest President, I cannot do anything about candidates in 2011.

    Do you have a favourite President before 2011? Then pick a selection on the poll.
    Or.........start a thread on Ireland's next President :)

    You are deliberately adopting a narrow definition of 'president' to be obstructive, these are my favourite presidents


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    In fairness to him, Biggins, he was dead at the time.
    LOL
    He might as well have been. He spoke very little.
    Last time I saw him was in a Dublin Art Gallery at a launch of a painters collection going on display.
    He was very grand shall we say...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    knird evol wrote: »
    You are deliberately adopting a narrow definition of 'president' to be obstructive, these are my favourite presidents

    Christ knird evol do you even read the poll which was there for close to an hour before your last post?. If you're going to go that way then why not nominate the President of Ryanair or President of Apple Ireland.

    Ok, I'll adjust the OP for you.

    Thread is entitled Ireland's greatest President, start your own thread and watch the pedantic posts fly in


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    If you're going to go that way then why not nominate the President of Ryanair

    Ok, ill vote for Michael O'Leary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Hillary's name is actually spelled Hillery.
    Yours,
    P. Dant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Mary Robinson, no doubt about it. Campaigned for issues like birth control and homosexuality when nobody else would go near them. Appointed UN commissioner for Human Rights and improved relations with Britain when relations were deeply strained.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Mary Robinson, no doubt about it. Campaigned for issues like birth control and homosexuality when nobody else would go near them. Appointed UN commissioner for Human Rights and improved relations with Britain when relations were deeply strained.
    Loads of people campaigned for birth control and gay rights. Some of these people even created organisations. OMG.
    How did she improve relations with britain and why were these relations strained?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭heyjude


    sdonn wrote: »
    You've to be nominated by 4 local councils or 20 TD's though. Stupid requirement really.

    Seems like a stupid requirement, but actually its sneaky clever as it ensures that the politicos maintain control of who gains access to the presidency. It means that anyone that rocks the boat too much or thinks too independently can be kept out, without the public having any direct say,as it stops very small political parties from ever having a presidential candidate or an independent from ever standing as a presidential candidate unless he/she has the support of one of the bigger political parties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Where's the Atari Jaguar option? All the presidents of this country are/were non-executive, they don't matter a jot. Dev should've been assassinated though. What a motherf*cking c*nt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Confab wrote: »
    Where's the Atari Jaguar option?

    It's a thread on Presidents of Ireland, away with your nerdish tradition rules.

    Atari Jaguar was a computer games console and has no business on a poll on heads of state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Mary Robinson, no doubt about it. Campaigned for issues like birth control and homosexuality when nobody else would go near them. Appointed UN commissioner for Human Rights and improved relations with Britain when relations were deeply strained.

    I dont like commenting on these polls but I have to on this one. Mary Robinson did more for human rights in this country than anyone I've seen as President. An amazing person who brought the plight of "battered" women,(ya thats the expression that was used..is it still?)to the fore.Not too long ago in this country it was ok to kick the life out of a woman!! Now I believe its called assult. And as you say the issue of homosexuality and basic bloody human rights!
    I had the pleasure of meeting her once and it was the biggest turning point of my life.
    If she could be heard,well so could I.


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