Brundle wants Legard out?

losthorizon

A bit ruthless of him isn't it? I cant imagine him having that amount of power although they don't seem to get on

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/15092010/23/bbc-f1-ditch-legard-cox.html

lord lucan

Please let this happen!! I'd well believe that Brundle has that sort of influence there,he's an extremely important part of the BBC's coverage. Imho i think he's approaching Murray Walker status in terms of status and popularity. I've rarely heard F1 fans complain about him.

Legard is a tool imo,he ruins the BBC's commentary on the sport. Between sounding uneducated about the sport sometimes and cutting across Brundle with some inane observation he wrecks my head. I like Brundle,he's extremely knowledgeable about the sport,still close with many of the main players and not afraid to poke his nose in and ask the hard questions.

amacachi

What I love about Legard is how he can cut across Brundle to say something and before he even finishes the bull he interjected with he'll say something else.

EvilMonkey

Heard this a while ago, the BBC motogp guys aren't great either but miles better than Legard. I hope its true.

brownacid

I would suggest that they draft in the guy who does the R5 commentary on the red button (I think his name is David) but to do that would split up the wonderful team of anthony davidson and the other team. I think they work very well together and I much prefer to listen to them as I watch the race, they always seem to know what they are talking about and although davidson didn't last long in the sport I get the feeling he has a more in depth knowledge of the workings behind a f1 car than brundle. That and I dont really care for brundle and especially not that stupid necklace he always wears.

TheChrisD

I despite Legard with a passion. What was wrong with James Allen? I really liked him, he knew his stuff, and he didn't sound like a monotonous drone.

Jordan 199

brownacid wrote: »

I would suggest that they draft in the guy who does the R5 commentary on the red button (I think his name is David) but to

I'm sure it's David Croft.

And as for Legard, I hope he goes.

losthorizon

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I would rather be subjected to Chinese water torture than have to listen to James Allen again. I would prefer to watch Setanta`s coverage with those two idiots than watch BBC if Allen came back. James Allen was/is hated by the F1 community for a good reasons.

I agree, Jame Allen was dire. Eurosport when they had F1 had a very good commentator in Ben Edwards. Personally I think Will Buxton ( Setanta GP2) or Martin Havin (Motor racing, Eurosport) would also be good.

smooch71

TheChrisD wrote: »

What was wrong with James Allen? I really liked him, he knew his stuff, and he didn't sound like a monotonous drone.

You are joking right?

Right?

Please tell me you're joking

De Hipster

smooch71 wrote: »

You are joking right?

Right?

Please tell me you're joking

[case]the man named his son Enzo Allen [/case]

losthorizon

Eurosport also had a dutch guy in the late 80s/early 90s who was good. BBC might not like someone witha european accent though. John Watson used to be his co-commentator. Eurosport is excellent except for the damn breaks!!

kmick

Bring back Peter Collins*













*dead not alive

TheChrisD

@whoever quoted me and said stuff:

Well excuse me for not finding James Allen to be bad. I'd rather have him back than listen to Legard again...

smooch71

De Hipster wrote: »

[case]the man named his son Enzo Allen [/case]

I'm surprised he didn't call him Lewis Enzo Anthony Hamilton Allen

Jordan 199

losthorizon wrote: »

Eurosport also had a dutch guy in the late 80s/early 90s who was good. BBC might not like someone witha european accent though. John Watson used to be his co-commentator. Eurosport is excellent except for the damn breaks!!

Allard Kalif is his name

Jordan 199

kmick wrote: »

Bring back Peter Collins*













*dead not alive

Lol. He used to call Nick Heidfeld 'Nicky Heidfeld'

De Hipster

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Lol. He used to call Nick Heidfeld 'Nicky Heidfeld'

...the Moto mix-up!

De Hipster

smooch71 wrote: »

I'm surprised he didn't call him Lewis Enzo Anthony Hamilton Allen

you forgot Fangio, Jackie 'Sir' Stewart, Brabham, Hill, Fittipaldi, Walker, Hunt...

Slutmonkey57b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikasr6UkqY8

^
Legard vs. Crofty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9035968.stm
^
Compare Legard's inability to see what car has just crashed on screen in front of him to what Jake is capable of dealing with, live on air. (needs UK proxy)

thewheel2.0

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Legard vs. Crofty

Wow forgot how night and day it was! Haven't tuned in to Legard in a while.

rccaulfield

Great article- how many words from Brundle are quoted in it?

G-Money

Legard seems like a nice guy but his commentary annoyies me. He is forever cutting across Brundle and interrupting him. The best example was in one of the races this year where he asked Brundle a question and Brundle was trying to answer but Legard kept butting in and wouldn't let him speak.

I'm not sure who should replace him. I've only heard Crofty's commentary during the practice so I can't say what he's like during qualifying and the race.

There is one guy I heard commentating on an athletics event from a few years ago on Eurosport. His name was Tim something. He was great. Although perhaps he's not enough of a petrol head to get the F1 job.

Not mad on the MotoGP guys I have to admit.

Bring back Murray Walker, the ultimate F1 commentator.

losthorizon

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikasr6UkqY8

^
Legard vs. Crofty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9035968.stm
^
Compare Legard's inability to see what car has just crashed on screen in front of him to what Jake is capable of dealing with, live on air. (needs UK proxy)

Another of Crofts comments with added bonus of an audience

http://www.twitvid.com/5VF4N

Alun

One of the most annoying things Legard does is to append the words "of anyone" or, even worse, "of anyone so far" to the end of any mention of a fastest time or fastest lap, as in "Alonso has just done the fastest lap of anyone". It's completely superfluous and very, very irritating.

Get anyone from the current 5-Live crowd to replace him IMO, and if Karun Chandook doesn't get a drive next season he'd be a good choice too .. very nice guy, and is almost a walking F1 encyclopedia.

Cookie_Monster

can we change the title of this thread to "everyone wants Legard out"
:pac:

Ghost Train

I just think he's a bit too dull

you switch from an exciting race with 5 live to much slower Legard less interesting race

smooch71

Alun wrote: »

One of the most annoying things Legard does is QUOTE]

What I hate the most is

"Alonso from Hamilton from Vettel from Button"

or

Ferrari from McLaren from Red Bull from McLaren"

What the hell does that mean anyway?

Cookie_Monster

smooch71 wrote: »

What I hate the most is

"Alonso from Hamilton from Vettel from Button"

or

Ferrari from McLaren from Red Bull from McLaren"

What the hell does that mean anyway?

ah come on now thats a common one in all forms of racing.

smooch71

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

ah come on now thats a common one in all forms of racing.

Alright, I wasn't really looking for an explanation on what it means and of course I've heard it before.

I just find it very irritating when Legard says it.

Vinny-Chase

Ben Edwards FTW

smooch71

Vinny-Chase wrote: »

Ben Edwards FTW

Yep

Agree 100% with this

Darwin

Yep, Ben Edwards and strangely enough John Watson (ol' Wattie) were a great combo on Eurosport when they use to show the F1 races. I remember their commentary when watching Coulthard as race leader come into pit in Adelaide. He stuffed the car into the barriers at the pit entrance and the two boys nearly blew a gasket in the excitement. Very entertaining altogether!

afatbollix

losthorizon wrote: »

Eurosport also had a dutch guy in the late 80s/early 90s who was good. BBC might not like someone witha european accent though. John Watson used to be his co-commentator. Eurosport is excellent except for the damn breaks!!

Your joking right? they almost never take a break during a race allways warm up laps or warm down laps..

During the motorbikes they have 6 breaks for 7/8 hours of TV!!!! remember ITV taking a break once with 3 laps to go when there was a huge battle going on!!

your just spoiled with the BBC these days..

here.from.day.1

I really miss Murray Walker..

ando

Legard is a nice chap I'm sure but his commentary is just awful. He is the weakest link in the BBC F1 team for sure

Ben Edwards would be great but I can't see it happening

As for James Allen coming back, jesus christ no. I couldn't stand another one of those pathetic "GOOOOOOOO"'s at the start of a race, in an attempt to sound like Murry Walker. Anyway, he's just one of those people in life that you find annoying, but you don't quite know why

De Hipster

Legard is far from my favourite member of the BBC F1 crew but like with James Allen (who I could NOT listen to another word from) the whole commentary F1 coverage issue is becoming a bit of a crass witch hunt.

I really thought that Brundle might prove me wrong and display some loyalty, etiquette and team-like behaviour...not like he's ruthlessly ‘competing’ in-car anymore.

He should take lessons from the media savvy decorum of current driver teamings such as Button/Hamilton and Vettel/Webber.

lee_baby_simms

F1 and myself included have never fully recovered from the loss of this great man.

Slutmonkey57b

De Hipster wrote: »

Legard is far from my favourite member of the BBC F1 crew but like with James Allen (who I could NOT listen to another word from) the whole commentary F1 coverage issue is becoming a bit of a crass witch hunt.

I really thought that Brundle might prove me wrong and display some loyalty, etiquette and team-like behaviour...not like he's ruthlessly ‘competing’ in-car anymore.

He should take lessons from the media savvy decorum of current driver teamings such as Button/Hamilton and Vettel/Webber.

Errrr... Vettel and Webber? Media savvy? Ummm.

Brundle is quite professional on air, and in his dealings with the rest of the team. If there are rumblings he's not happy, I don't believe they're coming from him, or that he's teasing it out. You only have to listen to the commentary to hear that he's not happy with the situation. By times he gets a word in, but overall I think the first year he expected things to improve, and instead they're getting worse. As I posted elsewhere, his commentary during qualifying to Monza was telling:

On Massa's lap in Q3, every single sector:
Legard: "He's lost time there"
Brundle: "But it's a personal best"

Legard: "He's lost EVEN MORE time there"
Brundle: "Another personal best, though"

Legard: "He's lost time again the final sector, there. Every sector, losing time"
Brundle: "3 personal bests, there"

Conclusion: Legard is looking at the gap to pole, not comparing Massa's actual laps. What a muppet.

later on:
Legard: "Hulkenberg, setting a personal best there in the first sector!"
Brundle: "It will be, it's his first lap of the session"

Conclusion: JL is now making a point of looking for PB times on the screen, but still doesn't understand what he's looking at.

The pained exasperation in Martin's voice was almost heartbreaking to listen to. Here he is, stuck in a tiny box every weekend, trying to do a professional job while a witless, incompetent muppet talks over him every week, repeats the same thing over and over, and gets confused at the slightest incident, probably with arms flailing in the commentary booth.

Another telling moment was last year at monaco - Legard asked him "which car would you really like to drive around this circuit?" Martin paused and sounded pleased as he started the second word of his answer - only to have Legard jump in and talk over him with "the reason I ask is...." and droned on for 5 minutes. Utter utter stony silence from Martin's side of the commentary box for the next 25 minutes.

RayM

Murray Walker will be 87 on Sunday...

And I bet he'd still do a better job than Legard. As irritating as James Allen could be at times, at least he allowed Brundle to speak without pointlessly and monotonously interjecting every five seconds.

Ben Edwards seems to be the ideal replacement - and probably the only one with a reputation big enough to eradicate the endless Murray Walker comparisons. Although, if the BBC insist on giving the gig to a staff member, then David Croft would be more than tolerable.

GTE

I cant wait for them to ditch Legard. He is hopelessly incompetent at is job.

The Eurosport commentators that would do Le Mans are generally great. I dont actually know of the names being mentioned here and I cant remember what James Allen was like, though I do remember being utterly disappointed at his first race behind the mic.

EDIT:

I didnt know the BBC 5 Live guy was Croft. He is quite good.