School Traffic Problem - Solution?

godtabh

Was talking to my Dutch cousin.

He was telling me that the school terms are phased so that each region starts and finishes its school terms at different times.

If the schools were all to start at the same time the whole country would shut down.

so what do you think? Would phasing school start times work with fixing the poxy traffic these days?

flyingsnail

You would still have overlapping times when they would all be at school, It could also create childminding headaches for parents. What we need to do is stop all the parents who drop off little Johnny who only live 5 mins walk down the road.

There is a house just up the road from me which is rented by three 3rd level students all doing the same course in the same college. Each of them drives their own car in each day, no such thing as car pooling. What worse is they probably spend about 20 minutes in traffic getting someplace they could walk to in under 10. rant over

Carawaystick

flyingsnail wrote: »

There is a house just up the road from me which is rented by three 3rd level students all doing the same course in the same college. Each of them drives their own car in each day, no such thing as car pooling. What worse is they probably spend about 20 minutes in traffic getting someplace they could walk to in under 10. rant over

What time do they leave college at?

foggy_lad

one easy solution is to completly ban on street parking stopping or waiting within half a mile of all schools and have a few guards there every so often taking down registration numbers for the fines, which would also make crossing the road outside schoolsa lot safer for children.

amacachi

Give an extra 5% in each subject to kids who walk, cycle or get the bus to school, wouldn't take too long before Sorcha and Lorcan's mammy would stop dropping them off every day.

L1011

Make the little brats walk, cycle or get a bus; and refuse to provide school-based education to the kids of parents who selfishly decide to build a once-off mansion in the arse of nowhere with no access to services and causing a burden in infrastructure provision. If they want to isolate themselves that much they can home school.

flyingsnail

Carawaystick wrote: »

What time do they leave college at?

about 8:30

Cookie_Monster

I remember getting a lift to school maybe 3-4 times a year, only during the worst weather.

There is little reason for anybody to be driven to school IMO, especially in Dublin where there are ample bus services.

Jumpy

MYOB wrote: »

Make the little brats walk, cycle or get a bus; and refuse to provide school-based education to the kids of parents who selfishly decide to build a once-off mansion in the arse of nowhere with no access to services and causing a burden in infrastructure provision. If they want to isolate themselves that much they can home school.

You mean like a farm?

gurramok

Move the schools from the centre of towns/villages to housing estates?

Seaswimmer

MYOB wrote: »

Make the little brats walk, cycle or get a bus

Are the vast majority of adults sitting alone in their cars driving into work every morning not in a better position to "walk, cycle or get a bus". After all, they are bigger, more street wise, know the rules of the road and should be more responsible. Most parents (I speak from experience) dread letting their kids out to walk, cycle or get the bus. Stand at any pedestrian junction in Dublin any school morning and watch the traffic as the "green man" for pedestrians comes on.

L1011

Jumpy wrote: »

You mean like a farm?

Let them in if their parents CAP/REPS payments can be verified. A farm isn't a once-off McMansion.

Seaswimmer wrote: »

Most parents (I speak from experience) dread letting their kids out to walk, cycle or get the bus. Stand at any pedestrian junction in Dublin any school morning and watch the traffic as the "green man" for pedestrians comes on.

Most parents mollycoddle their kids too much these days; and as goes city centre schools - most kids there DO take public transport anyway.

Carawaystick

flyingsnail wrote: »

about 8:30

pm? All of them? I'd imagine traffic'd be fairly light at that time so them driving wouldn't matter so much.



MYOB& foggy_lad, what would you suggest pupils with broken limbs do in yere totalitarian cases?

Making a child hop >800m on crutches to allow able bodied workers get to their jobs which probably don't depend on on all the staff starting at the same time anyway seems a fine proposal.

foggy_lad

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I remember getting a lift to school maybe 3-4 times a year, only during the worst weather.

There is little reason for anybody to be driven to school IMO, especially in Dublin where there are ample bus services.

i remember cycling or walking just over a mile to and from school for years both primary and post primary. we only got a lift also in the worst weather if our father was not in work. there was a little less traffic back then as people did not drive their kids to/from school but the traffic was faster than it is today!

none of us got run over or kidnapped by strangers etc we were probably a lot healthier for it and slept better at night with lungs full of fresh cold air.

edit: we were driven to school and back the odd time in the fmily car a normal 4door saloon car not the usual chelsea tractors being used today by uncaring unthinking parents whose only concern is getting johnny or jane to the gates and getting on the motorway too work before the rushhour begins, maybe if all these parents were in minis and small cars there would be less chaos at school times and also less traffic(physically) on the roads?

foggy_lad

Carawaystick wrote: »

pm? All of them? I'd imagine traffic'd be fairly light at that time so them driving wouldn't matter so much.



MYOB& foggy_lad, what would you suggest pupils with broken limbs do in yere totalitarian cases?

Making a child hop >800m on crutches to allow able bodied workers get to their jobs which probably don't depend on on all the staff starting at the same time anyway seems a fine proposal.

let them hop the short distance to the school it is good exercise and ask any doctor and they will agree, too much a^$e wiping is done with todays children and teens, so much so that they are growing up unable to fend for themselves or make their own decisions

Propellerhead

This September has been noticeably worse in Celbridge for schools traffic. The schools do start at staggered times but this has only marginally helped this year. Hazelhatch Station is now a twenty five minute journey from where I live compared to a seven minute one outside of term.

Carawaystick

foggy_lad wrote: »

let them hop the short distance to the school it is good exercise and ask any doctor and they will agree, too much a^$e wiping is done with todays children and teens, so much so that they are growing up unable to fend for themselves or make their own decisions

So you stand over making children who can't walk, hop on crutches for more'n 800m to school and back every day it takes til their disability is fixed(if it is non-permenent)?

What's the furthest distance you travelled on crutches with a leg in a cast?
How long have you spent on crutches in your entire life?
What's the longest you spent on crutches as a result of a single incident?

BostonB

Traffic is only a problem is you are in a car.

foggy_lad

OH don't be so melodramatic i think allowances could be made by special arrangement and a doctors note to allow parents of students with broken legs drive them into the school grounds for the time their leg is in cast.

Apart from that I could see no good reason except maybe laziness for parents to want to drive children up to the school gate.

Carawaystick wrote: »

So you stand over making children who can't walk, hop on crutches for more'n 800m to school and back every day it takes til their disability is fixed(if it is non-permenent)?

What's the furthest distance you travelled on crutches with a leg in a cast?
How long have you spent on crutches in your entire life?
What's the longest you spent on crutches as a result of a single incident?

flyingsnail

Carawaystick wrote: »

pm? All of them? I'd imagine traffic'd be fairly light at that time so them driving wouldn't matter so much.



MYOB& foggy_lad, what would you suggest pupils with broken limbs do in yere totalitarian cases?

Making a child hop >800m on crutches to allow able bodied workers get to their jobs which probably don't depend on on all the staff starting at the same time anyway seems a fine proposal.

No sorry, they leave at about 8:30am and are usually back about 5-6 pm

-Chris-

Why are all the solutions focused on students (yes, I'm aware that it's based on the OP), why do we not look at staggering the start and finish times for work rather than school. You'd make a much bigger dent in traffic congestion by doing that imho.

Stark

Work times are already staggered to a certain extent. Most people start work at some time within an 8am to 10am window rather than starting at 9am sharp these days.

People driving to work also tend to just drive straight into the car park with no messing. None of this parked two abreast nonsense outside the school gate blocking the flow of traffic then taking about 5 minutes to do a three point turn while you turn around to go back home. I'd concur with foggy_lad's opinion that having the Gardaí enforce parking regulations in the vicinity of schools would make a huge difference to traffic flow.