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A list of major stocks with high upside
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27-09-2010 2:39am#1
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This sounds like pure bottom feeding, picking the nastiest, riskiest socks out there using recency bias i.e. these stocks have great potential because they used to be higher. Heavy debt,Chapt 11 possibility, high competition makes these stocks very risky and low probability trades. I think you should acknowledge that before listing some imaginary upside targets.
Well said. You have to love the thread title:
"A list of major stocks with high upside" :rolleyes:
It should read
"A list of stocks that have failed to participate in the market rally that are over 50% down from yearly highs. Caveat Emptor"
GLTA
*** I apologize for being so blunt as i just now noticed that you said with good news ... In the case of ARNA
(on your list) if they do get the good news of approval (5% chance IMO) next month then the stock is an instant 5-10 bagger. Maybe you're onto something here.
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Raskolnikov wrote: »Do not go anywhere near any Chinese stocks. Even Barron's have done a report in which they suggest that as many as 1 in 3 Chinese stocks are a scam.
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB127448092382695075.html
Maybe there are decent Chinese companies out there, but the risk of fraud and total loss of the investment is just too high to justify the risk of success.drimadrian wrote: »Well said. You have to love the thread title:
"A list of major stocks with high upside" :rolleyes:
It should read
"A list of stocks that have failed to participate in the market rally that are over 50% down from yearly highs. Caveat Emptor"
GLTA
*** I apologize for being so blunt as i just now noticed that you said with good news ... In the case of ARNA
(on your list) if they do get the good news of approval (5% chance IMO) next month then the stock is an instant 5-10 bagger. Maybe you're onto something here.
It's a long list and if you break it down and watch that smaller list closely you could make a profit from some of these with a relatively low risk if it is timed properly. Just time it right and perhaps some might stop out but the loss to profit will make it worthwhile.
These obsese drugs are struggling to get through FDA, Yes some are betting their entire pipleine on one drug but look at the revelation that the cancer is confined to the particular anatomy of rats and not relvant to humans. Any bullish news resolving the rat cancer issue will likely see a nice bounce. The share price is i think now at book value. It's been hammered and in deep trouble; Irregardless between now and the FDA approval date some news might likely come out forcing this up. I have seen a half dozen of these fittle away but sometimes they take off. If this succeeds then VVUS etc.. might move.drimadrian wrote: »Why would you even think of buying a China small cap stock? Just in the last few weeks a number of them have been called scams/frauds e.g. CSKI CHBT UTA FUQI
There are no internal controls in the PRC. Be careful with these. JMHO.
I am careful. How more careful can one be to buy RINO at $12.88/$13 and have a stop loss the next day at $14.20. That is as careful as you get why else would i mention this. As for FUQI that was red hot a couple of weeks ago. It had a terrffic run. 46% If I recall.
Now i might have bought YUII on thursday and got hit but it's back up again already. There are risks but these chinese companies have great fundamentals. They are worth being being patient for a low risk entry, and RINO was that Stock today.When....OH! when are those chinese small cap stocks going to start reversing.
RINO - BSPM - CRTP - SPU......
Below are the top 10 Small Cap stocks with highest upside potential, UPDATED TODAY before 4:30 AM Friday, September 24, 2010 , based on the difference between current price and Wall Street analysts' average target price. One Chinese company (RINO) is on the list.
I even highlighted RINO. RINO was primed. Am i selling you anything or trying to con anyone. NO! I am just ringing the bell before the bulls come out. You would at least expect you fellas to wait and see if i am right before going on the attack.
I am literally just highlighting stocks that will eventually Rally. I highlighted Rino because I was eager to buy it and it had the most coiled potential. I am very interested in CRTP but unfortunately it suffers from low volume but perhaps and very likely this or next quarter as volume builds it will reward. I do not put these on my portfolio they are only day trades/ swing trades sometimes a closely guarded Buy and hold that i watch carefully. Chinese companies tend to claw back in money so you have to be observant but they are by no means to be written off as worthless.
I think I have a clue lads and would like to give more reasoning and detail to anything i suggest but i find there is not any interest from people on this forum to waste that kind of time. You could easily pick a dozen great stocks to put on a watch list form that larger list.
Well here are the results from RINO.
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I am watching some of the beaten down chinese stocks like ZOOM NEP SPU CAAS etc... for a swing trade. Also this rally has to try hard to break the previous high of the DOW 11200 in April before we see aZOOM has been in a long downtrend but it too might bounce of $3.60+ .... NEP SPU CAAS RINO FEED have all performed as predicted. GLTY
CHARTS for FEED SPU BSPM RINO CASS and NEPHere are the results so far of the stocks I recommended. NEP SPU RINO FEED BSPM etc.....
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I think you IXUS you have fallen victim of the same negative attitude from awhile back. Your attitude is the type that does not factor in trading on the stock market.
As a moderator you will just have to accept that trading means thinking outside the box and also means taking some risk. It requires technical and other knowledge and you can never dissmiss good trading ideas outright like you did or jump to assumptions.
Eh, I trade for a living (I'm not permitted to discuss my trades). I manage risk and "think outside the box" on a daily basis.
It's rare I try and dismantle some ones trade ideas on this forum. Instead, I try and highlight the downside where I feel it necessary. Not necessarily for you but, for other posters/lurkers who may not fully understand the risks involved with trading/investing. I think it's vital for such a subject matter.
As a trader, my focus is on not losing money (to follow the Paul Tudor Jones mantra). It's hard enough to earn it.
EDIT: I also asked about your decision making in post No.8 to show I was actually interested in your entry/exit thoughts. See, I'm not that bad, honest
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Raskolnikov wrote: »Do not go anywhere near any Chinese stocks. Even Barron's have done a report in which they suggest that as many as 1 in 3 Chinese stocks are a scam.
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB127448092382695075.html
Maybe there are decent Chinese companies out there, but the risk of fraud and total loss of the investment is just too high to justify the risk of success.drimadrian wrote: »Why would you even think of buying a China small cap stock? Just in the last few weeks a number of them have been called scams/frauds e.g. CSKI CHBT UTA FUQI
There are no internal controls in the PRC. Be careful with these. JMHO.
Well are you ready to admit your not at all clever, that should never give opinions about trading because you have no clue. The biggest eejits on these forums are the losers who think they have to go about telling be people to be careful the market is a fraud is IMO acceptable and posts liek that belong on the conspiracy forum and not here.
It is not as if people can just walk into a shop and buy shares in a company!!!
If your reading this forum and trading then your already aware of the risks and if your not then how are you able to trade because Brokers require you to read and sign risk disclosures. So it's rather fool proof and this drivel about warning people about trading is so pathetic and unprofessional.
If you smarties can give me a 7 tickers (stocks) that you can guarantee will reward me 30 -40 % in two weeks I would be most grateful. If you can even give me a ticker (stock) that will uptrend and reward me in a moderate period of time.
I hate to think you guys are my peers, it's embarrassing.
Every Pick I gave has produced a solid safe and secure uptrend. Even one of these picks would have lifted your portfolio into a nice profit.
If I recall chinese stocks in 2009 flew then we had credit tightning from china goverment and worries about china's bubble. Many chinese stocks dropped in volume. Now obviously they were oversold and the worries had subsided or were unrealised and shipping is up and technically they are ripe to run.
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Eh, I trade for a living (I'm not permitted to discuss my trades). I manage risk and "think outside the box" on a daily basis.
It's rare I try and dismantle some ones trade ideas on this forum. Instead, I try and highlight the downside where I feel it necessary. Not necessarily for you but, for other posters/lurkers who may not fully understand the risks involved with trading/investing. I think it's vital for such a subject matter.
As a trader, my focus is on not losing money (to follow the Paul Tudor Jones mantra). It's hard enough to earn it.
EDIT: I also asked about your decision making in post No.8 to show I was actually interested in your entry/exit thoughts. See, I'm not that bad, honest
Posters/lurkers..... WTF!
There are no lurkers and there are no posters that can just trade at a whim. All brokers are required to explain the risks and even have traders sign a risk disclosure. They are required to read a lengthy explanation of all the different risks associated with stocks. If they do not understand it then they shouldn't have signed it.
Please just accept that people that trade are adults that are all too aware of the risks of trading and are liable for their own risk taking. You can't trade ADR's without reading risk disclosures. Every 10Q has a risk disclosure. We will never be able to share and exchange idea's if this is your attitude IXUS.
Show me one poster that encouraged trading those tickers I gave. That gave any kind of a bullish outlook. It is just as stupid to give a bearish outlook when the stocks are extremely bullish. I am sure the lurkers and posters that shorted these stocks on the above posters advice are delighted with you IXUS.
By the way you have no right to warn people about risks that hardly even exist except in your own perception of things. That's misleading.
Well I hope you twits are happy that no-one profited from these trades.Another job well done by you eejits :mad:0 -
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Well are you ready to admit your not at all clever, that should never give opinions about trading because you have no clue. The biggest eejits on these forums are the losers who think they have to go about telling be people to be careful the market is a fraud is IMO acceptable and posts liek that belong on the conspiracy forum and not here.
WTF? These stocks are all trading near their yearly lows with the overall market climbing to yearly highs. So because they all bounced since the OP i should hang my head in shame. You have serious issues. As i said before i won't touch any of these China small caps as there are no internal controls in the PRC. Has that changed recently? How many times has FUQI been delinquent on their filings? Give me a break.
The only drivel i read was the nonsense in the OP i.e. major stocks with high upside.If your reading this forum and trading then your already aware of the risks and if your not then how are you able to trade because Brokers require you to read and sign risk disclosures. So it's rather fool proof and this drivel about warning people about trading is so pathetic and unprofessional.
I'm very happy for you. Well done.Every Pick I gave has produced a solid safe and secure uptrend. Even one of these picks would have lifted your portfolio into a nice profit. 0 -
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drimadrian wrote: »FYI Just got an email this morning from my trader pal.
RINO admits to accounting fraud. Stock halted.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE6AI0GF20101119?feedType=RSS&feedName=governmentFilingsNews&rpc=43
He says it will be delisted from Nasdaq now and will probably trade on the Pink Sheets for pennies.
Always do your own DD. GLTA.
This is old news... at this point. If you only got that email this morning,
My trades were swing trades. I don't buy and hold particuarly in chinese stocks with continued tightning meaures by china. Rino was just one of 6 picks i had and I said they were over when they over.
Muddywaters first research report was on ONP which was controversial to say the least with credibility swaying between the company and the analyst. Muddywaters next report was on RINO which tanked. Obviously ONP tanked aswell since wall street was suddenly giving credibiltiy to muddywaters. But ONP recovered almost everything it lost that day.
So if you believe muddywaters then short ONP. If not go long Rino.
RINO apparently claimed to have customers that when contacted had no dealings with Rino..Rino exaggerated revenue etc.
Do you want me to fly over to china and do some undercover DD before I commit to a basic swing trade.0 -
This is old news... at this point. If you only got that email this morning,
This is not old news. The company admitted to accounting fraud today. Even Barrons came out with an article i think yesterday saying the company are working on a rebuttal to the allegations.
As i said before you have serious issues. You clearly do no DD and you jump from one stock to another trying to predict short term movements. It's just ridiculous.
I have no interest in conversing with you anymore. You can have the last say. Good Riddance. 0 -
drimadrian wrote: »This is not old news. The company admitted to accounting fraud today. Even Barrons came out with an article i think yesterday saying the company are working on a rebuttal to the allegations.
As i said before you have serious issues. You clearly do no DD and you jump from one stock to another trying to predict short term movements. It's just ridiculous.
I have no interest in conversing with you anymore. You can have the last say. Good Riddance.
WTF?
A tad bitter aren't we!
You dredged this thread up. Try understand the internet as it is, which is a very transient source of information; while on the other side of the page insults traded do last longer.
So a chinese company on the other side of the world is working on a rebuttal to accusations of fraud. How does that make me offensive or deserving of ridicule. I am not the chinese Ambassador.
If I take pride in Dublin Bus and you get in a fight on a Dublin bus. I suppose you think you can call me up and trade petty insults at me. I am entitled to my opinion.
There is no need for your attitude. Why associate in order to disassociate. Why put a smiley face after writing good riddance!
Your behaviour is undesirable and should be kept as anonymous as your user name and handful of posts.This is not old news.
It is very old news
Muddywaters released that report a good while back and it began to sell off On Nov 9th/10th and was delisted Nov 17th. Your trader pal emailed you on the 19th of November. Either get a better trader pal or get a new attitude or both.
Link with dates.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=rino0
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