Mayo manager's Job

nacho libre

So who is looking likely to land the job now that Micko is out of the reckoning?

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Tommy Lyons has the job;)

Avns1s

John Maughan is also out, which is a pity as in my opinion (and I know there are loads who will disagree going by the comments on the FB page of a local paper today) he brought Mayo football to a level where it hasn't been since he left, on any consistent basis at least.

nacho libre

I fear Lyons talks a good game. As Denis Taylor once said: he never missed a snooker shot from the commentary box. I mean he(Lyons) didn't really distinguish himself with Dublin, did he?

Why didn't they go for Horan? He seems the ideal choice; he has a good knowledge of senior and intermediate club football in the county. Also he was an intelligent player and was a kind of leader on the field- while others would panic he'd get the ball and casually knock over points for fun from long range. I think he'd bring those qualities to management.

WallyGUFC

nacho libre wrote: »

I fear Lyons talks a good game. As Denis Taylor once said: he never missed a snooker shot from the commentary box. I mean he(Lyons) didn't really distinguish himself with Dublin, did he?

Why didn't they go for Horan? He seems the ideal choice; he has a good knowledge of senior and intermediate club football in the county. Also he was an intelligent player and was a kind of leader on the field- while others would panic he'd get the ball and casually knock over points for fun from long range. I think he'd bring those qualities to management.

The ability to...teach the players to knock over points from any range?;)

gally74

Lyons has it

thatsnotmyname

James Horan has it ! (officially)

Best of luck James...

Blackjack

yep.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/horan-named-as-mayo-boss-475686.html

blues2

great news. good decision by the county board.

its here too....
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10959:james-horan-is-new-mayo-senior-football-manager&catid=14&Itemid=100008

gaelic cowboy

Excellent choice thankfully the intense media campaign to promote Lyons to the job failed.

nacho libre

Excellent news.

spider guardian

the odds on lyons had been slashed! i had thought it was a foregone conclusion given lyons' experience with dublin. good appointment though, horan was a great player in his day and he has done very well in bringing ballintubber to the county final. interesting times ahead

yop

Little expectation so we will see what happens.

Seems the players had input into the appointment and pushed for Horan and Nallen in the backroom team.

ManFromAtlantis

good luck to him.

mayo.mick

Best of luck to james and his backroom team, i'm now looking forward to the league.

Flukey

After his comments on the radio this morning he should immediately resign, and if not the county board should fire him. They were totally disgraceful for a manager. He, unbelievably, said that winning the All-Ireland next year is not a priority. So, which match during the championship does he intend to lose? Every manager, whether managing an under fives team or a senior county team should be trying to win every match they play. On that basis, he should be trying to win the All-Ireland, or is he intending to deliberately lose the final or the semi-final or the quarter final or the Connacht final or the Connacht semi-final or the first round? It must be one of those. The way he was talking this morning it sounded as if they were not going to try at some point. If that is his attitude then he should resign or be fired.

Fr Tod Umptious

Flukey wrote: »

After his comments on the radio this morning he should immediately resign, and if not the county board should fire him. They were totally disgraceful for a manager. He, unbelievably, said that winning the All-Ireland next year is not a priority. So, which match during the championship does he intend to lose? Every manager, whether managing an under fives team or a senior county team should be trying to win every match they play. On that basis, he should be trying to win the All-Ireland, or is he intending to deliberately lose the final or the semi-final or the quarter final or the Connacht final or the Connacht semi-final or the first round? It must be one of those. The way he was talking this morning it sounded as if they were not going to try at some point. If that is his attitude then he should resign or be fired.

Do you have a link to the interview ?

Flukey

It was on Morning Ireland sports news, so about 7:35am and again around 8:35am. That should be up on the RTE website, radio section by now. Morning Ireland have their own part of the site, so try here: Morning Ireland.

ManFromAtlantis

ah come on. what he means is that its' just one game at a time' blah de blah .
interviews are just an annoying part of the job to feed the silly people.

dont be getting yourself all worked up.

Flukey

I'm not worked up. I'm not even a Mayoman. But it is the wrong attitude for managers to have. Even if they are taking it one game at a time, they surely want to win that one match and the logical conclusion then is that they win everything. So for Mayo, one match at a time equals winning the Connacht League, National League, Connacht Championship and the All-Ireland. Mickey Harte always takes that kind of attitude. His intention now is to bring Sam back to Tyrone next September, and have it rest with the McKenna Cup, the league cup, and the Anglo Celt cup. All managers should be thinking that way for their own county, no matter who they are managing. Otherwise they have no business being in the job.

An Citeog

Flukey wrote: »

After his comments on the radio this morning he should immediately resign, and if not the county board should fire him. They were totally disgraceful for a manager. He, unbelievably, said that winning the All-Ireland next year is not a priority. So, which match during the championship does he intend to lose? Every manager, whether managing an under fives team or a senior county team should be trying to win every match they play. On that basis, he should be trying to win the All-Ireland, or is he intending to deliberately lose the final or the semi-final or the quarter final or the Connacht final or the Connacht semi-final or the first round? It must be one of those. The way he was talking this morning it sounded as if they were not going to try at some point. If that is his attitude then he should resign or be fired.

Seriously? Pat Gilroy said the same at the start of this year about the Dublin footballers. Building a team and laying the foundations for Mayo football for the next 5-10 years is what's needed. This is incidentally the reason why Tommy Lyons shouldn't have been in the running for the manager's job.

How you've managed to take offence from such a standard and obvious attempt at deflection by a new manager is beyond me!

Flukey

I am not taking offence. I am just saying that managers should be going in trying to win everything. It may not be realistic that their team will win and they may well be aware of that, but they should be trying to win every game they play anyway. The same should apply even if they are building a team. Teams need to win. That is the attitude and intention they should be going on to the field with, having been given to them by their manager. If they are not trying to win everything, does that mean that at some point of the season the manager is going to say "Lads, don't try to win this one, we haven't a hope" and then send them out to play? That is not the attitude.

If they are managing an under fives one-legged blind team against the All-Ireland champions, they should be trying to win. It is like in soccer, teams going out to play for a draw. If they take the lead, do they then try to make sure they concede a goal, so that they get their draw? If they are 10 nil down in the final seconds of injury time, maybe, just maybe, they should then start to think about playing for a draw. Up to that time, they should be trying to win. Anyway, we are going off topic. Good luck to Mayo and James Horan, but he needs to change his attitude if he wants to succeed.

alex73

Knowing James I actually really do think Mayo could be in with a chance to win the all Ireland. James if anything is very very dedicated and a great motivator. I would not be surprised if he turns things around.

An Citeog

Flukey wrote: »

I am not taking offence. I am just saying that managers should be going in trying to win everything. It may not be realistic that their team will win and they may well be aware of that, but they should be trying to win every game they play anyway. The same should apply even if they are building a team. Teams need to win. That is the attitude and intention they should be going on to the field with, having been given to them by their manager. If they are not trying to win everything, does that mean that at some point of the season the manager is going to say "Lads, don't try to win this one, we haven't a hope" and then send them out to play? That is not the attitude.

If they are managing an under fives one-legged blind team against the All-Ireland champions, they should be trying to win. It is like in soccer, teams going out to play for a draw. If they take the lead, do they then try to make sure they concede a goal, so that they get their draw? If they are 10 nil down in the final seconds of injury time, maybe, just maybe, they should then start to think about playing for a draw. Up to that time, they should be trying to win. Anyway, we are going off topic. Good luck to Mayo and James Horan, but he needs to change his attitude if he wants to succeed.

I really think you're reading way too much into this. Granted, I haven't heard the interview but from your first post in this thread, he said that winning the All Ireland next year isn't a priority. What exactly is wrong with that comment? Mayo have regressed over the past few years, culminating in a very poor championship performance this year. Change was badly needed and next year will be Horan's chance to cut off any of the dead wood on the current panel and start afresh. No manager or team goes out to deliberately lose or draw a game but by giving young inexperienced players their chance, you can't be sure how they'll perform. You seem to have taken huge issue with a comment that any manager in Horan's position would have made and comparing him to a 3-time All Ireland winning manager in Mickey Harte with one of the strongest panels in the country is laughable at best.

Flukey

Mickey Harte has those 3 Senior All-Irelands, plus many other grades of All-Irelands and other successes, by going out with the right attitude. He had some young players on his teams and the personnel changed over the course of the 3 All-Irelands. There is lots of young talent coming through, like this year's minor champions, but they are coming through with that winning mentality. It has filtered down now from Mickey Harte to the teams he's not involved in. Tyrone are now being described as the Kerry of Ulster. If you take Kerry, or the Kilkenny or Tipperary hurlers, they all go in with a winning mentality. They all go in with confidence to every game they play. Mayo don't quite have that.

They definitely should have won the All-Ireland in 1989 and 1996, whatever about 1997, 2004 and 2006. Mayo have the talent, just not the attitude. We get glimpses of what they can do when they put their mind to it. Nearly every year they seem to have one big game in them, like Dublin in 2006 or even when they beat Tyrone. They just don't seem to be able to carry through with it into more matches and revert back to their failings of old, like shooting wides from scorable positions. A change in attitude is what they need.

Fr Tod Umptious

Flukey wrote: »

I'm not worked up. I'm not even a Mayoman. But it is the wrong attitude for managers to have.

Don't talk to Mayomen about attitude

We get condemned for getting hyped up when we progress and now e get condemned for taking a reserved approach.

Lets see what next year brings