GAIT analysis

shels4ever

Just wondered if there is anywhere in Ireland that does propper Gait analysis. I've had instore analysis done 3 times with totally different results each time.

I don't think jsut jumping on a threadmill for 10 mins is enough to see a true view of whats going on, as most people on here are marathon or longer distance runners how much does your gait change over distance/time.

I have nothing to back this up but do think that I'm more of a nutrual runner for shorter distance and much more to the forefoot, but after 30-40 mins there is a change for sure.

Has anyone ever had analysis over a longer period/distance to compare your Gait when frech and when tired? or come across and doc's on this?

I think i've read before that there is a change after x amount of time or distance but can't seem to find this now.

tunney

shels4ever wrote: »

Just wondered if there is anywhere in Ireland that does propper Gait analysis. I've had instore analysis done 3 times with totally different results each time.

I don't think jsut jumping on a threadmill for 10 mins is enough to see a true view of whats going on, as most people on here are marathon or longer distance runners how much does your gait change over distance/time.

I have nothing to back this up but do think that I'm more of a nutrual runner for shorter distance and much more to the forefoot, but after 30-40 mins there is a change for sure.

Has anyone ever had analysis over a longer period/distance to compare your Gait when frech and when tired? or come across and doc's on this?

I think i've read before that there is a change after x amount of time or distance but can't seem to find this now.

Yip I've had this done.

Gait analysis when fresh, when tired, when sprinting, when jogging.

Admittedly I had to do it all myself

Neutral in general but overpronate under times of stress and/or fatigue.

shels4ever

tunney wrote: »

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Admittedly I had to do it all myself

Neutral in general but overpronate under times of stress and/or fatigue.

How did you go about doing it?
video cam and a threadmill at home?

BeepBeep67

Irish Fit do it - but last time I looked it was pretty expensive.

tunney

shels4ever wrote: »

How did you go about doing it?
video cam and a threadmill at home?

nothing that complicated.

Got a Gait analysis done fresh.

Run 30km and finished at shop. Got gait analysis done

shels4ever

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Irish Fit do it - but last time I looked it was pretty expensive.

€150 euro :eek:

V1llianous

I got it done when buying new runners at http://www.amphibianking.ie/ - don't think I was charged.

RubyK

I got it done for free in Mahers in Cork.

It wasn't done using a treadmill though, they used a sensor mat, that you walk over several times/stand on barefoot. They then upload the images onto a computer, and and make a judgement from those.

I got a pair of Mizuno wave, which, touch wood, I've not had any problems with (from previous stuggling in a pair of Kayano 16's).

shels4ever

Thanks but the main question isnt about where to get the free Gait its how to get propper analysis as you progress in your run, most analysis is done when your fresh and wouldnt cover more then a mile max, looking at 1 mile, 5mile and 10 miles + etc.

kennyb3

shels4ever wrote: »

€150 euro :eek:

yeah but if you want something done right is it not worth paying for, how many multiples of that might you spend on physios?

macinalli

The best analysis I've had done is by Catriona McKiernan for the chi running course. She puts you running in the car-park at the start, records this, and then later goes through what you're doing with each participant. She won't tell you if you're an over/under-pronator but instead focussed on how your foot was hitting the ground (heel strike/front of foot etc). If you are doing something wrong, she's also pretty relentless in pushing you to fixing it and won't give you any peace until you do what she's asking!

Not quite the question that was asked, but it's been the single biggest help in sorting out issues I was having due to my running style.

tunney

kennyb3 wrote: »

yeah but if you want something done right is it not worth paying for, how many multiples of that might you spend on physios?

Paying 150 euro for something is no guarantee that it will be done right.

Also there is nothing on the Irishfit site that meets the OPs requirements

shels4ever

kennyb3 wrote: »

yeah but if you want something done right is it not worth paying for, how many multiples of that might you spend on physios?

Yep true but think tunney way of doing it works out better . Could be just a matter of getting it done for free at the end of a long run . Was also look to see if anyone has more info on the science in relation to GAIT and fatigue so I can decide for myself Havent found too many studies on this yet.

RoyMcC

shels4ever wrote: »

Yep true but think tunney way of doing it works out better .

As long as you don't run the 30k and find it's early closing at the shop :pac:

shels4ever

RoyMcC wrote: »

As long as you don't run the 30k and find it's early closing at the shop :pac:

I think I'd need a tad less then 30k to be under strress

kennyb3

tunney wrote: »

Paying 150 euro for something is no guarantee that it will be done right.

Also there is nothing on the Irishfit site that meets the OPs requirements

I didnt say that €150 would do it right or that Irish fit would do it right, merely pointing out that it always surprises me when people see such things as expensive compared to say a night in the pub. People waste money on far more trivial things. €150 or €500 or whatever it costs to be able to run injury free is worth it in my book. In fact id give you 2 grand right now to never have another injury again

Rigsy

I got it done in Irishfit a couple of years ago taking that view that it was worth the money to get it done right.

Although it won't take into account gait when tired it will give a more overall picture of how the body reacts when running. I found it gave a more complete picture and showed up things that weren't showing up on a normal analysis done below the knees.

I thought it was well worth it.

woody1

the running school, castlebar... not an ad, ive got nothing to do with them , i only know about them cos i looked into the same thing as you a few months ago... i decided it was too expensive €300 odd at the time 6 months later and with worse knees than before im coming round to it... will wait til after sea to summit and think about it a bit more... they do offer online analysis ... you send in your own video clip and they get back to you for €40 ive no idea how in-depth this is or not... at least for the higher amount you get some lessons on how to improve your technique ... has anyone on here done the course or had any dealings...

menoscemo

+1 on getting the Gait analysis on tired legs. I was diagnosed as neutral (when fresh) but got lots of ankle injuries when ramping up the miles.
I got reasessed in my (neutral) Pegasus coming straight of a 12 mile run last february and couldn't believe the roll in my ankles when they played it back on the computer....Since then Ihave switched to lunar glides and touchwood have had no runner related injuries since. I had one due to my own stupidity but not the fault of the shoes

JosDel

I got my done in april in amphibian king, they suggected i wear a neutral shoe for flat feet, thinking about getting it done again, I wear brooks dyad5 and I find them very hard on my feet especially around the ball of my foot which I have a bit of discomfort at the moment in the right foot.

Jnealon

I got the Dyads after getting the gait analysis done and they are a pig of a shoe. I was getting pains I never got before
I find a good neutral shoe is the nimbus. Asics do a 3D scan which I have not seen before, not sure how it is

rainbow kirby

Jnealon wrote: »

I got the Dyads after getting the gait analysis done and they are a pig of a shoe. I was getting pains I never got before
I find a good neutral shoe is the nimbus. Asics do a 3D scan which I have not seen before, not sure how it is

I was put in Dyads about 2-3 months after I started running, wore them 2-3 times - I absolutely hated them. They felt like bricks on my feet, and I'm not neutral anyway (mild overpronation on right foot, moderate on left).

Not knocking them if they're the right shoe for someone, I just really didn't like them. It's a bit of a niche market that they're aimed at though.

JosDel

Going to drop into runways next week and see how the Asics nimbus feel on my feet, Agree with the above 2 posts, Dont like dyads at all...

back to form

where did you buy the Dyads?They are a neutral shoe for people with flat feet,very rare you see this !!!
Tunney running 30k seems abit ott but whatever works for you

JosDel

back to form wrote: »

where did you buy the Dyads?They are a neutral shoe for people with flat feet,very rare you see this !!!
Tunney running 30k seems abit ott but whatever works for you

I got mine in amphibian king

tunney

back to form wrote: »

where did you buy the Dyads?They are a neutral shoe for people with flat feet,very rare you see this !!!
Tunney running 30k seems abit ott but whatever works for you

Point was to turn up fatigued. For some this is 10km, others 30km, others more.

Seres

got mine done with sharon morris a physio in galway , she specialises in gait analysis/biomechanics , got it done when i was on reasonably low mileage , had no injury issues then , she said the main problem with my gait was coming from my hips and not really an overpronation issue as reported by elverys in galway , said my left glutes was weak , causing myy left hip to drop to much while running , she gave me core work to strenghten it up , didnt do enough core work , increased the mileage and where am i at now , stretched ****eal joint in my lower back/buttock cause of weak glutes on my left , so if you want someone good i recommend her