Mind your own affairs.

byhookorbycrook

Am I the only one fed up of various (well paid) American guys telling us how to run our country, education etc. Is it arrogance or ignorance???
It's not that their systems are fantastic...#

From RTE:

Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08

The managing director of the Irish subsidiary of State Street Corporation has called for 30,000 redundancies in the public sector.

Addressing a conference in Dublin on the Croke Park Agreement, William Slattery said these redundancies were necessary to save money and increase efficiency in the public sector.


He said they should be achieved by a cost-effective voluntary programme.

galwayrush

I thought he made sense, 50,000 extra public service workers since 2001...........:eek::eek::eek:

brummytom

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Is it arrogance or ignorance???

Seeing as they're American men, it's probably half and half

myflipflops

Why are Irish people more qualified to comment on Irish affairs?

We should happily take advice off the most qualified people who are familiar with our situation.

I'm not sure if you have noticed but 'minding our own affairs' has been pretty unsuccessful as of late......

fonecrusher1

Way way too many public sector workers in this country.

So its a good idea as far as im concerned.:)

Absurdum

Good luck with finding 30,000 people who will voluntarily give up their jobs in this day and age, yankee doodle dandy man.

Fratton Fred

the fact that he is the head of a global corporation's Irish subsidiary suggests to me that the guy may know what he is talking about.

****wits generally don't progress that far.

galwayrush

Absurdum wrote: »

Good luck with finding 30,000 people who will voluntarily give up their jobs in this day and age, yankee doodle dandy man.

The I.M.F. would find a way.:rolleyes:

squod

STATE Street's Irish boss Willie Slattery said the National Asset Management Agency (NAMA) is "crazy", too secretive and could waste as much as €15bn.

So, we're gonna listen to him now? Where's that horse gone...........

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/state-street-chief-warns-crazy-nama-scheme-will-waste-836415bn-2136394.html

TheZohanS

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Am I the only one fed up of various (well paid) American guys telling us how to run our country, education etc. Is it arrogance or ignorance???
It's not that their systems are fantastic...#

From RTE:

Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08

The managing director of the Irish subsidiary of State Street Corporation has called for 30,000 redundancies in the public sector.

Addressing a conference in Dublin on the Croke Park Agreement, William Slattery said these redundancies were necessary to save money and increase efficiency in the public sector.


He said they should be achieved by a cost-effective voluntary programme.

William Slattery of An Board Snip?

Maybe do some research:

He was Managing Director of State Street International (Ireland) Limited since February 2003, following the acquisition by State Street Corporation of Deutsche International (Ireland) Limited. Mr Slattery had been Managing Director of Deutsche International (Ireland) Limited since January 2002.
He worked for the Central Bank of Ireland for more than twenty years until 1996 and was responsible for supervising Dublin’s IFSC from its establishment in 1987 until 1995. Immediately prior to leaving the Central Bank of Ireland Mr Slattery was Deputy Head of Banking Supervision where he was responsible for the supervision of all Irish banks and building societies.
Mr Slattery joined Deutsche Morgan Grenfell (Ireland) in 1996. Following a short period in Ireland, Mr Slattery moved to London where he held a number of senior compliance and risk management positions in the Asset Management Division of Deutsche Bank.
From 1999 to 2001 he was Managing Director and Global Head of Risk Management for the Division and a member of the Deutsche Bank Group Risk Board.

Source.

My name is URL

squod wrote: »

So, we're gonna listen to him now? Where's that horse gone...........

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/state-street-chief-warns-crazy-nama-scheme-will-waste-836415bn-2136394.html

Did he give any details of an alternative to NAMA? Or is he one of the many that just think that turning our backs on such an issue will make it go away?

Nodin

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Am I the only one fed up of various (well paid) American guys telling us how to run our country, education etc. Is it arrogance or ignorance???
It's not that their systems are fantastic...#

From RTE:

Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08

The managing director of the Irish subsidiary of State Street Corporation has called for 30,000 redundancies in the public sector.

Addressing a conference in Dublin on the Croke Park Agreement, William Slattery said these redundancies were necessary to save money and increase efficiency in the public sector.


He said they should be achieved by a cost-effective voluntary programme.

The company is American, I'm not sure he is.

sidelines

He is not American, he is Irish. And as Fratton Fred said, the Americans don't tend to let someone head up their non US sites without having some cop-on, unlike those heading up our bloated, bureaucratic public sector

ILA

I'm sick of all these foreign economists that are being brought onto shows as well, preaching absolutely right-wing, pro-privatisation policies as if we aren't in enough bother as it is without turning the place into a Thatcherite ****hole.

AckwelFoley

Ah sur we'll be grand

Absurdum

galwayrush wrote: »

The I.M.F. would find a way.:rolleyes:

may I refer you to this thread and kindly change the record while you're at it

Dudess

It's not simply a case of these well-paid American guys telling us how to run our affairs without being invited to - they were asked for their advice.

galwayrush

Absurdum wrote: »

may I refer you to this thread and kindly change the record while you're at it

Change what record?

Absurdum

galwayrush wrote: »

Change what record?

the IMF fingerwagginngnessrolleyes combo

galwayrush

Absurdum wrote: »

the IMF fingerwagginngnessrolleyes combo

You obviously missed the meaning of this..(.:rolleyes: )
Seriously, i think only something like the I.M.F. could sort out the monster that is our Public Service, i mean 50,000 increase in numbers since 2001, FFS, we can't afford that.

squod

My name is URL wrote: »

Did he give any details of an alternative to NAMA? Or is he one of the many that just think that turning our backs on such an issue will make it go away?

Eh........ not bailing out a private company (Anglo) with no hope of recovery, during a recession.

curlzy

galwayrush wrote: »

I thought he made sense, 50,000 extra public service workers since 2001...........:eek::eek::eek:

Yeah sounds quite nuts doesn't it? But then you read in the indo:

"Ireland’s birth rate is the highest in Europe with almost 72,000 babies born in one year, latest figures revealed today".

and from: Martin Ruhs, Centre on Migration, Policy and Society (COMPAS) Oxford University

"Ireland's economic boom during the 1990s brought unprecedented levels of prosperity and helped transform it into a "country of net immigration" by the early 2000s. For the first time in its history, Ireland experienced a significant inflow of migrants — both workers and asylum seekers — from outside the European Union."

So when you think about it all these extra people need housing and social supports and birth certs and passports and hospitals and permits to build things and work and roads to get places and police and so on and so forth 50,000 extra people doesn't really seem that astronomical does it?

Hmmm something does add up I tells ya!!! Someone is defo out to get the civil servants and make them look bad, after all they are following the government's orders aren't they? I mean jesus christ, they're the sacrificial lamb!

I just don't understand how people can be so easily swept up in blaming the people who carry out the government's orders, it's not their fault the government is ****, everyone votes after all!!! And let's not forget that the civil and public servants are on the national average wage, yeah sure there are a few silly salarys but that's a tiny portion of them. The vast majority are struggling just as hard as everyone else is. The public service is just that: it serves the public, imagine having none.

Just saying

galwayrush

curlzy wrote: »

Yeah sounds quite nuts doesn't it? But then you read in the indo:

"Ireland’s birth rate is the highest in Europe with almost 72,000 babies born in one year, latest figures revealed today".

and from: Martin Ruhs, Centre on Migration, Policy and Society (COMPAS) Oxford University

"Ireland's economic boom during the 1990s brought unprecedented levels of prosperity and helped transform it into a "country of net immigration" by the early 2000s. For the first time in its history, Ireland experienced a significant inflow of migrants — both workers and asylum seekers — from outside the European Union."

So when you think about it all these extra people need housing and social supports and birth certs and passports and hospitals and permits to build things and work and roads to get places and police and so on and so forth 50,000 extra people doesn't really seem that astronomical does it?

Hmmm something does add up I tells ya!!! Someone is defo out to get the civil servants and make them look bad, after all they are following the government's orders aren't they? I mean jesus christ, they're the sacrificial lamb!

I just don't understand how people can be so easily swept up in blaming the people who carry out the government's orders, it's not their fault the government is ****, everyone votes after all!!!

Just saying

Fair points, but how many are now emigrating ?

curlzy

galwayrush wrote: »

Fair points, but how many are now emigrating ?

From insideireland.ie:
"Figures from Eurostat have revealed that Ireland has the highest emigration rate in the EU.

The figures show that Irish emigration rate during 2009 was 9%. This was twice the rate of emigration levels of the next country, Lithuania, at 4.6%.

Other countries showing high levels of emigration included Cyprus, Latvia and Bulgaria.

Recent forecasts from the ESRI have warned that up to 120,000 will leave the country by the end of 2011 if employment levels do not improve.

However, these statistics are balanced by the fact that Ireland’s birth rate, at 10%, is the highest. Britain and France follow, with Germany and Austria ranking lowest."


From me: "TA-DA!!!"

See it's kinda static really. Now granted this will influence the age range of the population but not drastically and after all under 18's need a huge amount of services to support them.

Such is life and all.:)

Snakeblood

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Am I the only one fed up of various (well paid) American guys telling us how to run our country, education etc. Is it arrogance or ignorance???
It's not that their systems are fantastic...#

From RTE:

Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08

The managing director of the Irish subsidiary of State Street Corporation has called for 30,000 redundancies in the public sector.

Addressing a conference in Dublin on the Croke Park Agreement, William Slattery said these redundancies were necessary to save money and increase efficiency in the public sector.


He said they should be achieved by a cost-effective voluntary programme.

No, he's got a perfect right to express his opinion, and he's saying something that should be said.