Documentary on Nazi's in Russia

p1akuw47h5r3it

Came across this on YouTube, is very frightening. Just wondering is racism in Russia as big a problem as it seems to be here?

The documentary maker also says that it is estimated that "up to half of the world's neo-Nazis are thought to live in Russia", shocking when you consider how many men and women died fighting Nazi-ism and it's ideologies in Russia. The crime at the end of the secound video is truly horrific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLUxuq-E9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuOVgx3Zh6E&feature=related

survivor2

Yes, there is a problem. And it's getting worse due to the decline of education and culture in Russia. Many young people now have no work and normal access to education. Average wages in Russia's regions do not exceed 200 euros per month.But,at the same time the prices for food and essential goods have long ago ecxeeded the prices levels in the EU countries.

In such conditions, Russia can expect anything to happen.

Horrible video at the end of the second link is recognized by experts as a kind of falsification,some sources say.
The Nazis still manifest themselves in large cities. In the province until they almost never seen.

La_Gordy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNDHe1NLcc4&feature=related

And a documentary about the anti-fascism movement.

survivor2

As we know,weak corrupt economy generates incivility, terrorism,nazism and so on.

p1akuw47h5r3it

La_Gordy wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNDHe1NLcc4&feature=related

And a documentary about the anti-fascism movement.

thats a very interesting Doc.

thanks

Moomoo1

well, we've had our first pogrom yesterday

p1akuw47h5r3it

Moomoo1 wrote: »

well, we've had our first pogrom yesterday

First what?

survivor2

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AFP
As many as 5,000 people were involved in the protest






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MOSCOW: Russian football fans and ultranationalists ran riot in the centre of Moscow on Saturday, when a demonstration against the death of a fan descended into violence that left 13 people hospitalised.

Thousands of fans, supported by members of far-right groups, gathered in Manezhnaya Square near the Kremlin for the unauthorised protest, with some shouting slogans such as "Russia for Russians" and performing Nazi salutes, according to an AFP photographer.

They were protesting the death of Yegor Sviridov, a Spartak Moscow fan who was shot in the head last Saturday during a fight with men from the Russian Caucasus.

The incident has exposed the close links between Russian extremists and football supporters, and is a major embarrassment for the country so soon after it won the right to host the FIFA World Cup in 2018.

As many as 5,000 people, many wearing hoods and scarves to cover their faces, descended on the square, and fighting quickly broke out when protestors threw flares and objects at anti-riot police.

Several dozen supporters suffered injuries as they fought with police, while demonstrators also violently attacked at least five men of Caucasus origin, who were seen with bleeding faces.

A total of 65 people were arrested, according to police.

"Thirteen people including police officers have been hospitalised," said Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliyev, who blamed the violence on "left-wing extremists".

Protestors beat up a cameraman of state news agency RIA Novosti and smashed his camera.

Security was reinforced in the Moscow metro system after demonstrators smashed a number of barriers, Russian news agencies reported.

"If the authorities don't change the policy on immigration, there will be a lot of bloodshed," said one demonstrator, whose face was hidden behind a black mask.

Moscow police chief Vladimir Kolokoltsev said he had been to the square to talk with demonstrators, and confirmed that police had kept force to a minimum.

This provoked criticism from rights activists, who say police rarely show such restraint when dealing with opposition protests.

The suspect in Sviridov's shooting, Aslan Cherkesov, who is from the Caucasus republic of Kabardino-Balkaria, is under arrest and claimed he was acting in self defence.

The violence followed a protest on Tuesday evening in which around 1,000 people blocked a Moscow highway and shouted racist slogans.

Meanwhile in Saint Petersburg, around 1,500 supporters gathered for a similar unauthorised protest.

Police arrested about 60 people when fans broke through a police cordon and stopped traffic on several major roads.

Spartak Moscow is one of the top Russian premiership sides and it has an impassioned support base in the capital.

As Russia prepares to host the 2018 World Cup, its football fans -- some of whom model themselves on British hooligans, wearing the same fashion labels and calling themselves "firms" -- will be closely watched by the authorities.

In July another Spartak fan, telejournalist Yury Volkov, was stabbed to death in a fight with men from the Russian Caucasus in a central Moscow park. A Chechen man has been charged with the crime.

The killing prompted fans to brandish banners with Volkov's name at matches and to hold several public protests.

http://thehimalayantimes.com/rssReference.php?headline=Russian+football+fans+run+riot+in+Moscow+protest&NewsID=269168


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeUlMYxNMlQ&feature=player_embedded#!

As Russian media sources say Caucasians are going to arrange the return pogrom on December 15

Pogrom-wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom

Moomoo1

survivor2 wrote: »

aucasians are going to arrange the return pogrom on December 15

that's not true. It's a malicious rumour originating from this http://allan999.livejournal.com/8865375.html. But if you read it and the comments carefully you'll see that it's probably a hoax. In any case, it does not call to violence explicitely, more to self-defense.

survivor2

It looks like there are some hidden groups who are managing distemper in the country

p1akuw47h5r3it

What is the feeling of the majority of Russians with regards to immigration policies and Extreme nationalists??

And what does this translate as?? у знакомого свой автосервис,на котором работают китайцы, был у нас как то разговор с ним на китайскую тему , так вот он говорит, если приглашаешь на работу местных мужиков , то кпд вообще ни какой , бухлишко и все такое, а китайцы пашут от рассвета до заката , понимаете о чем я? Так вот, в топку бухло и наркоту , это необходимо решить каждому для себя.Мы же сами себя травим !!! И пахать надо от рассвета до заката , во блага отечества , ну и конечно в свое благо))))

it's one of the top rated comments, the translator doesnt make sense ha

Moomoo1

says 'my chinese employees work hard and the russian ones just drink'

today they (the nazis) rioted on kievskaya, half a mile from where my grandparents live.

this isn't about immigration though: the nationalities that the nazis are against the most (Chechens, Ingush, the Dagestan nationalities) are Russian citizens.

survivor2

Some sources indicate that the real reason for the riots is the decline in living standards in Russia

Moscow, December 15 (New Region, Olga Vetrova) - Genuine reason for Moscow's unrest - social, economic.

The conflict on ethnic grounds - it is the "second reason". Such an opinion in a telephone interview told the "New Region" stated one of the suspects, Vladimir Krymov (name changed - approx.).

As the young man, he became the accidental witness to the events near the metro station Kiyevskaya, where he was arrested 3 hours ago. Vladimir was brought to the Police station in Strogino, also about 20 people were brought too.

"I have no idea for what I was detained. I have not yet reported, "- he said.

Riots and the radicalization of youth, in his opinion, due to the fact that "tired of everything happening in the country" - social problems.

"Murder of Yegor Sviridov(Russian soccer fun) was just an occasion.And the basis of nationality is the second reason. I personally saw: on the side of Russians many Tatars were fighting. What kind of nazi question here! "- says Vladimir.

http://www.nr2.ru/moskow/313247.html

Moomoo1

if the decline of living standards is the problem, then why was there no Nazism in the 90's?

survivor2

I am not arguing,just place some quotes.

As I told before: there are some hidden forces who began to rock the boat



http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/15/1000-detained-in-russia-to-prevent-ethnic-clashes/

robindch

Moomoo1 wrote: »

if the decline of living standards is the problem, then why was there no Nazism in the 90's?

Because during the 90's open nationalism and a Russia-first attitude wasn't being encouraged by the Kremlin.

Moomoo1

robindch wrote: »

Because during the 90's open nationalism and a Russia-first attitude wasn't being encouraged by the Kremlin.

agree 100%

survivor2

Russian Nationalism Threatens to Destroy the Russian Federation

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/columns//article/russian-nationalism-threatens-to-destroy-the-russian-federation/376161.html