Linkin Park's New Album - Mod Note Post 1

cena

anyoine get there new album. is it any good or does anyone care about them anymore

Mod Note: Please stick to the topic and, if you do or don't like the album please elaborate on why as doing that promotes discussion which is pretty much why everyone is here in the first place.

120_Minutes

was given a free promo copy last week, listened to about half of it. its not what you'd expect, almost a concept or soundtrack album. i respect what they're doing, its very un-LP like but i'm not sure if its any good. production, as expected is top notch though.

maybe a few more listens though....

cena

how did you get a promo copy. do you work in a music shop

jack presley

I was never a fan of LP. I never got into that nu-metal w*nk around the mid to late 90's so the 1st 2 albums wouldn't be my scene at all but there were a few decent tracks on the last album. I had a listen to this new one and it's a bit of a strange one but I think I might like it.

The Volt

I like it. Took a few listens. Very experimental. Check out a track called 'Blackout'. It's incredibly intense.

Malice

I got a hold of it last week and it is so far removed from Hybrid Theory it might as well be a different band. There's no screaming, no growling, no distorted guitars and in my opinion nothing to recommend it if you like their old stuff.

Max Power1

I was at the listening party in new fibbers (coincidentally, i didnt know it was on) the day before it came out. It sounded like a lot of pop-rock rubbish IMO.

Malice

Max Power1 wrote: »

It sounded like a lot of pop-rock rubbish IMO.

Fixed your post .

Knifey Spoony

I was big into these guys when they first came out, but couldn't care less about them now. To me their music seems to match whatever trend is popular and selling in rock. Like, the early stuff was nu-metal (Hybird Theory), that died so they jumped on the soft rock approach (Minutes to Midnight) and now onto a sort of dance/rock mix (ala Pendulum). Just to much of big change in direction for me. That, and the fact that they seemed to prefer remixing their own songs instead of releasing new stuff really put them off me.

AlanFurl

couldn't be less of a "rock album by a rock band" if it tried. why do they have a bassist??!?!

its very electronic, very textural in sound and quite different to anything else mainstream out there. I suggest people give it a try before dismissing it as another nu-metal/radio rock album.

I'm not saying its fantastic and I'm not saying its a turgid pile of cow dung either...but I am kinda liking it at the very least. If there was no rapping on it, I'd probably like it a lot more.

(def not a metal album so it may get torn to shreds here!!!)

Black Magician

AlanFurl wrote: »

(def not a metal album so it may get torn to shreds here!!!)

i didnt want to say anything incase of offending someones, dare I say it it, taste, in music. but yes GAY band all around.

AlanFurl

haha!!! there ya go!!!!

agreed, as gay as

Motley Crue

, but again, I wouldn't want to insult anyone's taste

Beekay

Seems more along the lines of NIN than Linkin Park

Black Magician

AlanFurl wrote: »

haha!!! there ya go!!!!

agreed, as gay as

Motley Crue

, but again, I wouldn't want to insult anyone's taste

Motely who??!! least there is no mention so far on this thread of Nickleback ...whoops

AlanFurl

if you ever feel like venting, just head over to Nickelback's last.fm page, post some crap about how they are the worst band on the planet, sit back and watch the fans go ape, its a mindless way to waste some time. Some times their fans retaliate and start slagging your favourite bands.....lol...the crapness of Nickelback is as far reaching as a trillion light years away in the back of beyond in space. WHAT A BAND. Truly.

Zombienosh

I've only heard the single and its the worst thing ive ever heard.

Malice

*Sigh* What is it about certain bands that make people post drivel?

Black Magician, please try to be a bit more imaginative in your posts. Dismissing something as "gay" is what a six year old might do. You don't like Linkin Park or this album? Fine, I'm not particularly impressed by them either but elaborate on why you don't like it. That way we can have a discussion.

AlanFurl, please don't drag threads off-topic. I don't like Nickelback either but I've no need to post about them in an utterly unrelated thread. Also please don't slag off Mötley Crüe on this forum of all places.

While I may have singled out the above two posters, the same goes for anyone else posting on this thread.

UnitedIrishman

Think most of it is shocking bad stuff but quite like 'Wretches and Kings' for its NIN type sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Duhq5oCp0

Black Magician

Malice_ wrote: »

*Sigh* What is it about certain bands that make people post drivel?

Black Magician, please try to be a bit more imaginative in your posts. Dismissing something as "gay" is what a six year old might do. You don't like Linkin Park or this album? Fine, I'm not particularly impressed by them either but elaborate on why you don't like it. That way we can have a discussion.

lol sorry to be honest I havent heard much of them but what I have heard/seen I guess can be described as a band attemtping some lame techo/rap/rock style with expensive CGI videos that appeal middle upper class type American kids. One word can sum them up for me....:rolleyes:

Malice

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Think most of it is shocking bad stuff but quite like 'Wretches and Kings' for its NIN type sound.

That's one of the songs I picked up on first, they erm "borrowed" the intro from Timelessness by Fear Factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i15MSdb99qg

Fear Factory did it far better in my opinion though with the sound sample panning from left to right on the album track.

Riddle101

I used to like Linkin Park. I thought Hybrid Theory and Meteora were quite good, but after that it just went downhill. My first problem is the fact that they brought out an album of Remixed songs, that they had made. It just dosen't make sense, to remix your own songs expecially if they're not that old either. Then they started working with Rappers and Hip Hop artists, which ok I guess if they want to try new things then fine. But I didn't like their work with them. They just didn't mesh well. Finally nowadays their music just isn't great, it really isn't. I listen to their music and I just think, what happened to you guys? it just looks like they got lazy after the Meteora album and are still living off of the success of their debut album Hybrid Theory

dcr22B

Malice_ wrote: »

That's one of the songs I picked up on first, they erm "borrowed" the intro from Timelessness by Fear Factory.

Timelessness, now that is a song

Saw a promo ad for the new LP album and sorry not my cupán tae at all.

Malice

Riddle101 wrote: »

It just dosen't make sense, to remix your own songs expecially if they're not that old either.

You're the second person to post that and I'm curious why. I've always liked when bands remix their own songs and there are a few great tracks on that Reanimation album e.g. Crawling, One Step Closer, With You. Mind you, I'm also one of the few people on here who liked Remanufacture as well

Kess73

Malice_ wrote: »

You're the second person to post that and I'm curious why. I've always liked when bands remix their own songs and there are a few great tracks on that Reanimation album e.g. Crawling, One Step Closer, With You. Mind you, I'm also one of the few people on here who liked Remanufacture as well

Add another name to those few



As for the LP album. I think it is quite bland. Smacks of an album that was made with fitting a perception or supposed trend in mind, rather than made to stand on musical merits.If a smaller name band had released the same album I reckon it would be getting no thread time on here.

MickShamrock

Haven't heard the album, but it's managed to make the number one album slot in America 253,685 copies sold in its first week.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Knifey Spoony

Malice_ wrote: »

You're the second person to post that and I'm curious why. I've always liked when bands remix their own songs and there are a few great tracks on that Reanimation album e.g. Crawling, One Step Closer, With You. Mind you, I'm also one of the few people on here who liked Remanufacture as well

I did enjoy Reanimation when it came out, it was really different to anything else that I was listening to at the time. But when they did the MTV mash-up thing, it just seemed to me that they would prefer to rely on their old songs rather than press ahead with new material. It just seemed lazy that they would have three version of a song. Remixing a song once is fine, but the second time is kind of taking the piss.

Malice

Knifey Spoony wrote: »

I did enjoy Reanimation when it came out, it was really different to anything else that I was listening to at the time. But when they did the MTV mash-up thing, it just seemed to me that they would prefer to rely on their old songs rather than press ahead with new material. It just seemed lazy that they would have three version of a song. Remixing a song once is fine, but the second time is kind of taking the piss.

Heh, I disliked that Collision Course album so much I completely forgot about it .
I agree entirely about taking the piss.

Was it when Meteora was released where Mike Shinoda said something like that they had 60 or 80 songs done and chose the best twelve for the album? I remember thinking that if the best twelve made the album, the songs that didn't make the cut must have been very poor indeed.

Knifey Spoony

Malice_ wrote: »

Was it when Meteora was released where Mike Shinoda said something like that they had 60 or 80 songs done and chose the best twelve for the album? I remember thinking that if the best twelve made the album, the songs that didn't make the cut must have been very poor indeed.

Yup, I remember one of them saying that they did have a huge amount of songs written for that album. That fact used to annoy me when I was still a fan. Like if they could write so many songs why not work on some of them a small bit more and release an ablum instead of remixing old songs. But, looking back now, you're probably right, those rejected songs must have been pretty bad indeed,

tommyboy26

i have all lp real albums{not albums of remixed crap} and do i dare say im a fan........


bought the new album bout two weeks ago and thought it was crap actually after listening to first few songs i took it out of cd player to make sure it was the right album......

all that said i have continued to listen to it and it has really grown on me its a far cry from hybrid theory but i get that there tryin to be different and grow as a band but didnt metallica try that with load and reload and they were crap albums......

part of me likes{or evens loves} the new album but would still prefer hybrid theory


tommy

Max Power1

tommyboy26 wrote: »

i have all lp real albums{not albums of remixed crap} and do i dare say im a fan........


bought the new album bout two weeks ago and thought it was crap actually after listening to first few songs i took it out of cd player to make sure it was the right album......

all that said i have continued to listen to it and it has really grown on me its a far cry from hybrid theory but i get that there tryin to be different and grow as a band but didnt metallica try that with load and reload and they were crap albums......

part of me likes{or evens loves} the new album but would still prefer hybrid theory


tommy

tommyboy26

Max Power1 wrote: »

had to say something too many people dislike it.

Max Power1

tommyboy26 wrote: »

had to say something too many people dislike it.

*sigh* I wasnt going to reply for fear of derailing the discussion (there is a metallica superthread for that type of discussion) but just because a band makes an album that sounds a bit different to the previous ones does not automatically make the new albums "crap". There were a lot of good songs on load and reload, and they are certainly not "crap" albums.

anyway back on topic. The new LP album is total and utter tripe. I grew out of their other albums (Hybrid theory & meteora) when I grew out of my nu metal phase, but they were decent. The new album sounds like something busted or mcfly would write. Middle of the road radio pop-rock.

tommyboy26

Max Power1 wrote: »

*sigh* I wasnt going to reply for fear of derailing the discussion (there is a metallica superthread for that type of discussion) but just because a band makes an album that sounds a bit different to the previous ones does not automatically make the new albums "crap". There were a lot of good songs on load and reload, and they are certainly not "crap" albums.

anyway back on topic. The new LP album is total and utter tripe. I grew out of their other albums (Hybrid theory & meteora) when I grew out of my nu metal phase, but they were decent. The new album sounds like something busted or mcfly would write. Middle of the road radio pop-rock.

okay maybe i was a bit over the top sayin that they were crap as i am a massive metallica fan....but come on to compare a thousand suns to a mcfly or busted album is a bit crazy......:eek::eek:

The Volt

Yeah definitely an over reaction the Max, while I'm not overly fond of the new album it doesn't deserve that harsh of a criticism!

Malice

tommyboy26 wrote: »

had to say something too many people dislike it.

No, you didn't have to call Load and Reload crap. That has nothing to do with this thread topic and I've already had words with some posters on this thread about keeping on topic so consider this a request for you to do the same. As Max Power1 pointed out, there's a Metallica thread where you can put that view and discuss it.

Overheal

Put it off for a while but I went and grabbed it today.

Best way to say it is did you know that on iTunes, the band has released A Thousand Suns as one single 47 minute track?? Of course you need to buy the album to get this exclusive itunes version track, but it illustrates the point made by some of the reviews: This is not a collection of songs, its an Album. An epic*.

*epic meaning epic in scope or genre or targeted scale, that in itself is not a comment or opinion on the quality of the album.

Really so far liking the Catalyst and the opening track Requiem. When They Come For Me is quickly growing on me too.

The 47min track would be perfect to toss into a shuffle though. man I really don't want to install iTunes or give money to Apple.

I like that they've made each album different to date, and more importantly that they've moved on from some of their more Angsty themes found in Hybrid Theory and Meteora: of those I wasn't a big fan of the writing, but the sound has always been great to listen to.

Malice

Overheal wrote: »

The 47min track would be perfect to toss into a shuffle though. man I really don't want to install iTunes or give money to Apple.

Assuming you've already got the source MP3s can't you just grab something like Audacity and merge them together to make one long MP3?

Overheal

but thats work...

Also, the video for Waiting For The End is trippy cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q

The Catalyst was less thrilling... for this I'll stick to my own sketchbook and conjured imaginations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51iquRYKPbs

Malice

Overheal wrote: »

but thats work...

Well assuming you don't want to give money to Apple or pirate the long version you haven't got many other options.